Are You Stockpiling Now? If so, what?

You have to pre soak dried beans. I use to do it when i hiked the AT in NC and Tennesse. I would soak my dinner beans first thing in the morning and I never had a problem and i was cooking them on a portable alcohol camp stove.

I am stock-piling everything I can get me hands on for my family. The only thing I have going for me personally though is...nothing but protection as I will more than likely be in Peru when the $#!% hits the fan due to a kung fu retreat.

reply to post by Rocambole

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You sound nuts. Like a cross between that kool-aid cult, Deliverance, and Charles Manson or something.

I hope, for the safety of everyone in your community, that the cops find you before some unwitting hiker lost in the woods/desert/wherever you live wanders into your yard and ends up dynamited to death.

It's one thing to have a few guns around for self defense, its another thing to be planning on blowing up roads and forming an army out of your family, which from the way you describe it seems to have no idea that you plan to haul them off into some valley and force them to leave their own families behind.

Folks, survivalism is about finding a way to survive and provide for yourself, NOT about eagerly awaiting the fall of society so that you can form your own mini-dictatorship in some remote countryside. Please, plan accordingly...


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Please attack the ball not the player.

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I have to agree that Water, Food, Medical Supplies and TP are 1000% more important than a large supply of guns and ammo.

Dont get me wrong, I sleep with a loaded Pistol tucked under the edge of the bed, and I occasionally carry a shotgun in the front seat of the Truck, ( Thats LEGAL in TEXAS Folks- And somtimes necessary in parts of Dallas ) but If I have to 'Empty' that pistol, its been a "really bad day", and someone will either now have MY pistol, or I'll have a new weapon 'dropped' just inside my doorstep. Kinda like a 'donation'

If it gets to a point where I'm havin' to go through 1000's of rounds to stay alive, ( even in a week ) its time for me to "scoot" and be the 'Rabbit in the Bunny Hole' for a while. Let everyone else go bonkers, and sleep off the winter.

I've come to the conclusion that I'm always going to be 'outgunned', but I wont be 'outsmarted' very easily.

Remember what 5 shot "BOLT action" rifles did in WWII? ( Audie Murphie The son of poor Texas sharecroppers )

They work just as good now.

Best Regards,

Blitzkreigen

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A gave ya a star for the call out. Some folks are over the edge from the start it seems. Good call.

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I would much rather have a tractor trailer full of TP than a boat load of other junk.

A very wise ATS user.

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I planted my first garden this year and was wondering if you could give me some tips on saving some of the seeds from this garden to use for my garden next year (such as drying or storing etc.). Also, what plants do you recommend for a fall garden? I would like to keep a continuous garden but expense keeps me from having a greenhouse. Any other suggestions you might feel useful will be appreciated.

If you want a greenhouse, consider this:

www.thefarm.org...

It looks incredibly cheap but similar instructions are everywhere on the internet so I'm guessing it works.

I've been going to Big Lots lately and stocking up on canned hams 1.5 lbs for 3.20 a can. Also they have cans of Olive and Canola oils for 3.50. Their corn flour and muffin mixes are only 1.00. Their cans of Chow Mein dinners are only 3.50 too.

I've been out of work for over 4 months now and everytime I scrape up some $$$ I go to the 99 cent store or Big Lots for cheap food.

reply to post by Anonymous ATS

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just keep an eye on the expiration date of those Big Lots and Dollar Store food items and rotate them in with your regular foods. No use stocking up if the stuff won't last long.

btw Big Lots is an excellent place for buying other "survival" type goods, tents, sleeping bags, oil lamps, and a variety of tools can be found there rather affordably. Dollar Stores are fine too, only thing is the quality of gadgets aren't always the best. But when funds are tight, it's best to be prepared than not all, so buy discount I do

Any survival thoughts include the basics, food, water, shelter, and a degree of personal protection.

As for huge stockpiles of ammunition, obviously only vivable in an area you intend to defend, more to the point will be enough for basic defence, and of course for those up to no good, they will be sniped, and their equipment confiscated. I suspect more than one moron will be wandering about with their ak and bandoliers, without a clue in the world.

All fuel supplies will be confiscated by the authorities ultimately, as will much of the food provisions in the local stores, particularly if martial law is declared.

So keep it as simple as you can, given the number of people you are trying to take care of. Hay burners are always good. Obviously the more you store, the more you have to pack, particularly if you are in a city and have to hike out. Seeds for when you establish a camp far from the maddening crowd, and if you are lucky enough to be in a secluded area chickens for eggs and meat. Just an old grunts view.........lol

Hi, Whats a Hay Burner?

Is it like a cast iron stove? Will it burn cow chips as well? Any ideas on where to see a picture of one?

