Originally posted by OWoutcast

I don't believe the fight between ID and evolution should be over who is right or wrong. The fight should be over proving that the current
scientific method being used should not have set rules as it does. It limits science to a set agenda that states something that follows these set
rules has to be true.

First, I'd like to say very good post and you have exposed a very real problem, a rumor or myth of sorts I see more Atheists using all the time and I
agree it is time to kick that silly misunderstanding about the so called scientific method to the sewer where it came from.
It really doesn't have set rules, in fact the Scientific Method is somewhat of an urban legend in the Atheist Science community.

Albert Einstein argued that conflicts between science and religion "have all sprung from fatal errors." However "even though the realms of
religion and science in themselves are clearly marked off from each other" there are "strong reciprocal relationships and dependencies"...
"science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind ...a legitimate conflict between science and religion cannot exist." However he
makes it clear that he does not believe in a personal God, and suggests that "neither the rule of human nor Divine Will exists as an independent
cause of natural events. To be sure, the doctrine of a personal God interfering with natural events could never be refuted...by science, for [it] can
always take refuge in those domains in which scientific knowledge has not yet been able to set foot."
en.wikipedia.org...
Now see the problem isn't so much with Scientists as it is with Atheists all thinking they are Scientist or as they like to pat themselves on the
head, the "Science Community"

Like the Video above, they can't hang with creationists.
Here are some additional links that you can read to affirm your suspicions regarding the materialist fables about the myth called the Scientific
Method and why it is obsolete, antiquated, archaic and utterly useless in many cases. Hell if Darwinists actually applied the damn thing to macro
evolution, it would have been a dead theory long ago. They only claim it does but we know how that works and there is no way possible to test it.
www.detectingdesign.com...
www.detectingdesign.com...
As we have seen so many times before and continues to be taught to our kids, the ever lying illusion of evolution
Currently you can read "stuff" like this in our public schools text books and they are all LIES!
Darwin’s finches These do not support evolution in the way the text book says they do From bacteria to humans. They are an example of natural
selection but that does not generate any new genetic information needed for macro evolution to work.
Save it Horza, I ain't buying your slippery semantics after seeing them destroyed and exploited for the gimmicks they are by JPHISH.
The giraffe’s neck no fossil evidence and no plausible mechanism
Natural selection only goes the wrong way for evolution. It only sorts and removes genetic information that’s already there
(to this day Dawkins is "stumped" )
Peppered moths Even if the experiments were not intentional hoax's perpetrated to prove evolution,, they would only demonstrate natural selection,
and that is not evolution.
Again, speciation is not evolution new biological species form without any new genetic information. Speciation won’t turn bacteria to man. Props
goes out to JPHISH for explaining this better than anyone I have ever known here on ATS. Part of the reason he is a better teacher, is that he uses a
language that is pure and without obfuscated semantics intentionally used by the wordsmiths of Atheist's.
Miller-Urey experiment Despicable! Repugnant act of fraud! Plane and simple ! They used the wrong atmosphere, produced the wrong chemicals, and did
not produce anything even closely resembling life yet students are told that life got started via natural processes and the truth is,, they haven't
the foggiest idea, NONE, NOTTA , No way No How yet they have the unmitigated audacity to mock creationists saying "Godidit". I have kind of like the
new phrase and think Christians should embrace the "Godidit" idea as we did the Big Bang when that was used to make fun of us and we adopted it as a
term of endearment .
There are no examples of transitional forms for which one could make a airtight case. Those they do have are all disputable at best. They say they
have a mountain of evidence but they have no mountain they have no truck load no ton of no nothing of the sort. SHOW ME and we'll see as most of them
so far I have found were fakes and / or very suspicious but nothing to write home about.
Embryos, This has long been abandoned as evidence for evolution. Haeckel’s drawings are blatantly fraudulent, just another scam we have had put
forth as manufactured evidence in a desperate attempt to keep Darwinian evolution from being falsified ( does the BS ever end?)
Well apparently not
Lucy Human eyes, hands and feet drawn onto an ape do make it look half ape and half human.
Australopithecine turns out to be another southern ape
Homo Habilis A jumble of human and ape fossils, now widely regarded as a hoax
Homo erectus ,, pffft it's us, plane and simple
Neanderthal like the geico cave men but now regarded as just like us.
Cro magnon the one that would drag woman by the hair to a cave somewhere with a club. Turns out,, he is just a man
Mungo man just a man
Hoax after Hoax after Hoax after Hoax after Hoax after Hoax after Hoax Hoax after Hoax after Hoax after Hoax after Hoax after Hoax after Hoax
Lie after Lie after Lie after Lie after Lie after Lie after Lie after Lie after Lie Lie after Lie after Lie after Lie after Lie after Lie after Lie
after Lie after Lie
No one knows how life could possibly have arisen by naturalistic processes, but the students are not told that

