Originally posted by The Shrike
reply to post by N3V3RM1ND
Not so. What you call facts and evidence are lacking in facts and evidence. Just because someone claims something, without presenting irrefutable
evidence to support the claims, does not make it so. He's been exposed here on many threads.
Precisely. In 2001 we got a massive selection of substantial claims and select bunch of witnesses all claiming various types of evidence. Yet 9 years
on we're continually asked to fund his touring and pay for the evidence by ways of DVD purchase
I'd just like to explain my stance on this, if theres a legitimate reason why the evidence cannot be presented to us on the disclosure project
website for free then what is this reason?
He proclaims the government know about 0 point energy and are controlling the masses to force us into using fuels and systems we dont NO longer need.
Yet he's guilty of using these same methods against the masses for funding?
Someone commented earlier on in this thread something like:
"If anyone else appeared online claiming to have all this evidence and failed to back it up they'd be labelled a hoax"
Sure, I can accept it sounds a little wild, but its not so far from the truth is it? I mean Greer has done well to start the project and by collating
a huge group of key witnesses willing to stand in court to back up their claims with solid evidence and facts. But where is this evidence? Why do we
have to pay to see it? Isn't he guilty himself of charging us for this? Then using the aircraft the government supplies him with to fly round the
world to these conferences in?
You have to understand I am not against what Steven Greer is proposing or started out, I think its great if someone wants maximum coverage for
something like this but I DO question his methods. A Great Deal. I cant see any reason why he couldn't provide us with this information online.
What if a secret agency caught this site releasing irrefuteable evidence? They'd close it down? Why do that? if the guy is using their aircraft to
fly round the world wouldnt it be easier to make an aircraft accident out of the whole team and a select group of whistleblowers to take out?
Maybe: there is something I'm missing here that I've not seen and theres a completely legitimate reason for him charging $20 per dvd. (if there is
please do respond and point it out to me as its not obvious).
I recently noticed that an exopolitics show is showing in Leeds, UK very soon. I think Steve Bassett is due to turn up there and do a talk. Upon
checking online I found the price per head to be about £100
If I paid to go to one of these conferences what would I get? by the sounds of what Jritzmann said earlier on i'd get nothing more than insubstantial
claims and 0 evidence... to back any of it up.
So for now from the outside looking in. In my own assessment I'm a truth seeker with plenty of questions and no answers. The two agencies that seem
to hold the answers are with holding information, for whatever reasons maybe its their own agendas preventing them from releasing this information. I
have to now question the whole agenda, because it seems that chasing the disclosure project and chasing these other ventures lobbying for money to
spread the word, seems a huge DECOY to sway us away from chasing the real issue. It seems that by the time the public do actually wake up and get wise
to whats going on, whatever it was the government were hiding they've already covered up.
This year i've been willing to scrimp and save my money to afford a really good retail videocamera which cost over £300. I find cash hard to come by
and cant justify spending £100 to attend a conference where I wont get any closer to the answers I do seek, especially when these said witnesses on
the promotional video back in 2001 claimed that we only have to ''look up on a clear night'' and we'll see it for ourselves.
Now finally I'd like to make a public request. If you have a disclosure Project dvd and have purchased it, does this show the evidence? If not, what
does it show? I've heard that the DVD costs $20.00 Is it worth the Outlay? I'd of thought at this price per head, non-counting all the conferences
they attend their certainly not starving or malnurished are they?
Please dont get angry or smart in replying, I know its tempting but I just want real answers to the questions I'm asking and I'm asking them in the
honest manner of someone from the outside looking in.