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The Masonic Truth Behind Aliens/UFOs

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posted on Apr, 21 2008 @ 08:36 AM
Royal Blue blood Knight of Malta and Honorary 33rd degree Freemason, America’s 40th President Ronald Reagan often talked about how the whole world would come together if there were an external alien threat to our planet. At the United Nations General Assembly on Sept. 21st, 1987, Reagan said, "In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment, we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world." Speaking to a room full of reporters at the White House on May 5th, 1988, Reagan said, "I've often wondered what if all of us in the world discovered that we were threatened by an outer…a power from another planet. Wouldn't we all of a sudden find that we didn't have any differences between us at all, we were all human beings, citizens of the world and wouldn't we come together to fight that particular threat?" He mentioned this idea many other times throughout his life.

Henry Kissinger at the Bilderberger Conference in Evians, France, 1991 is reported to have said, “Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e. an ‘alien’ invasion], whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.”

“The UFO investigator and lecturer Nono Hayakawa says this plan is called ‘Project Panic’ and that high technology equipment will be used to create an optical illusion of a UFO invasion. This will give governments and the United Nations the excuse to call a global state of emergency and all those emergency powers and executive orders will be implemented.” -David Icke, “The Biggest Secret” (486)

Almost every movie or TV show you have ever seen about aliens or the Moon came from a Freemasonic director! All of these were made by Masons: Close Encounters of the Third Kind, ET, Taken, Alien 1-4, Independence Day, 2001: Space Odyssey, Star Wars, Star Trek, Men In Black, From the Earth to the Moon, Apollo 13, War of the Worlds, and the X-Files.

Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek was a 33rd Degree Scottish-Rite Freemason. This why we have “Scotty,” Spock’s Kabalistic/Masonic “V” hand gesture, pyramid-shaped communicators, and other Masonic symbols. The name Captain “Kirk” comes from “Circe” and means “church” in Scottish. So the church (Captain Kirk) is the head of the starship Enterprise. What enterprise? Whose enterprise do you think? Take note that the Vatican actually funds and controls every astronomical telescope and observatory in the world. All findings run through the Vatican before both the public and the scientific communities. What does this tell us? Meanwhile, the Masonic movie/music industries give us Stars, Superstars, Devas, Celebrities, Models, and Idols to worship.

George Lucas, the creator of Star Wars also floods his movies with Masonic symbology. Yoda is the name of a Masonic teacher. The Djed-eye (Jedi) comes from the ancient Egyptian as noted earlier. The idea of Jedi Knights and a round table comes from the Knights Templar. Skywalker is the name of the 13th Tzolkien in the Mayan calendar, the symbol of which looks just like the top of Luke’s flight helmet. Anakin comes from Anakim or the Sons of Anak in the Bible and Darth Vader no doubt comes from the “Da’ath” black sephiroth of the Jewish Kabbalah. These occult interpretations of Hollywood movies and TV programs are well understood by initiates, but purposely meant to bewilder the public.

“Since the 1970's, Spielberg has directed or produced seven of the top twenty grossing films of all time. Throughout his career we see an obsession with the alien/UFO/space theme. From the 1977 Close Encounters of the Third Kind to ET in 1982, to Deep Impact in 1998. All depict an invasion from outer space. Even the movie Jaws is littered with shooting stars and strange lights in the sky. Spielberg was also executive producer for the July 2002 release Men in Black 2, a movie where a shadow government ‘protects’ the people of the world from an alien threat. In February 1997 a leading light in the British film industry leaked the story that Spielberg and executives of his company DreamWorks had secretly met with senior Pentagon officials in Los Angeles. The officials told Spielberg to ‘stop everything’ and produce a movie whose subject matter involved meteors and/or comets. One year later Deep Impact was in the can. The film describes a comet hurtling towards earth and the fight for who has the privilege of access to an underground bunker. Who were these Pentagon officials and why were they so eager for Bilderberg asset Spielberg to produce a movie about a threat from outer space? Commencing in December 2002, the SciFi Channel will screen Taken, Spielberg's 20-hour mini-series focusing on alien abduction. The cost of this production was a staggering $120 million - making it the most expensive miniseries in television history. You'd think Spielberg would by now have tired of the genre, but his elite controllers are really zealous to implant this alien paradigm in the minds of the public.” -Paul Joseph Watson, “Order Out of Chaos” (171)

