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This is being introduced in each state!

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posted on Apr, 21 2008 @ 10:55 PM
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Congress eliminated a similar requirement in the 1980s, because there was no law enforcement benefit. Federal law had required purchasers of handgun ammunition to sign a ledger, but Congress repealed that requirement in 1983 (.22 rimfire) and 1986 (center-fire handguns), because it burdened purchasers, vendors and police, with no law enforcement benefit.

www.nraila.org...


The Democrats lost the Congress once before because of aggressive anti-gun legislation and they are a little "gun-shy," but it is essential that your legislators hear from you about your feelings about this legislation.

One thing that the gun-grabbers are trying to do this time is getting this legislation passed state-by-state, which would be harder to fight once the states have passed such legislation, because it might require a lawsuit for each state.

The NRA is on top of this and you should do likewise.




posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 12:44 AM
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[exactly right this is a law to see who is stockpiling ammuntion nothing more why do i say this . has none of these guys watched a cop show bullets fragment where would you stamp serial number on it to make it survive fragmentation. no this law is aimed at finding out who has large amounts of ammo who my use it for uprising against a criminal goverment or who might be planning on going columbine style.



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 01:06 AM
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My understanding is this law affects relaoders as well through the "by 2011 all noncoded ammo, in dealers or private hands shall be discarded" portion of the law. This should directly affect me, if I actually had any intention of following the law if it gets passed. They aren't trying to track who's commiting crime, they're trying to directly prevent people from stockpiling. Why would they want to prevent stockpiling? Simple answer, a man with a defensible position, firearms, food, and water (in other words, a prepared man) can hold out as long as his ammunition lasts.

They'll pass this most likely under some bullcrap "protect the children" mumbo-jumbo as the reason it's a good bill. Just like they did with automatic firearms years ago. It has nothing to do with protecting children, but rather it has to do with limiting your abillity to protect yourself and your property.

I'll be writing my representatives about this since I am in a state where it has been already proposed, but I doubt it will do any good. There's almost a part of me that would rather just keep quiet on this to keep from getting flagged.



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 01:56 AM
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I wonder if it will apply to certain ammo, like hollow points, slugs, etc. If so then what about training rounds, they are great to stock up on, because I can get 100 9mm training rounds (speer lawmen) for $18.00. Really cheap compared to some of the other ones.

Yes training rounds don't do as much damage, but for what I will hopefully not need em for, it will be within 5 yards.

If you need to stock up on rounds, training rounds are the way to go.

[edit on 22-4-2008 by Harvestfreak]



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 06:41 AM
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SECTION 6.

(a) Any vendor that knowingly fails to comply with, or falsifies the records required to be kept by this act commits a Class A misdemeanor.
(b) Any manufacturer that knowingly fails to comply with this act commits a Class A misdemeanor punishable by fine only not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000) for a first violation and punishable by fine only not to exceed five thousand dollars ($5,000) for second and subsequent violations.
(c) Any person who knowingly destroys, obliterates, or otherwise renders unreadable, the serialization required pursuant to this act, on any bullet or assembled ammunition commits a Class A misdemeanor


According to penal code....failure to comply is a Class A Misdemeanor. Not only there will be a fine, but possible jail time. Interesting they left out.


§ 12.21. CLASS A MISDEMEANOR. An individual adjudged
guilty of a Class A misdemeanor shall be punished by:
(1) a fine not to exceed $5,000;
(2) confinement in jail for a term not to exceed one
year; or
(3) both such fine and confinement


Buy up now, and buy up the necessary tools and supplies to make your own for when this bull# law goes into effect. Because when it does, then you know we are in the final days of countdown to armed resistance.

I'm sure you would want to protect yourself and your family when TSHTF.


Government Will Take Our Guns & Military



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 06:47 AM
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I believe i read somewhere that prety much the only differance between hitler and bush was that bush didnt try to take guns from the citizens. Bush = Hitler.



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 07:18 AM
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If anyone was interested. United States House of Representatives

That could be the first way to stop this from coming to your state.