As far as the Confiscation goes, I'm seeing that anything that even looks "evil military" may get you into trouble in the future.

That includes OD Green Footlockers, Military BDU's, Rainsuits, Medical Pouches, Packs, Heck even a Gas Mask or Bayonette could get you "Classified" as a Potential Anti Government Instigator, and they may run you up the UN FlagPole, or the Mexican Flagpole, whichever is running this country then.

For God Sakes, Dont have any "Dont Tread On Me flags " Or "Come and Take It" Banners...

I'm Not giving up My "Remember San Jacinto" Flag EVER!

Just a thought,

Best Regards,

Blitzkreigen

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Sometimes a horse is referred to as a hay burner. It's also a pellet stove, i believe they are cast iron.


They have some info here; www.grassbioenergy.org...

And don't ever give up anything !


Hope the link helps answer your question.

Thanks for that Link!

I saw a Pellet Stove at BUCK stoves a few years back, and I have always been interested in them.

Thats a really informative site, and I will absorb some knowledge to help make a decision on the best way to go.

As for the Horse..... DUH! I shoulda' figured that out !

Unfortunately, a horse in not in the cards for me any time soon.

I already have 2 large dogs, and 5 cats and 8 fish eating like HOGS !

Perhaps some day, but I'll probably get Ducks, Geese and Rabbits first.

Thanks again for the Link, and the knowledge.

Best Regards,

Blitzkreigen


PS... I'm not giving 'anything' up very easily! 5th Generation Texan Here, raised by a Depression Era Grandmother, and I understand HISTORY.

Nope No Huckleberry here...


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You are most welcome, glad i could help. Good attitude & knowing our history is what helps us. Now if we can all remember what our founding fathers told us. There's a thread that i believe may be of interest to you, in case you haven't already seen it i'm gonna post the link for you. It's a real eye opener !


www.abovetopsecret.com...

WOW,, you mean the Government is Lying to us and Deceiving us?

I had not seen that thread, I'm pretty new here like under 30 days.
I appreciate the link. I read a LOT of it, and it requires further investigation, but not at 3:30 am

Actually, I kinda gave up a LONG time ago on fixing this system.

When I was on a Military Base in DC for a few years, I saw more Fraud, Waste and Abuse, violations of EPA guidelines, OSHA violations, and a LOT of Governmental BACKSTABBING and Nepitism to the n'th degree.

If anyone ran a company like the Government runs its business, they would all be bankrupt and in Jail for FRAUD and occupational Safety and Health Code 'Negligence'. ( Meaning they knowingly put people at risk without telling them, but THEY knew the dangers. Money Talked, Innocents were Lost )

Dont get me started... lol... I have become "one with the way" now and it does not include beating my head against a wall to save the system.

Thats really a Great thread, and I will re- read it further in detail tomorrow, so I can have GREATER outlook for Memorial Day.

You can bet that I will be Remembering what My Grandfather fought for in WWII ( even after it was 'over' he still came under attack), what My Grandmother Taught me about How to live as a Christian, and what Morals and Values we were all supposed to inherit from the Greatest Generation and their hardships. Somewhere after 1960 we all went off course.

I'm saddened by the state of affairs today, and sometimes old houses need a remodeling job. At least a foundation repair, and stronger roof.
The 'Yard Fence' could use quite a bit of work too, as those damn stray dogs and cats keep sneaking through into my garden. It has not been maintained very well and is falling over from the footings.

I'm almost to the point of thinking "TENT", because you know how long it takes contractors to actually complete a job. You know it will be overbudget and way behind schedual. I know I can make it in a "Tent", its just sad to see the House fall apart. Insurance got dropped a while back, so its up to us to pay for it... one way or another..

I really appreciate you Posting that Link to Sizzle's thread.

I've decided that I cant save anyone else, but those closest to me, and I think we have mired ourselves pretty thick in Black Gumbo Mud, with no winch to free us. ( Someone stole it and sold it on the International /Corporate market.)


Best Regards,

And Have a Really Thoughtful Memorial Day !

Blitzkreigen


'Bad Dog' Moto Lives ! On top of the Highest Mountain in Texas.
Memorial Day 1992.


To Stay On Thread Topic... YES I am Stockpiling... EVERYTHING worth keeping! The List keep getting shorter, as I lose confidence in workmanship and materials available.

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Lol i love your wording, and understand completely where you come from.

I'm new here myself. Her thread is long and does require a lot of investigation, but real food for thought. I found it interesting, and am still checking out certain things. She has another along similar lines, if your interested let me know i'll post the link for you.

Right now as far as stockpiling goes, my main focus is on hierloom seeds and a good book about harvesting and processing your own seeds. For those that don't do this times may get very hard !