[edit on 21-4-2008 by freight tomsen]

posted on Apr, 21 2008 @ 08:40 AM
Steven Spielberg is known to have attended Bilderberg in 1999 and perhaps in other years. There are also allegations that the infamous “Alien Autopsy” and “Alien Interview” footage were Spielberg productions. The Rockefellers funded/supported Erick Von Daniken (who was caught with fake “artifacts”) and many other early "UFOlogists" and "ancient astronaut” theorists. Why do you suppose this is? Remember the poster for Steven Spielberg’s ET that replaced the finger of God in Michelangelo’s Sistine Chapel with the finger of an alien? This is the Psy-Op.

We're supposedly generation X. Aliens keep telling “contactees” that Annunaki Planet X is coming in 2012. The X-Files on Fox lends plausibility and builds the mystery of aliens. A supposed government insider with knowledge of Area 51, UFOs, and aliens calls himself “Mr. X.” He always interviews in the dark or appears blurred with voice modification and supposedly blows the whistle on all these top-secret documents he has read. Is this just coincidence?

SETI, the government organization in a “Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence” is Masonically named after an Egyptian Pharaoh. CC like the “alien” Crop Circles and the CCs on the “Moon” encode Masonic 33. Stanley Kubrick’s 2001: Space Odyssey came out 33 years prior in 1968. In 1947 the Area 51/Roswell UFO allegedly landed at 33.33 degrees north latitude (the Masonic number) and 104 degrees longitude. Interestingly, 104 is 33.33 multiplied by Pi (3.14159), and 33.33 degrees latitude is exactly 2012 miles. Thus 2012 has been numerically encoded into the alien hoax since the beginning. Also in 1947 the US government created the CIA and the NSA. As Jordan Maxwell has pointed out, the terms NSA and NASA come from NASI or NAZI, the German secret society creation whose UFO-experimenting rocket scientists were imported via the OSS/CIA. Also in 1947 was the Rothschild’s Balfour Declaration and all the AzkeNAZI Jews entering Israel. This is the same Israel that has seen much UFO activity, and is in the Bible where we see the AnnuNAKI. AnnuNAKI, AzkeNAZI, NAZI, NASI, NASA, NSA, what does it all mean?

Adam Weishaupt, the founder of the Illuminati wrote, “Of all the means I know to lead men, the most effectual is a concealed mystery. The hankering of the mind is irresistible; and if once a man has taken it into his head that there is a mystery in a thing, it is impossible to get it out, either by argument or experience. And then, we can so change notions by merely changing a word. What more contemptible than fanaticism; but call it enthusiasm; then add the little word noble, and you may lead him over the world."

The whole idea is to create an insatiable occult mystery to make you think aliens must be real. In 1947, 33rd degree Mason and President Harry S. Truman formed Majestic-12 or MJ-12, a secret committee of scientists and government officials assigned to investigate Roswell, UFOs, and aliens. One of the biggest organizations providing a voice for supposed whistle-blowers like “Mr. X” is Project Camelot ( Camelot is Arthur’s castle in the astrological/mushroom legend and he has 12 Knights of the Round Table. The Round Table is the name of Cecil Rhodes original secret society devoted to bringing in world government. So again we have aliens and secret society numerology/symbology intertwined. MJ-12, 12 Knights of the Round Table - another Project Camelot “insider” is Clifford “Stone.” Stone as in Masonry, or Arthur’s Sword in the Stone perhaps? Jim “Marrs” talks about Mars/Moon anomalies, UFOs, aliens, reptiles, and ancient astronauts (Marrs also worked with Oliver “Stone” on the JFK film). Michael St. Clair of the St. Clair/Sinclair Illuminati bloodline and John Lear of the Lear Jet (military-industrial) family are also interviewed by Project Camelot about aliens, and so is Richard Hoagland.

