Angel of Light:

Please dont be so hard. I have read your prophecies and you're not 100% up there with accuracy either.

I'm not trying to put you down and you know i frequent your threads and you do have some accuracy, but not so that you can actually drop in here and imply this is all junk.

What if they come tomorrow? Or next week? Or in 10 years?

Thank you for understanding.

Hi,

I dont want to be hard with Pagani, I am only requesting to dont let the things unaffronted, to dont remain in silence since that could the worst mistake that he can do. ( I am assumed that is a guy but perdon me if that is not the case)

In all my previous posts on this thread probably I was one of the few members that was still giving to this person the benefit of the doubt, requesting more information, requesting to share more details about what was going to happend since with the elements that we had at hand everything looked as this was not going to occur. .

If something appear tomorrow or after tomorrow well that would be precisely the possible explanation that Pagani must try to give about what happend, any way is better to say something than to don't say nothing.

So if Pagani needs somebody that open the possibility about a dialog here I am the first one that will be happy to have it, I am not condeming anybody, even I left open the door to have tomorrow some photos or something that this person can show about this event.

The only option that is unacceptable here is to ignore the public, to ignore the people that were waiting in BTS. It is precisely since I know what is to have a prediction that remains unaccomplished for a while and how difficult is to go ahead in that situation, that I am suggesting or advicing him to affront it what ever is the situation instead to ignore it.

Of course I am completly agree with you dgTempe that also the people here must wait patiently for that explanation.

thanks,
your friend,
The Angel of lightness

The Angel of lightness posted on 5/5/2008 @ 01:37 PM

Yes the entries to this thread are by present many, more than usually occur in the forum but are all really product of your credibility ? or perhaps product of how unbelievable looks your post or how terrible could be the consequences if you fail in your prediction???
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By the way, your personal data in the BTS profile says you are located in P.R, is that Puerto Rico? is that means that is over the island that your supposed alien fleet is going to be visible? Please answer precisely these questions.

[edit on 5/17/2008 by The angel of light]

Angel of light,

I am sorry that you are so confused and lost and you seem to have misconstrued your definitions and misplaced your thesaurus and truthionary.

You see, you seem to have confused the words "psychic predictions" with possibilities and probablities induced through "logical -ductions".

I pray hopelessly with the ignorance of desparity and the uselessness of prayer that those so less fortunate to understand your lost mind and ostentatious stature, will, by the grace of some universal synchronicity, not fall into the hands of your deceptions.

Lol, I think this is the real thing... not! LMFAO

Don't try to wimper it off in any other way. What I explained is exactly what you do plus a bit of guess work, exactly what I said.

What you are looking for are fools to follow you.

What I am looking for are geniuses, people who want to be able to predict things through science, spot on.

Earthquakes happen often... why don't you get a graph and show us? I'd do it, but my time is truthfully a bit more vauluable than to be playing these immature games.

My aunt is a "psychic"... ok... I've watched her do her thing for a long time now... she manipulates people and I confronted her and that's why we don't have a good relationship anymore. She insults me by telling me that she talks to my dead Grandma. Lights candles and turns the lights off and claims that Satan is running through the house and she needs to outcast the evil spirit...

You people have a got a screw loose.

Do you know why you call yourself an Angel of Light? Because of religion and nothing else.

Through science and logic you are not quite what you say you are.

For you to be an Angel of light, first of all you'd have to come from "Heaven." Second of all, I don't feel like typing it all, but add all other religious contexts dealing with Angels and their doings and servitude.

You're speaking in metaphors. Stop this. You make the dark something bad and the light something good. It's nothing like this. Everything gives everything purpose and is just as important as anything else. The dark reveals the light and the light reveals the dark. So really, without the dark, you would not be known and you would be stranded with nothing to contrast against to experience this mock religious battle of yours. Appreciate the dark. It is what makes you what you are.

Your body on the other hand is not made up of photons. At one time that energy was photovoltaic, photonic, etc., but not now. Now you are in a material state. Your body does however contain electrodes, electrons, cahtodes, anodes, and etc. These electric bonds and complexes are capable of giving off light. Though in a dark room you will not shine unless there is an interacting between your body and some other force, be it mechanical et al. Under the scope of night vision, on the contraire, we could see the heat being given off by your body. These things are all interrelated and interdependent. Heat/light/electricity.

But this goes for all of our bodies, so if you are saying that you are an "Angel of light" in this way, then it makes you no more special than the rest of us and reveals that what you are doing is motivated by something deep rooted in feel good pretentious fantasy.

Originally posted by The angel of light
Hi,
My position with respect to your reply remains exactly the same, so don't waste yourself adding more verbosity to this discussion, I know you are very well skilled to find exquisite words to argue about almost everything in this life and the other.

