This issue is banned from mainstream media. Why you still talk about it?

Bad Joke.

Seriously. Bush visit Putin in blacksea apartment two weeks ago... What we see now is believable aftermath. Its very possible that Putin gets free hands with Georgia and Abhasia, and their army is now free to move, when situation in Tsetzenia has been cooled down for a long time.

I believe that there is a contract between US and Russia, and Putin keeps his control, and everything is going with trade deals:

- Kosovo will get its independence and Russia is not arming its Serbs.
- Russia will get free hands with Georgia, and USA will not intercept.

One from one, eye from eye. But there has to be more...

I think that Russia will move aggressively in other parts of world too. If USA backs Israels Syrian attack, and maybe even Iran attack, Russia will start some major operations in Kaspian sea.

Off course USA will condemn Russian moves in near future, but they will not do anything to stop them.

As a Norwegian, this will only deepen my concern for the russian millitary might, not long ago they had a excercise well within the range of Norwegian oil platform, preventing crew's from going home, or replacement crews getting out.


I have seen some of the budget that russia has for 2008-2010, and it's not any good news, I actually ask myself why the Norwegian goverment supplement the russians power stations and decomissioning of old russiand nuclear subs.....this is wrong...

Russia, should take this as a priority, and not exploit nabouring countries like this.

Geopolitical interpretations aside..
That has to be one of the best youtube videos I have seen!

I can't figure out why the Georgeans didn't have a ship in the area with SAMs or something, ready to launch. Surely they must have been able to track and lock-on to the MIG. Still it is a very good video.

Awesome video. I saw the news this morning and Russia had denied shouting it down, but wanted to know why it was in the contested zone. I guess it's pretty hard to argue now.

I always figured Byelarus or the Ukraine would be the first ones to actively conflict with Russia. Who knew?

It has something staged for me....

Im not sure why but just have that feeling with this vid.

Originally posted by tomcat ha
It has something staged for me....

Im not sure why but just have that feeling with this vid.

A Byelarussian false flag to attack Russia? I might buy it if it were the other way around.

I hate to be a party pooper but the original post is not really something that should have been in the aviation forum.

Just thought I'd point that out.

Ive rewatched the video and learned a bit more a bout this problem.

Also it may not be a mig29.




You can see that the missle is fired from near the wing tip.

The mig29 does not carry missles there afaik.




The Su27 however does.




Then there is the location....

It looks like the incident happened at Abkhazia. Which has declared independance from georgia in 1994 and they do have their own goverment and important in this case their own airforce with 2 SU27's and even if it is a russian Mig29 it could be explained as the russian airforce lending a hand to the protection of Abkhazian airspace....

I stil belive this is a Mig 29, you see the twin tailfinns, they are not so far away from eachother as they need to be if this is a Sukhoi.

The Missile is not fired from the wing tip, but a phylon on the outer edge of the wing, this could also as you said, be both SU or a MIG, but it's most likly a Mig.

As to why the shooting was done there is stil 2 versions of the story:

Georgia: plane was flying over Georgian airspace, looking for seperatist.

Russian story #1: Bullocks, we did not shoot down anything.

Russian story #2: Unnmaned plane was shot down due to the fact it was flying over restricted airspace/conflict zone.

I can't believe the pilot didn't go to guns. Shame on Lt. Mig Pilotskov!

Meanwhile, all across the globe, Allied pilots are crapping their g-suits as they realize that:
1) Russian pilots can fly.
2) Russian missiles can track very small targets and hit them on the first shot.
3) Russian pilots will happily shoot your Rolex-wearing butts down and laugh about it.

Great vid!