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Wesley Snipes to Serve 3 Years

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posted on Apr, 25 2008 @ 08:03 PM
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This is a gross and disgusting miscarriage of justice. If you think the cops are bad, their masters, the judges, are even worse. What can you expect when lawyers are put in control of law.




posted on Apr, 25 2008 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555

Originally posted by Solarskye

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
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Interesting how people scream and yell about the Constitution until they find a part they don't like. Thanks for posting that, I was going to look it up.

The Constitution is the law, is it not? Congress has the power, granted by this Amendment, it is therefore lawful.


The fruits of your labor are not Income, It's and equal exchange, If i ask you to do a job, and we agree that I will pay you $100 to do that job, then you did $100 worth of work, If when all is said and done, And I'm really happy with the work you have done and I give you a bonus on top of our equal exchange, say $20, That $20 is Income and can be taxed, it was not part of our equal exchange, You never earned it, it was a gain and a profit, aka Income

Look at the tax code,


§ 61. Gross income defined
How Current is This?
(a) General definition
Except as otherwise provided in this subtitle, gross income means all income from whatever source derived, including (but not limited to) the following items:
(1) Compensation for services, including fees, commissions, fringe benefits, and similar items;
(2) Gross income derived from business;
(3) Gains derived from dealings in property;
(4) Interest;
(5) Rents;
(6) Royalties;
(7) Dividends;
(8) Alimony and separate maintenance payments;
(9) Annuities;
(10) Income from life insurance and endowment contracts;
(11) Pensions;
(12) Income from discharge of indebtedness;
(13) Distributive share of partnership gross income;
(14) Income in respect of a decedent; and
(15) Income from an interest in an estate or trust.



They are all blatant gains and profits, Not equal exchanges, yes including the first on that list, Its listed because profits can be derived from an equal exchange, but the exchange itself is not a gain or a profit...

even the Supreme Court rulings on it o not elaborate on the subject it simply repeat the above, which is correct...

From whatever source derived is just that, Gains and profits can be derived form various sources, But it still doesn't change the fact that and Equal Exchange is not a gain or a profit, it's not Income

The tax code is nothing but a scam using trick wording.

[edit on 25-4-2008 by C0le]



posted on Apr, 25 2008 @ 09:05 PM
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He didn't pay MILLIONS in taxes.
Six months ago he claimed the IRS was after him because he was black.
That didn't fly.
Day-walker will be doing time.


He uses the roads that taxes pay for.
He uses the services that taxes pay for.
He is living in freedom that our taxes pay for (the military).
etc etc

Pay the taxes or stop using the roads, the bridges, the free public schooling. Pay the taxes or stop eating the food that the FDA checks out (payed by your taxes). Pay the taxes or stop drinking the water, and don't ever ride on an airplane (that federal inspectors checked out). Pay the taxes or never read another science book that NASA put information into. Oh .. and give up your microwave oven and your velcro - those came from the space program that your taxes paid for as well.

(spandex did too - but perhaps we can do without that!
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[edit on 4/25/2008 by FlyersFan]



posted on Apr, 25 2008 @ 09:13 PM
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We are not living in mid evil times and now days income is income whether you get it from child support or a job or disability it's income.

Income, refers to consumption opportunity gained by an entity within a specified time frame, which is generally expressed in monetary terms.[1] Usage of the term may, however, be somewhat ambiguous. For households and individuals, "income is the sum of all the wages, salaries, profits, interests payments, rents and other forms of earnings received... in a given period of time."[2] For firms, income generally refers to net-profit: what remains of revenue after expenses have been subtracted.[3] In the field of public economics, it may refer to the accumulation of both monetary and non-monetary consumption ability, the former being used as a proxy for total income.
Source



[edit on 4/25/2008 by Solarskye]



posted on Apr, 25 2008 @ 10:37 PM
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Wiki?


How about SCOTUS rulings...


BOWERS v. KERBAUGH-EMPIRE CO., 271 U.S. 170 (1926)
After full consideration, this court declared that income may be defined as gain derived from capital, from labor, or from both combined, including profit gained through sale or conversion of capital.