I will waste myself however I feel necessary. You are not my dictator.
I don't use words to argue with, I use words to expose truth and the words use me. I don't like to argue, most of the time I don't have to. The logical truth is simply undeniable when it's placed visibly and mentally in front of you.

Now if the point is that you don't like that being a Scientist I am also working for God,

That is not the point, nor do I consider you a scientist. You are not objective, you are subjective. You're thusly confused.

You're really just working for Satan, doing exactly as he wants you to do, to deny him and to therefore create war and the illusion of division.

If you are working for God then embrace all things and all beings, including those that you have outcasted; forgiveness. Otherwise you are feeding this imperdurable religious battle.

Well sorry but that is my friend your problem,

No, it is all of our problems. You are trying to fix it though with the same old tricks that got us stuck in this mentality to being with. Us vs. them. It's not us vs. them. It's not us vs. anything. In your case you say you are working for Good, then here is what Good says: embrace the experience, accept everyone and everything. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you; treat others as they would like to be treated.

If we are all doing unto each other what we would like done unto us then essentially the rule is to treat others as they would like to be treated. Let's not forget this. This is what Good says.

I am not going to renounce to my career or to the mission that I have only because somebody that is comming from the middle of the darkness does not like or is unable to understand it.

Your carreer is hardly scientifically reputable. That is not my opinion, that is a hardlined fact.

You and your darkness, here you go with your screw loose again. Make me your enemy why don't you? You are completely lost. You don't understand yourself. You're projecting your own feelings.

For the rest of your comment I suggest you to look for a good Therapeutae that can help you in that trauma that you have with your psychic Aunt, that is something that as far as I can perceive here, you need strongly to surpass completely to see again that forgive is also light, that light is God and the rest is only darkness.

I don't need therapy for it. She needs help, and so do you. I'm strong. I need neither an invisible diety nor a therapist. I think seeing someone yourself might not be a bad idea though, since we're throwing around psychotic suggestions.

No, I'm pretty sure according to your religion God is omnipresent, therefore God is in the dark as well.

I am so sorry but I am so busy now with more predictions and some pending important calculations that I sincerely cannot pay more atention to your argumentation, even your word games make up them impressively.

You're just scared to continue this because I'm going to reveal you for what you are and make you see yourself clearly for once. Word games? Like scrabble and word bridge? Why are your defenses going up? What word games? Huh?

By the way pls respect this thread, your inquiry does not have any relationship with the topic here discussed. So let us wait for the very important and expected response of Pagani, I mean his explanations
(since the video he has already posted is a Joke of course), well if he was not playing all the time with us on this thread!!

Yeah, you're attempting to uplay the importance of this thread and Pagani's response when we all know, including yourself that this was done in jest, so that you can subscript the value of my inquisitions toward your predictions and the input that you give and also the korky way that you sign on and off of all your letters regarding God and Light. As if you are on a pedestal.

your friend,

Not to be brash... but I don't consider us friends at this moment. Maybe in the future? I prefer my friends to be honest and have clearer minds. Friendship is something that is gained and earned through trust and time.

Your potential future friend,
D.O.D. Demon of the Darkness,
L.O.V.E.,
Satan bless you.

[edit on 18-5-2008 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]

Roper gets presents!

Hot Space Chicks that look like ( my beloved) Jessica, Hot damn!

Hurry back Pagani.


Roper

Originally posted by The angel of light
Hi,
This is with respect to the so insistent reply, I may say perhaps agressive to, of this person LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal.

You know who will tell me this 9 times out of 10? Someone that feels as if their superiority complex is being exposed to be nothing more than illogical egoism. These people are most usually religious zealots and/or delusional subjectivists. These people also tend to be very selfish and can't consider other people outside theirselves and their own belief structure. They also lack some sense of self reflection. You are making this evident.

So in reply; You've replied just as many times as I have now, so that makes you insistent as well... and in doing so, what isn't agressive about you? You ARE attempting to do the same things back to me! "Word plays, a perturbed mind of the darkness that must be outcasted and shown the light of God?" And now, "agressive and insistent replies"? Well, yeah... we're having a conversation, but thanks for attempting to invert the character of the conversation into one that plays you as the victim... typical religious response, especially Christian. When your illogicalities and your deceptive ways come under scientific and logical scrutiny you play the sympathy card and the victim card because you know to engage in an actual interchange of factual information your foundation would fall apart. You are nothing more than an emotional appeaser. You pull the emotions of puppets that lack the logic, as do you, to see any real sense to matters. Unfortunately you can not do this to me so you attempt to pull my emotional strings by playing the victim, and also try to pull the emotional strings of any others strolling through. "Oh my God, poor Angel of Light, he's using logic on your religion and instilling truth into your 'psychic predictions'"?