Richard Hoagland uses the Masonic “Enterprise” as his project’s name, at Hoagland, a regular Coast 2 Coast AM guest and UN speaker, who allegedly has insider friends at NASA talks about pyramids, faces, and other anomalies on Mars that he claims NASA is covering up. He is also following the suspicious Hexagon formation on Saturn and the disappearance of the bees. Is he really exposing things going on within NASA or is that just the “good guy” image necessary for the public’s further indoctrination? Could Richard Hoagland be working for NASA, or at least for the Masons, and providing the antithesis to NASA’s thesis in the Hegelian Dialectic? NASA provides the official line, denies there being aliens or anomalies on Mars or the Moon. Then Richard Hoagland and other “insiders” present all this information about UFOs and anomalies in Moon/Mars pictures postulating aliens as though that is what NASA is covering up. But to begin with, NASA is covering up the Moon landing, which Hoagland and many others never dispute. Thus Hoagland becomes a false antithesis to NASA’s thesis, and the synthesis is hoped to be the eventual world-wide belief in aliens.

posted on Apr, 21 2008 @ 08:46 AM

“Dr. Steven Greer is the director of the Disclosure Project, a non-profit research project working to fully disclose the facts about UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence, and classified advanced energy and propulsion systems. In a June 2002 article he warned of how a phony UFO invasion would be presented to the public so they would willingly sacrifice their liberty and rally round the government in opposition to the nefarious ET's. Greer describes the ultimate trump card – a hoaxed threat from space, Since 1992 I have seen this script unveiled to me by at least a dozen well-placed insiders. Of course, initially I laughed, thinking this just too absurd and far-fetched. Dr. Rosin gave her testimony to the Disclosure Project before 9/11. And yet others told me explicitly that things that looked like UFOs but that are built and under the control of deeply secretive 'black' projects, were being used to simulate - hoax - ET-appearing events, including some abductions and cattle mutilations, to sow the early seeds of cultural fear regarding life in outer space. Like the movie Independence Day, an attempt to unite the world through militarism would unfold using ET as the new cosmic scapegoat (think Jews during the Third Reich). Do not be deceived. By commingling fact with fiction, and by hoaxing UFO events that can look terrifying, the Plan is to eventually create a new, sustainable, off-planet enemy. And who will be the wiser?” -Paul Joseph Watson, “Order Out of Chaos” (167)

David Icke, Michael Tsarion, Jim Marrs, Zecharia Sitchin and other researcher’s current positions lean toward the idea that the world’s royal bloodlines and/or all humans are descended from alien progenitors. I highly respect the work of Icke, Tsarion, and Marrs, but disagree with their belief in Reptilian extra-terrestrial progenitors. Many cultures all over the world have the same mythologies and creation stories that involve the heavens, stars, angels, demons, serpents, snakes, or dragons. African Kings claimed descent from the Chituhuri serpent people. Chinese Kings claimed descent from ancient dragon gods that came from the sky. The Sumerian Kings claimed descent from the Annunaki, “those who from Heaven to Earth came.” Annunaki, are called many things in the Bible: Anak, Anakim, Sons of Anak, and Nephilim are some of the more common. These are the Fallen Angels among whom Satan is leader. But are they literal physical alien beings from outer-space? The Sumerian symbol for Planet X (Nibiru), which many say will come back in 2012, is the same symbol found over most Masonic temples and meeting halls. The symbol is the top of the caduceus, a winged-orb, sometimes drawn with the two serpents. This is a spiritual symbol for crown chakra illumination, and not a physical planet.