Stone Age’ people fully human
1. Microscopic analysis of the ‘Venus Figurines’, small hand-sized statues of women, said to be from ‘Stone Age’ cultures of central Europe,
has revealed impressions left behind on the clay from very finely woven fabric.
It seems that the clay statues were not naked (as portrayed in archaeology textbooks) but were actually adorned with intricately designed clothing.
The advanced sophisticated weaving technology possessed by these ‘Stone Age’ peoples has stunned archaeologists.
EXN.CA, , 9 February 2000.
Scientific American Discovering Archaeology, February 9, 2000.
2. Japanese archaeologists have discovered evidence of elaborate housing and sophisticated tools having been used by human ancestors labeled Homo
erectus, reputed to have lived 400,000 years ago.
Anthropologists are staggered to find that early humans were far more technologically sophisticated than they had earlier believed.
For these peoples to have crossed the Sea of Japan from mainland Asia would have required a high degree of communication skill and organization, as
well as sophisticated tools to make seaworthy craft.
What about all those living fossils?
Well Lets see what excuses for this Darwinists have
Bats?
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Still BATS!
MAN
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Still bipedal after thousands and thousands of years but not only that!
We have never seen anything like this when they say look in the mirror and see the transitional form.
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Nope, if evolution were true, you'd be seeing that.
Alligators = Gators
Sharks = sharks
Turtles = yep you guessed it and on and on and one the truth is out there all around you. You carry the seed of your kind.
what kind?
HUMAN KIND.
It is time to quit buying into the idea that this group who think they are the lobby for logic when as we see the logic is the language of liars.
What about putting our creationism in schools? Well the wedge was an idea that on the face of it all looks like they felt the need to do that but I
got a better Idea one that is taking off with success.
First read how Atheists have cleverly stolen our rightful place in Science using the rumored communist based ACLU
www.jeremiahproject.com...
Did you know that if evolution offends your religion than the same laws apply to that which do to our Christianity?
Complain that evolution OFFENDS your Religion at every opportunity. The connection to it and the religion of Atheism is already being examined and law
suits are started to kick that BUNK Pseudo Science OUT of our schools and quit brain washing our kids to talk like we came from McGilla Gorilla!
It is Time to take our Christianity and shove it down there necks like they say we have done so they will know the difference and leave them choking
on the dust of their own atheistic regrets they didn't leave well enough alone.
The madness that is Darwinian Evolution the tool of materialists, which gave rise to Nazi's eugenics and the connection to Darwinism's influence on
the U.S.'s own eugenics program was well under way and made a U.S supreme court ruling making it legal. . Germany adopted it after teaching
evolution in there schools and we all know what happened there. Where ever Science becomes the state religion of Darwinism,, untold MILLIONS DIE and
it makes the crusades look like a boy scout jamboree when the state of government is Atheist.
Stalin! Mao! Pol Pot! Hitler! the Kamir rouge, and spare me the silly belt buckle bunk with the word "god is with us" on Nazi uniforms as there
reason they weren't atheists. Until you stop using our coins that say in God We Trust, you haven't got a leg to stand on atheist.
What is it that makes this whole machine run? hehe look at the boards and it should tell you . Ill give you a subtle clue
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- Con
[edit on 8-7-2008 by Conspiriology]