I was enough clear that my participation in this thread has been all the time in reference to the supossed UFO flyover announced by Pagani and of course around my original claim that this...

No, it has to do with the way that you presented your claim that it was a fraud. You told us that you were in communications with the "higher great beyond!".

However, to dont look unpolite I only want to remark some few things concerning this person replies:

Well, I'm not here to be an emotionally pristine and enticing set of words. I'm here to get to the truth. Sometimes when the universal truth seemingly irrationally disobeys the constructs of a delusional 2000 year old religion and/or scientific compound of residual facts and interjects a paradigm of existential elucidity... it can come off as hostile: the reason that the church killed people for presenting the Earth as round and elipsis ad infinitum.

Well if somebody does not want to continue reading below I will understand it prefectly, since the lines above reveal the perturbed mind of somebody that is carrying on its back a terrible hate against the members of its same blood,

Woah, woah, woah buddy. Where did I say that I hate my Aunt (hint, no where, you're making it up to be attractive and make your case more flattering than it already isn't)? Here you go projecting again. The only thing close to hate, to speculate where your projection came from, is those that you "enlightened" (so to speak) psychic God specialists refer to and treat the "dark" being (ooo spooky music; sarcasm ) such as myself. Perturbed mind? Can you stop insulting me and making assumptions about how I feel toward my family, please. It would be the only logical thing to do. See, I embrace my darkness, and yours... even though you're too blind to see it because all you ever look at is the light. With all these assumptions about me and my family and how I hate my own blood, it'd appear that you poster... A.O.L., are the agressive and thus presumptuous one here. You see, the nature of the universe tells us that as sentient beings we can not be aggressive if we are not being presumptuous and assuming. Therefore we are always patient and getting to know one another.

an inner conflict that is projected to other people as soon as it finds any connection or similarity to a personal experience that it is clear it was never surpassed.

Well, your extrapolation is an invalid genus synopsis. I used this person and event as a point of reference. She is a member of my family and the events that have taken part between the two of us will inevitably be with me forever. So until the time that I die I am entitled to use my experiences as general references and they seem to function quite well, as exposed here.

In one sense it will never be surpassed because that is the way that she is and she is entitled to it. I embrace her ignorance, though I see transparently what she's up to. She doesn't like me to see these things, her entire reputation rests on deception.

I not assuring that this person is out of control

To make "light" of this and steal a line from good ol' gnarls Barkly, "ha ha ha, bless your soul, you really think you're in control?" None of us are in control, we're just actions and reactions of our environments, though some of us would be lead to delusionally believe that we have control. Am I out of control? As a unitro singular entity only considering the vessel of which I reside, yes...

but it is evident that has a terrible resentment against anything that smells to "psychic",

Resentment would hardly suffice. I don't like liars and I am especially not fond of manipulators.

something that does not look very objective, since this occurs even without knowing if the family experience on that line actually was a genuine psychic or only somebody pretending for.

There is no such thing as "genuine psychic". In fact you're contradicting your book right NOW. As the Bible states "there will be no more prophets". You are passing yourself off as not only a prophet that supposedly tells the future but as an Angel of some God that you are yet to understand yourself.

I suggest this person to open his mind and his heart to God,

Here you go again. In all its proselytic fashion. I suggest that you open your heart and your mind to me and that we all open our hearts and minds to each other. Since the God that you worship is clearly within me being that it is omnipresent.

to understand that perhaps it is prejudging something real based on only one isolated case that could be a fraud.

No, I have and continue to study these so called "psychics" such as yourself. Not only are they very selfish and egocentric, but they are unscientific, unobjective, think they are more special than their fellow Human Beings and allow for all of their mistakes and failed predictions to be a part of their phsychic philosophy. These people manipulate in a way that I obviously could and have actually done before, just to try it and I did actually convince someone that I was in fact psychic.

Moreover I perceive an additional resentment against religious values that can emerge from the same source of personal trauma.

It's called logic. As I stated before, we as sentient intellectual beings are able to construct mathematical concepts around ideas. When 1+1=3 in a system of 1+1=2, then something's not adding up and quite clearly the equation is incorrect.

[edit on 19-5-2008 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]

You make the dark something bad and the light something good. It's nothing like this. Everything gives everything purpose and is just as important as anything else. The dark reveals the light and the light reveals the dark. So really, without the dark, you would not be known and you would be stranded with nothing to contrast against to experience this mock religious battle of yours

This is obviously true and anyone who doesn't agree is brainwashed.

You're really just working for Satan, doing exactly as he wants you to do, to deny him and to therefore create war and the illusion of division.

Again! this is true as well, and anyone that doesn't agree doesn't understand Human psychology and how it interacts with the universe.

If you are working for God then embrace all things and all beings, including those that you have outcasted; forgiveness. Otherwise you are feeding this imperdurable religious battle.