“Carl Sagan described the three tiers of the human brain as the reptilian (the most ancient and deepest layer), the limbic (the middle tier that directs motor sensory and normal life functions), and the neocortex (the uncharted territory of the upper realms). He also used the symbolic dragon to portray the dormant, sleeping, reptilian part of the brain that is both ancient and undisturbed. When the sleeping dragon rises, his fire (kundalini) surges throughout the various layers and in alchemical measures awakens and integrates the triune brain." -Ray Flower, “The Union and Reunion of Opposites”

Recent books like Dan Brown’s best-seller “Da Vinci Code” have promoted the idea that Jesus was a real person whose bloodline is being preserved to this day. It’s true that the elite obsessively inbreed to preserve their DNA, but it is not the DNA of Jesus. The Bible claims that the Son of Man will come back and sit on his throne in Israel. Matthew 19:28 reads, “Jesus said to them, ‘Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the Son of Man will sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.’”

It is impossible to “sit on twelve thrones” so this, like most everything in the Bible, must be metaphorical. The idea of sitting on twelve thrones and ruling twelve tribes is something that can and does happen within our own consciousness when we become aware of the true twelve “gods.” As was understood all over the ancient world, the 12 gods of Atlantis/Olympus are facets of our own consciousness. Everyone carries the messages and personalities of all 12 signs of the zodiac. Different people exemplify (worship) different gods/signs, but He who is King, the 13th, he who controls the 12 around 1, is something to strive for. To balance the characteristics of the 12 gods, we must keep our perspective as the 13th objective observer. This is what is meant by sitting on twelve thrones and judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

This is not, however, a perspective shared by many of the world’s indoctrinated priests/pastors and their parishioners who are all waiting for a messiah to come and save the world. The idea of a messiah coming during end times is shared by Jews, Christians, and Muslims alike, thus this is the perfect paradigm through which to present the bloodlines’ first King of the New World Order.

According to the elite, as the first messiah came to establish the Kingdom of Heaven, the second illuminated messiah will establish a New World under his rule. Concerning this messiah, 33rd degree Mason Manly P. Hall, in “The Secret Destiny of America” wrote that, "The outcome of the 'secret destiny' is a World Order ruled by a King with supernatural powers. This King was descended of a divine race; that is, he belonged to the Order of the Illumined for those who come to a state of wisdom then belong to a family of heroes-perfected human beings" (26).

Someone of royal lineage like Prince William could be paraded around by the mass media and shown performing miracles - amazing feats and philanthropic gestures perhaps. UFO sightings increase, the news gradually begins regularly reporting on aliens, UFOs, Area 51, Reptilians etc. until 2012 they stage a mass UFO wave over major world cities.

posted on Apr, 21 2008 @ 08:48 AM
Just like Independence Day the movie, they could claim that world government under the UN is the only way to exterminate the alien threat. Along the Bible/Da Vinci Code line, they could claim that Prince William is the descendent of Jesus, or they could give us some other messiah. Or they could use “Project Bluebeam” and give us different holographic messiahs simultaneously in different parts of the world:

“One of their key plans is called Project Bluebeam. One element of this is to use laser-generating satellites in the ‘Star Wars’ network in different parts of the world to project holographic images in the sky of UFOs, Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Khrishna, etc. With each belief system convinced that their savior has come, the potential for enormous religious conflict is obvious. Messages will be broadcast (as they already are) on the Extremely Low Frequency (ELF), Very Low Frequency (VLF), Low Frequency (LF) and microwave bands which can be picked up by the human brain. This technology is highly sophisticated today and many people will believe that ‘God’ and their ‘savior’ is talking to them when it is really the Brotherhood manipulators. Much ‘channeled’ information comes from this source already. Project Bluebeam also involves the manifestation of ‘supernatural’ phenomena of many kinds to terrify the population and amid the terror and conflict, also via holographic image in the sky, the Brotherhood ‘savior’ will come.” -David Icke, “The Biggest Secret” (482)

The military most certainly has anti-gravity flying saucer technology. Doubtless a large number of UFO sightings are classified US government craft. The mass sightings caught on film and viewed by thousands like the Phoenix lights or Chicago O’Hare sightings are likely military craft/light technology performing a psychological operation on the public. Some UFOs seem to be physical crafts, others seem more like lights or holograms, and others still more like subjective hallucinations, dreams, or astral projection.