Gains and profits, are Income
Income can be derived from the product of labor, As can it come from whatever source derived, but labor is not Income

An equal exchange is not a gain or a profit.



posted on Apr, 25 2008 @ 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
He uses the roads that taxes pay for.

Indirect Taxes pay for this.


He uses the services that taxes pay for.

Indirect Taxes pay for this.


He is living in freedom that our taxes pay for (the military).
etc etc

Taxes don't pay for freedom, freedom is unalienable, The military hasn't fought for freedom since the Revolution, The last foreign threat to the rights the Constitution is supposed to protect was Great Britain.
The only threat to those rights currently are all domestic, The majority of which are located in Washington D.C.

And last time I checked, The military that supposedly protects freedom, turned a blind eye to that oath on August 29, 2005 when they helped disarm the Citizens of New Orleans.

These are the Domestic enemies our founders warned us about, They pose a threat to the freedoms and liberties protected by the Constitution, Arabs with box cutters don't have a vote in Washington, nor do they control our Military.


Pay the taxes or stop using the roads, the bridges,

If you purchase Gasoline to fuel your car, you do pay the taxes which make these things possible, I'm quite sure Snipes owns several cars and fuels them therefor paying for what he uses, through Indirect Taxes
I'm sure hes also been through a Toll or two in his lifetime, which also pays for said roads and bridges...


the free public schooling.

I don't agree with this particular Tax, but your property taxes pay for the Free? public schooling...
along with various other local infrastructure.


Pay the taxes or stop eating the food that the FDA checks out (payed by your taxes).

We all pay a sales tax on said food. This tax pays for various things within your state.


Pay the taxes or stop drinking the water,

I'm sure snipes has running water which last time I checked involves a monthly bill. If hes real tricky maybe he buys bottled water which last time I checked also involves a Sales Tax


and don't ever ride on an airplane (that federal inspectors checked out).

Airlines pay taxes, tickets cost money and oh yeah a nice little Tax comes along with each purchase....



Pay the taxes or never read another science book that NASA put information into.

Said books are paid for by local taxes....


Oh .. and give up your microwave oven

It was invented by Dr. Percy LeBaron Spencer of the Raytheon Corporation.


and your velcro - those came from the space program that your taxes paid for as well.


No they came from the mind and hard work of Swiss engineer Georges de Mestral.


(spandex did too -

No it was invented by DuPont chemist Joseph Shivers.

[edit on 26-4-2008 by C0le]



posted on Apr, 25 2008 @ 11:37 PM
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I gotta say, a lot of you get it. I'm very impressed. The trick to taxing is to muddle the definition of income and profit. Examine how those corporations, who's prime function is to 'profit' pay proportionally less taxes than individuals who have virtually NO profit to speak of. Explain that one in constitutional terms to the naysayers. Watch em fizz.



posted on Apr, 25 2008 @ 11:53 PM
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Wow. Fine post. I'd applaud it if I had the power.

In case people aren't aware, where do the direct taxes go?



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by Sublime620
reply to post by C0le
 


Wow. Fine post. I'd applaud it if I had the power.

In case people aren't aware, where do the direct taxes go?


The Direct Federal Income Taxes pay for The interest that comes attached to every dollar our Government borrows from the Federal Reserve Central Bank.

Its a huge debt that comes as a result of overspending, and giving the power to issue and regulate money to a Private Corporation.

The Federal Reserve loans our Government, Federal Reserve Notes (at interest) Meaning for every dollar they loan us in notes comes a certain percentage of debt attached to it, This interest can never be paid back, EVER, it never existed, Meaning when we pay back what they loaned us in actual notes, that interest is still floating around in never land, we cant pay back something that never existed in the first place, its an endless debt and people are to damn stupid to realize this...

We are in the servitude of a Private Corporation, and we have no choice in the matter, this system serves only one purpose, To make us dependent on it.

Those who hold the real power in this country don't want independent citizens they want us to be dependent upon them, when we need something, they want to be the answer to those needs, at a cost of course, We are forced into this dependency through threat of jail or death and loss of liberty, They've got us by the balls.



