posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 01:02 PM
reply to post by FlyersFan
Maybe he did it and maybe he didn't. Again, I'm giving him leeway this time since I have a penchant for scratching my nose with my middle finger,
but I am in no way flipping the bird to someone when I do it. I doubt very seriously that I'll be voting for McCain, Clinton, or Obama -- so I have
no personal stake in defending any of them. I just think this whole story is getting blown up for no good reason.
Let's just assume for a moment that he did. So what? This has nothing to do with any legitimate issue facing our country. I guess I ultimately
don't understand its relevance. Perhaps Mrs. Clinton should watch her own handwork, since every gesture will mean something overseas.
This isn't the first hand gesture that any major leader has done. Bush caused quite a stir overseas flashing a very similar signal to the one that
Hillary is throwing in the image above. He's still POTUS. Bill Clinton flashed various gestures too. To digress a bit: the only remaining major
candidate that I have yet to see flash some stupid hand signal is McCain, but that certainly doesn't mean that I hold him in some higher regard as a
result. In the end, I'll place my vote based on a candidate's stance on the issues, not on what signals they may or may not be intentionally
You cannot definitively say what Obama's intentions were, FlyersFan, inasmuch as I cannot definitively say so either. Both of our opinions are
conjecture. Note that I stated clearly in my previous post that I was voicing an opinion. I think you're pushing it to say that he definitely did
it and knew what he was doing. Unless, of course, you've personally spoken with Obama and he has personally told you that he was flipping Hill-Rod
EDIT: I should clarify one point of my previous post that I left egregiously unexplained, and of which my word choice was terrible. Not the world's
best excuse, but I've been home sick lately and I've been slacking on choosing words carefully. When I said "Folks are really grasping at straws
here," what I should have said is: "The media is really reaching for a story here." It's obvious that there is evidence to support this debate --
his middle finger is definitely engaged. I did not mean for it to sound as if I was doubting the video or anything like that. I do doubt whether
there was any intent to engage that finger, and I do think the media could find something more apropos to talk about.
[edit on 22-4-2008 by teleonaut]