“There is something dreamlike about UFO sightings, alien encounters, and abduction attempts. Something not-quite-physical. Almost as if the whole thing is going on inside the observer’s head … UFOs perform amazing, physics-defying maneuvers, making right angle turns or 180 switchbacks, materializing and dematerializing, changing colors and shape, merging and splitting. One possible explanation of how they do these is that they don’t do them at all … I’m not saying all UFO appearances are merely mental illusions, projections of some sort, but I believe many are. And I believe all of them have some psychological/illusory component. Some UFOs are captured on film, video, or radar. Some are witnessed by hundreds of people at once. And some leave fairly convincing physical evidence of their presence. So there may be some physical manifestation aspect to in these things, too. But have you ever noticed how blurry and indistinct eyewitness photos and videos are? Almost if the craft are not wholly there? If UFOs are real, where is the solid evidence? If they’re crashing everywhere, surely some hillbilly’s got a Venutian dashboard in his cellar. Why doesn’t he bring it out? Where are the clear photos that don’t turn out to be forgeries?” -Jefferson Scott, “Are Aliens Demons?” (

"Our research has found extensive similarities between UFO encounters and religious and metaphysical mysticism, folklore, shamans' trances, migraine attacks, and even the operations of the creative imagination. Among the similarities are recurrent image-constants, a basically consistent sequence of events, and the unusual ‘peak experience’ quality common to all. Also, very bizarre incidents in abduction reports have parallels in these phenomena. For example, the embarrassingly incredible ‘bodily dismemberment’ sometimes reported by abductees is a regular feature of shaman's ‘death-rebirth’ trances.” -Alvin H. Lawson

This extract has been taken from my book The Atlantean Conspiracy available for FREE download with hundreds of color pictures at:

posted on Apr, 21 2008 @ 12:46 PM
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posted on Apr, 21 2008 @ 01:43 PM
reply to post by freight tomsen

Wow - Thats very interesting freight tomsen! An extremely well weaved tapestry. I give some authors of your source material more credence than others but you've definitely piqued my interest!

It was well worth the time to read it in it's entirety, and I would recommend it to any ATS member who is interested in these topics as a unified theory, but as I've previously alluded to; it can be argued that portions of the material are somewhat dubious in nature.

All in all though, well done mate! I'll definitely download the book. I look forward to reading about these theories in more detail! Very entertaining!


posted on Apr, 21 2008 @ 02:04 PM
This was really an intersting read!

I can't say that i agree to everyting though, the masonry is in my opinion a bit over rated, they might perhaps strive for ruling the world, or various country's, but i think they are far from succeeding in sucn an attempt.

However, i tend to lean more at an millitary coup, someone who is probably well know, has alot of influence, both personally and within the millitary and is trusted by the troops around him.
It might not even be a millitary person, but someone with influence and is well known within the millitary.

Still far fetched, but as we know too little in this subject, any thing we do, is only speculation.

Very good research!

posted on Apr, 21 2008 @ 03:54 PM
starred and flagged sir.

now, all you have to do is prove that you too are not a disinfo agent sent by the very antagonists you speak of in order to send us researching for your claims which may all lead to dead ends; all the while you /your institutions log and gather info on our IP's, sites visited, last purchase made online , and physical shipping addresses.
--- otherwise we would once again be going in circles--until the next poster comes along with "bright ideas and theories"

-its also funny, in the midst of naming names of all these ellusive governemnt and secret society bodies, [besides movies you mentioned]how you fail to mention much about the news outlets, television, programmings, the growth of printed magazines [i.e. people magazines us weekly, magazine publications have more than quadruppled in the past decade] , and other big media conspiracies to keep the general public pre-occupied with non-stop-non-sense-programming on television, and the internet[ youtube, myspace, google video, home shopping network etc... notice how once known only to a niche of crowds, these sites take off, and all of a sudden, your government and "evil"cooporations are all over them... see any patterns?]