[edit on 26-4-2008 by C0le]



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 12:20 AM
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Seconded.

Sutherland got a month over christmas behind bars for being drunk behind the wheels, and Snipes gets three years for tax evasion?

Quite a serious problem, the American legal system has - if it is willing to give a man a prison sentence for dodging his taxes, something which doesn't exactly cause suffering to others (oh, okay - maybe it causes fractional suffering), while it gives a man a month and a half of jail-time when he was commandeering a vehicle that could kill dozens if the accident was bad enough.

*cough* hypocrisy *cough*



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 04:00 AM
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reply to post by C0le
 



Originally posted by C0leTaxes don't pay for freedom, freedom is unalienable, The military hasn't fought for freedom since the Revolution, The last foreign threat to the rights the Constitution is supposed to protect was Great Britain.
The only threat to those rights currently are all domestic, The majority of which are located in Washington D.C.


And I'd like to add the fine point that the President of the United States is not sworn to protect the American people, as our current President is fond of saying over and over again, thereby misinforming and brainwashing the inattentive masses. The President of the the United States is sworn to protect The US Constitution.

@ C0le

Bravo, man! Thanks for eschewing the emotional rhetoric and laying out the cold hard facts.



@ Maxmars

Bravo for your contributions as well.






[edit on 26-4-2008 by Areal51]



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 04:06 AM
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Wesley needs to take it like the man who didn't pay up!
 

Mod edit: Please Stay On Topic.



[edit on 26/4/2008 by watch_the_rocks]



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 04:41 AM
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Just to clarify: It wasn't for tax evasion or tax fraud. Those are felonies. Snipes was acquitted of those charges. He gets to serve time for failing to file a tax return on three separate occasions. A misdemeanor charge for each instance.









[edit on 26-4-2008 by Areal51]



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 04:55 AM
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Originally posted by space cadet
Wesley needs to take it like the man who didn't pay up! [snip]


Spewing this derogatory and useless tripe pleases you?


Please, explain to the board how this is on-topic.

[edit on 27/4/2008 by watch_the_rocks]



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 06:41 AM
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While I think Snipes got a bad rap, and was made into a exp.

I still can't help but think that it would not be fair to us, for Snipes to get away with tax evasion. While citizen John Doe would go to to jail for tax evasion.

Still I think the tax income laws needs to simplified, and taxed fairly over all income spectrum's. (Regardless of Wealth, status, or Race.)



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 06:48 AM
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How is this Breaking Alternative News. This was MSM fodder. He owed 21mill, he only paid 5, he does the time.....he comes out.....he makes a movie about it. Blade VS IRS blood suckers.....he makes another 20 mill.



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 07:13 AM
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He is said to have used fringe arguments common to "tax protesters" who say the government has no legal right to collect. I wonder if it went down anything like this:

WESLEY SNIPES, please approach the bench.

That's not my name your honor. My name is spelled, capital W, lowercase e-s-l-e-y, capital S, lowercase n-i-p-e-s.

I'm a flesh and blood man! I refuse to approach the bench! You have no Jurisdiction over me. I know that is a martime flag, I see the yellow fringes! I am not at sea! I never made any income because all the money I made was exchange for my work and time. I don't owe the government anything because I am a Citizen of my State, and not to the Federal Zip code overlay! The IRS isn't even the government - they are the FEDs bulldog! Your honor, the FED is not a government agency! It is a privately run bank, just look in the phonebook for evidence! How I'm 'sposed to pay you anyway? Federal Reserve notes are unconstitutional just like the FED and IRS! You HAVE TO UNDERSTAND!!!



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 11:26 AM
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Oh, so he's serving time for not doing anything wrong against his fellow man whatsoever.

I thought lady justice was there to protect and serve, not hinder and extort.