This is obviously logically true as well.

It's not us vs. anything. In your case you say you are working for Good, then here is what Good says: embrace the experience, accept everyone and everything. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you; treat others as they would like to be treated.

This is obviously logically true as well.

No, I'm pretty sure according to your religion God is omnipresent, therefore God is in the dark as well.

This is also a universal truth. No where have I seen you use any form of logic to dissect the above statements. You know why? Because if you did you'd find that they are true. They are still open for you to reply to, but I think you're afraid to change and so you are only ignoring the facts that they present in reference to your religion and your God.

Well, according with this so strange new Theology everybody must have lighted in house one candle to God and other to the Evil in the same Altar to be well accompased in life!!!!

Sure, the ackowledgement of both universal forces, and also a third representing the neutrality of Humanity in the aftermath of accepting one another for who we are, even our logical faults. Do we worship evil? No. Do we worship "good"? No. We worship neither, rather we acknowledge both. We are the third candle soto speak, in reference to your kindle analaysis. We are created in the image of the universe, that which is both good and evil. We can not deny this. This is fact.

That is the most absurd and anti-Christian reflexion that somebody can do,

Well, you are yet to show why, you're just saying things.

admissible maybe for the followers of Satanism, Voodoo, Macumba or Santeria, but not in reference to the trully will & characteristics of the only Omnipotent living God,

Then if God is omnipotent God can be in the dark and embrace all beings and all things that God has created. If God is omnipresent, then by default of his presence being eternally everywhere, the above statement is also true. So God is both the light and the dark because God is omnipresent, that is.. unless God denies God's self. I don't find that very Godly, I find that a projection of yourself because it is exactly what you are doing.

again the result of a perturbed mind.

You're insulting me again with flat out lies and defensive mechanisms and not using any logic to refute my factual statements, only attacking my character because you feel as if your religious foundation is being stifled, and it is... but I am only opening you to what you dont understand about it, not taking you away from it.

2) I must not descend of my pedestal of a serious member of BTS and reputed psychic to follow the no sense argumentation

When you can show any of this, then I'll defer. You are yet to show my non-sense and you are yet to show that you are higher than any of us and that you are a psychic. You have shown, however, that you fail to recognize basic logic and that you are blindly faithful.

of a people that are needed therapy but refuse to go a professional to receive the treatment they need and in that illness believe that the rest of the world is the one that is thinking wrongly.

As I said before: I do not need a therapist nor do I need professional help. I am the professional. I am strong and my mind does not need to be told anything other than what it can truthfully decipher and it will listen to and obey the flawless logic and science of others. Not what you are doing. I don't merely think the rest of the world is thinking wrongly, as far as religions are concerned and the faulty logic is bestows upon people... I KNOW it... AND, I can PROVE it. You're just yet to use any yourself, making my statements an axiom.

I will no longer give more importance to this person and his so unusual posts and return to my thread,

Again, what is so unusual? If you're going to make claims, at least prove them. I find you, A.o.L. to be rather unusual, illogical, and manipulative. That I have proven. You just dodge any logic that I present because it obstructs your blind faith.

I send to it the blessing of God that is the only trully light of the world, that neutralizes its satanic blessing sent to me in its last reply, the last action of a totally disturbed mind that does not understand the message of Christ.

Oh, I understand the message of Christ. You're making assumptions again. We haven't even talked about Christ yet, how can you tell me this? You can't. Would Christ be acting like you?

About to continue in this thread of Pagani, it is clear that is lose of time & it would make a favor to somebody else that is not working seriously at all in its posts here , as I predicted on my post of May 3th in my own thread of Close contacts with the great bejond:

Well, here you go again... market yourself psychic. Tell the great beyond that they need a new ambassador.

This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you:
God is light,
in him there is no darkness at all.

Well, then he's not omnipresent and he is not omnipotent. He's not capable of having darkness. Not the God that I know nor the universe that I live in.

If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and we do not live with the truth.

Um, nope. See above. You're the one lying AND manipulating, as you're attempting to do again here.

But if we walk in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his son purify us of all sin.
St John Letter 1,5-7

Right, so I ask you. Imagine a place where there is only light. You are blinded, you can not see. You have no contrast. Re-read the first quote on this post, it will make more sense to you. Without the evil and the darkness that you say I am, you would have no purpose on this planet and you'd be preaching a bunch of sheep who know nothing about evil or darkness because it wouldn't exist.

[edit on 19-5-2008 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]

O.k....................NO FLY OVER!!!!!!!!! And I even wait through the weekend before I sling a name your way. So I now am going to call the originator of this thread a hoaxer!!!!! Point blank if the Admins won't say it I will this is excatly what make ATS struggle to be taken serious.....This crap sets ATS back 10 steps for every step that is put forward.