i need for you to provide links to everything you claim, producer list, or sites thta have records of all your claims here. Reagan's speech transcript And who was his speech writer at the time of his presidency
-- as far as i know the alien interview and autopsy have both been de-bunked, please show that speilberg had connection in their productions.
-- can you also give links to your Masonic references? how or why should we trust you are telling the truth? where are you gathering all this info from sir?
-- Richard Hoagland is a fool. please prove me wrong.
-- Dr. Steven Greer is a fraud. please prove me wrong
-- we have some exotic amount of genes that are still unknown or what their functions are. more tha any living creature on earth. how does that connect us to an alien past?

what im trying to say here in a nutshell is that for each paragraph where you state something that is outlandish or far-fetched, provide links or references for you material. [no one is asking for proof hre, we just want to make sure that you too are not a victim of the very mass-alien-histeria you are warning us about]

posted on Apr, 21 2008 @ 09:37 PM
very interesting thread,

makes one wonder if everything about ufo's and aliens are just (fake) actors in a big movie being produced by the new world order ? what i mean by that this nwo agenda making this stuff up and also creating experiences so that they can pull off the biggest hoax of all time ? i think about the radio program... war of the worlds and how easily people were fooled and frightened. could they be trying to duplicate this but on a bigger scale ?

if half of what you posted is true then i believe we should be very worried about what's coming in the future.

i have no problem at all believing that there are masonic influences in ushering in the NWO by means of scaring us to death with aliens and then the goverments coming to save the day and telling us we have to unite to defend our planet. just like Ronald Reagen's speech at the U.N.

the question i have is...

is this alien conspiracy 100% fabrication...meaning is there absolutely no E.T.'s visiting this earth ?

could this conspiracy coincide with real E.T.'s also ?

once again... good and a flag from me.

posted on Apr, 21 2008 @ 10:49 PM
Yes, the idea of physical aliens or reptilian progenitors is 100% Masonic hoax. If you have ever taken Ayahuasca, '___', Magic Mushrooms etc. then you know that there is a "spirit world" with beings much like Greys and Reptilians, but they are non-physical.

For more info on that I recommend Jeremy Narby's "The Cosmic Serpent," Rick Strassman's "'___' - The Spirit Molecule" and Graham Hancock's "Supernatural."

To the guy saying Greer's a fraud and Hoagland's a fool, why are you pointing fingers at me? If you read my thread, you'd see I agree that Hoagland's hoaxing us and so is Greer's "Disclosure" with these supposed "insiders" some of whom likely know they're lying and others who honestly think they KNOW aliens exist. You also requested Reagan's speech, google Reagan and aliens, you'll get a bunch of times he's mentioned this, not just the one's I quoted. And you're last question referring to an "alien past" completely proves to me that you didn't even read my post. We don't have an alien past, dude.

posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 07:06 AM

“There’s just something devilish about so many UFO and alien contact stories. You’ve got the UFOs playing tag with aircraft, like cute little imps. You’ve got babies stolen from their cribs just like medieval goblins used to do. You’ve got trickster aliens who even the military admits ‘have a tendency to lie.’ You’ve got sexual alien encounters like the succubus/incubus stories from the Middle Ages. And you’ve got the sadistic, one might even say fiendish, aliens with their sadistic exploratory surgeries …Even the ‘aliens’ themselves admit that people in ages past used to call them devils, goblins, trolls, and demons. My, weren’t people delightfully primitive back then? But couldn’t it be that people called them demons back then not because of their provinciality, but because that’s what these beings really were (and are)?” -Jefferson Scott, “Are Aliens Demons?” (

They are demons or angels, spirits, demi-gods, ghosts, aliens, disembodied consciousness, any or all of the above. In Islam such creatures are called “Jinns.” Shamans regularly visit the spirit world through drugs and trances where they receive incredible information about medicine, the future, dangers, opportunities, etc. This information is relayed to them by actual entities, spiritual entities, many of which appear just like the “greys” or “reptilian” aliens. Again, the authenticity of this “spirit world” is one that can only be believed/verified through experience. Most people who have never taken an entheogen vehemently deny the validity of this, while those who have already know and agree.