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 01:38 PM
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It should be noted that though I don't support hight taxes I would not object to to raise certain indirect taxes a small ammount, Taxes such as Property Tax or Motor Vehicle Taxes, And the Income Tax, All of these types of direct Taxation on your property are wrong, They don't allow one to remain free and left alone if they so choose to be, Indirect Taxes are Freedom, If you don't like the system you simply don't buy into it, its your choice, And this type of taxation will still fund America as it is now, It will simply allow those who wish to remain truly free, the freedom to do so without the threat of losing their property and freedom.



posted on Apr, 26 2008 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by LLoyd45
Wesley Snipes is a great actor, but he's made millions and should pay his fair share of taxes like everyone else, or at least get a lawyer smart enough to get him off.


He's not the only celebrity that the IRS has gone after either. Willie Nelson has come under attack by the IRS as well as the comedy team of Abbott & Costello in the 50's who both died broke.

I wonder if they'll sell off Wesley Snipes private assets at public auction too..

[edit on 4/25/08 by LLoyd45]




The fair share on the wages you get in exchange for your labor/talent/services/time, comes to exactly ZERO.

FOR ALL OF US.

When you work for a living, you exchange your time and labor for money. This is not "income" because you're giving something in return. It is not profit.

According to the constitution, the only "income" the government is allowed to tax are corporate profits.

If exchanges were considered income, if I trade you an apple for an orange, you and I both owe part of that fruit to the IRS.

Your labor is your property. The government "taxing" your labor is merely a clever new label for an ages-old theme: SLAVERY.


"Our federal tax system is, in short, utterly impossible, utterly unjust and completely counterproductive. It reeks with injustice and is fundamentally un-American. It has earned a rebellion and it's time we rebelled." - President Ronald Reagan, May 1983, Williamsburg, VA

"Our Income Tax system is a disgrace to the human race." - Jimmy Carter, 1976

"I don't like the income tax. Every time we talk about these taxes we get around to the idea of 'from each according to his capacity and to each according to his needs'. That's socialism. It's written into the Communist Manifesto. Maybe we ought to see that every person who gets a tax return receives a copy of the Communist Manifesto with it so he can see what's happening to him." - T.Coleman Andrews, IRS Commissioner, May 25, 1956 in US. News & World Report

"Fear is the key element for the IRS in achieving its mission. Without fear, the IRS would have a difficult time maintaining our so-called system of voluntary compliance. Given the opportunity, the IRS will take the easy way out and grab whatever it can. The IRS does not really care about you and what your future may be." - Santo Presti, former IRS Criminal Investigation Agent and author of "IRS In Action"

"If the basis of taxation is paying your fair share, then I think we would want to exempt the families of people who have lost loved ones in war from ever having to pay any other tax."

"If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, and give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; And the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they do now, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains around the necks of our fellow sufferers; And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for a second, that second for a third, and so on 'til the bulk of the society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering. And the forehorse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train, wretchedness and oppression." - Thomas Jefferson

"The IRS is an extraordinary example of the end justifying the means. The means of this agency is growth. It is interesting that the revenue officers within the IRS refer to taxpayers as 'inventory'. The IRS embodies the political realities of the selfish human desire to dominate others. Thus the end of this gigantic pretense of officialdom is power, pure and simple. The meek may inherit the earth, but they will never receive a promotion in an agency where efficiency is measured by the number of seizures of taxpayers' property and by the number of citizens and businesses driven into bankruptcy." - George Hansen, Congressman and author of "To Harass Our People"

"The agency that is so strict on the way Americans keep their books cannot even pass its own financial audit". - Ted Stevens, Republican Senator from Alaska

"Through ignorance, but moreover, because of apathy, a small, but wealthy, clique of power brokers have robbed us of our Rights and Liberties, and we are being raped of our wealth. We are paying the price for the near-comatose levels of complacency by our parents, and only God knows what might become of our children, should we not work diligently to shake this country from its slumber! Many a nation has lost its freedom at the end of a gun barrel, but here in America, we just decided to hand it over voluntarily. Worse yet, we paid for the tyranny and usurpation out of our own pockets with "voluntary" tax contributions and the use of a debt-laden fiat currency!" - Peter Kershaw, author "Economic Solutions"



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