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Topic started on 21-4-2008 @ 08:53 PM by Master_Wii

This is being introduced in each state!

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This is being introduced in each state

starting with California, New York, Illinois, Hawaii, Maryland, Indiana, Tennessee, and Washington.

See: www.ammunitionaccountability.org...

"No later than January 1, 2011, all noncoded ammunition for the calibers listed in this act, whether owned by private citizens or retail outlets, shall be disposed."

Tennessee

HOUSE BILL 3245

By LARRY J. MILLER

D - Memphis

SENATE BILL 3395

By REGINALD TATE D - Memphis

AN ACT to amend Tennessee Code Annotated, Title 39, Chapter 17, Part 13,

to enact the “Ammunition Accountability Act”.

(visit the link for the full news article)

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reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 08:53 PM by Master_Wii

This is it! Slowly they will unarm us for the NWO agenda. Call me paranoid...but I'll take my chances. Stock up and store up enough unregistered ammo now, so that you'd never be using registered ammunition
After all, you don't have anything to lose in stocking up on ammo now, ammo prices are sure to soar! The reality is too many Americans are dumbed down asleep at the wheel. Many people here are not willing to fight for anything. God help us all.......

www.usavsus.info
(visit the link for the full news article)

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reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 09:12 PM by ianr5741

Real hypocritical to worry about civilians committing crimes with guns, when guns in the hands of governments have murdered hundreds of millions.

Governments are the most dangerous killers, bar none.

reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 09:13 PM by Master_Wii

Friday, February 01, 2008

On Thursday, January 17, legislation was filed in both the Tennessee House and Senate that would requires all handgun ammunition manufactured or sold in Tennessee to be coded with a serial number, and entered into a statewide database at the time of sale. Encoded ammunition would be registered to the purchaser and would include the date of transaction, the purchaser’s name, date of birth, driver’s license number, and the serial number of the ammunition.

SB3395, sponsored by State Senator Reginald Tate (District 33) and HB3245, sponsored by State Representative Larry Miller (District 88) pose a serious threat to our Right to Keep and Bear Arms and need to be stopped immediately.

www.nraila.org...

Do not let these types of so-called laws be passed!
They are coming for your guns, and it wont stop there.
As you can imagine, they will also tax the ammo,at the rate of 5 cents for each round!!!
Do not let it happen, 5 cents today could be $5.00 per round tomorrow

reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 09:25 PM by Master_Wii

Etching serial numbers on a bullet? Give me a fn break. Can they read a number off a bullet lodge in someones skull. I love the slogan: Saving lives, one bullet at a time. Give me a fn break!! This like saying "Joe Doe was hit by a car and killed, the driver fled, but hey, the license plate was imprinted on his dead body. Give me a......

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reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 09:31 PM by DamnedDirtyApes

Thanks for the heads up on this. I've passed it along to some folks already and I'll post it on another board I go to.

reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 09:32 PM by Griff

Go ahead and let them take em. Once the crap hits the fan, all I have to do is kill one unpatriotic soldier and I then have his guns and ammunition. Maybe even a microwave blaster too.

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reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 09:34 PM by RuneSpider

Well, here in Flroida, we're now allowed to carry weapons in our cars onto buisnesses and campuses.
The idea behind the serial number is not to take away guns, it's to identfiy the shooter. If someone buys ammunition and shoots a fellow, then it's possible to track them with the serial number. Which makes it less likely for someone to do so.
And if you have a real problem with it, you can make your own bullets.
The idea here is not taking them away, but better control of said guns. It used to be the only way to match bullets to guns was the striations made as the bullet left the gun, marking it like a finger print. Now it's numbered.

reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 09:41 PM by Griff

It used to be the only way to match bullets to guns was the striations made as the bullet left the gun, marking it like a finger print. Now it's numbered.

How is numbering the bullets going to help in identification of who shot the gun? If I was a criminal, I'd go out of my way to steal someone's identity and register a bunch of bullets. Too many ways around this for it to be effective IMO.

reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 09:41 PM by Master_Wii

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I see your logic, now let me ask you this.

What's to stop a person from removing the bullet & Powder, grinding off the serial number (casing and bullet) and then re-seating the round?

A person who truly wants to commit a premeditated crime can and will do these types of things to prevent detection.

reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 09:41 PM by Master_Wii

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reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 09:45 PM by TheRedneck

I WILL be calling my state senator on this. In the meantime, I don't think folks thought this through... what about reloaders? Is the spent brass gonna be illegal? What about .22 caliber rounds? They work both in rifles and handguns. What about military surplus rounds (.223)? (Problems with the Alabama bill SB541. Don't know about the other states.)

Methinks someone is letting their ocean-liner mouth overload their tugboat brains. Thanks for the link, though, Alabama's bill has been read twice and is in the Judiciary committee as of 4/10/08.

TheRedneck

reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 09:47 PM by johnsky

Oh thats just great.

And what happens when people figure out how to forge the codes? People who bought the legitimate ammo and used it for hunting get blamed for a crime they didn't commit, because someone forged the same code on another bullet, and used it in a crime.

reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 09:53 PM by stikkinikki

It's an interesting proprosal to me although it raises many questions.
What if someone steals your bullets and uses them in the commission of a crime?

reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 09:55 PM by jackinthebox

This has nothing to do with going after criminals. It is all about the government coming after you. They want to know exactly who has what ammo, where, and how much of it.

EDIT to add: Do I really have to point out why they would want that info on law-abiding citizens?

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reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 10:11 PM by RuneSpider

reply to post by Master_Wii

Yoy mean it's a stupid law that's nearly impossible to enforce and easily circumvented? That's the point. It's an effort, and a rather poor effort, for effective gun control without dearming the populace. It'll catch a few idiots here, a few people who were caught in the heat of the moment there, but for the most part it'll be about as affective as the striations on a spent round> Actually, no, it'll be less effective. With forgeries, and burring to erase the numbering you'll have a load of new buisness for crooks, you'll have bulets put back together wrong that'll backfire, duds, ect.
It's a shot in the foot for gun control, though the side affects will be interesting to abserve. Maybe someone'll have a better idea, but bullets are hard to mandate, like knives.

reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 10:21 PM by 4thefight

Thanks for this thread! I think they will have trouble passing this bill at least in SC. The NRA gives lots of money to the governer, and the states.

reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 10:22 PM by GradyPhilpott

All I can say to this is that if you are a gun owner or if you just cherish the Constitution, especially the Second Amendment, you should belong to a group that proactively lobbies for the protection of your rights.

You should be writing your legislators.

You should be registered to vote and you should actually vote.

This is not the time for paranoia. It is a time for action.

www.nraila.org...

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reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 10:24 PM by roadgravel

It is hard to believe that people are payed to come up with ideas like this one. I do not see how this can actually work.

It has to be part of the plan to ultimately remove guns from the hands of the average citizen.

reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 10:34 PM by Dulcimer

Scenario:

-Some criminal who does not obey any law, steals your registered bullets.
-Said criminal kills person using your stolen bullets.
-Police "solve" the crime because they traced the bullets back to you.

Yay!