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Originally posted by Reise Reise
Yikes! Remember folks, the Germans really really hate it when borders start changing.
It seems somebody in the EU has their own version of PNAC....
Originally posted by Charity
reply to post by Rapacity
Seems a bit rough that first generation immigrants can't vote in this referendum of yours.
The first wave of mass immigration to the UK was from the Caribbean in the late 1940's ... so someone who's lived here the best part of 60 years can't vote ? But they can work their guts out, pay taxes & raise a family here ...
And legally forced to vote ? Controversial ... what sanctions would you impose against those who can't be bothered ? And only 21 or over ? Disenfranchising 18-21 year olds is just soooo going to get them interested in the political system ...
I don't buy your sovereignty argument either. In England & Wales sovereignty is vested in Parliament and while they have the ability to pass an Act repealing our membership of the EU we've nothing to worry about. Sovereignty in Scotland is vested in the people ... we can vote ourselves anything we like if we could ever be arsed ...
Originally posted by stumason
The buggers got us in the end and it was the Labour Party that sailed us down the river. Those scumbags in power are even trying hand over fist to give Gibraltar to the Spanish and are even more keen to hand the Falklands over to the Argies.
This poll sums up the feeling amongst the English towards the whole mess Labour has caused. With the devolution of Welsh and Scottish powers but England getting no representation, alongside huge amounts of English tax money paying for free Welsh and Scottish prescriptions, University and council tax freezes, the animosity is growing:
Originally posted by Retseh
The British will doubtless bend over for this just as they bend over for every other liberty that has been taken away from them.
I wonder what the new national language will be, could make business trips a little more tricky, other than that, I could care less.
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