I was thinking if anyone heres back from your Congressman/Congresswomen could you post a excerpt here?

I emailed Congresswoman Ginny Brown-Waite (5th District) yesterday

so fingers crossed. If I get a response I'll post it here.

[edit on 22-4-2008 by Master_Wii]



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 08:03 AM
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Well, I see this as a great money-maker for the black budget. A whole new market will open up for illegal bullets. Let's see, they've got drugs and guns, why not ammo?



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 08:52 AM
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Here in west australia, at gun club, we cant get 7.62 rounds anymore. None are available from america! They were heading up in price, I think about to .70 cents each, but now we have to reload instead of using factory made. Theres nothing like your own loaded bullets anyway. Still, we cant get progectiles and shells from america either. I wonder if its related.



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 11:14 AM
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This has got to be one of the stupidest bill out there. Serial numbers on guns one thing but think about this.

I come to your house take your bullets or print my own, buy black market.


Criminals will still have guns, bullets and you can bet your a$$ they don't have numbers on them and if they do they are stolen or counterfeit.


What if people reload their own ammo? Hell I know many sportsman that do this to save money or make a special load.

These politicians are living in La La land trying to justify their worthless existence.


[edit on 22-4-2008 by Realtruth]



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by Griff
Go ahead and let them take em. Once the crap hits the fan, all I have to do is kill one unpatriotic soldier and I then have his guns and ammunition. Maybe even a microwave blaster too.


[edit on 4/21/2008 by Griff]


This may be seen as an attack...well so be it.
It's people like this that will someday have all our firearms taken away!
This country is full of John Wayne wanna be's.
Just itching to shoot someone in the name of patriotism or some other stupid cause.
I don't know who i should be more afraid of , you or the government.
I have many guns and hoarded ammunition.
But i would never be stupid enough to put into to print how i might use them.
Use your noggin for something other than a hat rack.



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 11:42 AM
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Criminals steal their guns. They will steal their bullets as well.



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 11:53 AM
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You can depend on your ranged weapons that could jam in the heat of battle, or run out of ammo. But I use weapons that need not reload or get jammed. I creep with stealth, and my blade is quiet.... an entire recon team in unknown territory will have dissapeared without realizing they are being picked off.

Remember how to use your hands, and make the blade become as is part of your body. Equipped with similar armor, you can take out a group of gun armed men with stealth and speed without a problem. And the command won't even realize where or when they lost their men.

"Bring your pretty face to my axe!"



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 11:55 AM
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Here's an NRA page where you can read any and all current and proposed legislation regarding your Second Amendment rights, by state.

It's an eye opener.

www.nraila.org...



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 11:58 AM
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And the worst part is they won't even reimburse you for the ammunition that must be destroyed! Maybe a bullet exchange would be a better idea.



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 12:04 PM
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I thought you were a pacifist with your Jesus, Ghandi, and Martin Luther King Avatar..



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by DYepes
I creep with stealth, and my blade is quiet.... an entire recon team in unknown territory will have dissapeared without realizing they are being picked off.


Hey, Ive heard that line before...

Didnt Napoleon Dynamite say that? Something about ninja and bowhunting skills?



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 12:11 PM
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If this goes through, you can bet that a cap on sales will be right on its heels. You'll only be allowed to buy a certain number of rounds per season/year. Keep people from hording, keep people from practicing.



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 12:12 PM
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might already be posted but i am to lazy to re read, is this just for pistol ammo or does this include rifle ammo also??? i kinda like the sound of ammo swap if you get my meaning. i had rather be a john wayne any day than a puppet.



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 12:48 PM
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I thought you were a pacifist with your Jesus, Ghandi, and Martin Luther King Avatar..


The aim of any good pacifist is to avoid conflict. Sometimes the best way to avoid conflict is to remove it.


To survive in an uncivilized world, one must kill those who would kill you, and befriend those who could kill you. The trick is to know the difference.

TheRedneck



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