Originally posted by die_another_day
I swear to god the U.S. has more hackers in the Chinese networks as Americans really are better hackers due to the high availability of computers. In China most people go to internet cafes to do their illegal things thus unable to allocate much time into hacking.

Oh my, you are gravely mistaken. You actually hack from an internet cafe for safety reasons(for your own safety)

Because if you hack from your office or home, and you got unlucky, they'll know where to find you. If you did it from internet cafe, their only option of hunting you down is if by any luck a spy satellite was monitoring the internet cafe you hacked from during the time you're hacking something.

Anyway, that's funny, about the US Gov, they're so cheap!! Let me think, so they are also outsourcing flying saucer parts too??!! lol!!

I would like to think that the Chinese may also be trying to acquire schematics. So they could assemble the finish products of the possibly top-secret parts outsourced to them, whatever they are.

sorry, triple post :S

[edit on 4/6/2009 by funky monk]

sorry, triple post :S

[edit on 4/6/2009 by funky monk]

I'll share with you a little experience I had at my old work place. I was a member of the security team for a large US corporation. We had several computers submitting suspicious outside traffic. After some investigation I narrowed it down to a small group of computers in a corner office. To my surprise I discovered the router to be at fault. There was a hardware back door built into the router and thus we had to replace the router.

Discovering such vulnerabilities is at times very difficult. Often times peers in my field will always suspect a software based attack but now days hackers are much more easily able to write directly to hardware, extending the security threat.

There are so many "zero day virus" out there that slip bellow the radar of the top scanners. One of the most conman way, now days one gets a virus is illegal downloading a application or a game. Some people are even foolish enough to pirate there operating system. Just about every pirated OS I've seen available online has root kit in Window's API. Which means it can hide it self indefinitely.

Since the hardware is compromised from day one with the intent to exploit its the careless training and schooling that is at fault in my opinion. Most IT professionals will take a router, a switch, or a hub out of the box, plug it in and forget about it. With today's securtiy threats we need to consider every possible angle.

So there routers are compromised, what about a compromised operating system? To say Microsoft operating systems are secure is like saying Charles Manson is a sane man. I always scratched my head wondering why the US government chooses to use such a blatantly insecure OS such as Windows. Yes it's sad but true, everyone from the FBI to Navy, and yes some of the NSA use Microsoft operating systems with computers made in China. We are whoring our secrets away, but I guess they were already bought and paid for. I can see the day coming when Chinese tanks roll down Melrose Blvd.

It's a game of cat and mouse really. Every lock is going to be broken at some point.

Really I hope if the Chinese discover something ground breaking like we have 0 point energy or something life changing they'll share the information. =D



[edit on 21-6-2009 by oconnection]

Really what I am getting they got into was millions of dollars worth of TRAINING INFORMATION.

Ross Perot's charts forecasted most of these issues though the media never gave him chance even though he used most of his money running for office of the Presidency. NAFTA alive and well?

Where is he now? Seems to fallen off the face of the Earth. Gag order?


[edit on 27-6-2009 by Perseus Apex]

That
Is indeed fishy

well done on the research............

Agreed and well said.

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