“Demonology is not just another crackpot-ology. It is the ancient and scholarly study of the monsters and demons who have seemingly coexisted with man throughout history. Thousands of books have been written on the subject, many of them authored by educated clergymen, scientists and scholars, and uncounted numbers of well-documented demonic events are readily available to every researcher. The manifestations and occurrences described in this imposing literature are similar, if not entirely identical, to the UFO phenomenon itself. Victims of demonomania (possession) suffer the very same medical and emotional symptoms as the UFO contactees ... The devil and his demons can, according to the literature, manifest themselves in almost any form and can physically imitate anything from angels to horrifying monsters with glowing eyes. Strange objects and entities materialize and dematerialize in these stories, just as the UFOs and their splendid occupants appear and disappear, walk through walls, and perform other supernatural feats.” -John Keel, “UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse” (192)

“The 'medical examination' to which abductees are said to be subjected, often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation, is reminiscent of the medieval tales of encounters with demons. It makes no sense in a sophisticated or technical framework: any intelligent being equipped with the scientific marvels that UFOs possess would be in a position to achieve any of these alleged scientific objectives in a shorter time and with fewer risks.” -Dr. Jacques Vallee, “Confrontations” (13)

“Abductions also contain psychological elements. The ‘aliens’ play with abductees’ minds, promising one thing then delivering another, or claiming to have imperative messages for mankind, then delivering nonsensical gibberish or absurd instructions. Abductees often feel psychologically manipulated and abused. Another fishy aspect of abductions is the appearance of the inside of UFOs. They always appear different in size or shape from what could be possible, given the size of the UFO as seen from the outside. Just another evidence of the surreal, dreamlike quality of sightings. I also like how the inside of these craft always appear in whatever form would seem high-tech to the abductee. The visitor to a UFO in the 1950s saw banks upon banks of magnetic tape drives. Modern abductees see flatscreens, projected 3D images, and lasers. Isn’t it amazing that aliens from all quadrants of the universe are advancing in their technology at exactly the same rate as Earthlings? … It’s almost as if these creatures can tap into that part of the brain that stores the bugaboo costumes and don the garb themselves. In other words, perhaps they look like what people expect them to look because they’re conjured up from inside the mind of the viewer.” -Jefferson Scott, “Are Aliens Demons?” (

All these contactee/abductee reports sound reminiscent of the spirits picked up by Ouija boards, trance channelers, shamans, and psychic mediums. With the help and funding of the Rockefellers, the field of “demonology” has slowly transitioned to “UFOlogy.” Medieval demons, imps, and goblins have become modern greys, reptiles, and Nordics.

“The endless messages from the space people would now fill a library, and while the communicators claim to represent some other world, the contents of those messages are identical to the messages long received by mediums and mystics.” -John Keel, “UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse” (183)

“Thousands of mediums, psychics and UFO contactees have been receiving mountains of messages from 'Ashtar' in recent years. Mr. Ashtar represents himself as a leader in the great intergalactic councils which hold regular meetings on Jupiter, Venus, Saturn, and many planets unknown to us. But Ashtar is not a new arrival. Variations of this name, such as Ashtaroth, Ashar, Asharoth, etc., appear in demonological literature throughout history, both in the Orient and the Occident. Mr. Ashtar has been around a very long time, posing as assorted gods and demons and now, in the modern phase, as another glorious spaceman.” - John Keel, “UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse” (230)

Ashtar-oth was the legendary 'consort' to Baal, an ancient Chaldean god who was often offered sacrifices. But now within the Rockefeller funded “New Age” movement we hear that “Ashtar Command” is coming to help and save us from ourselves.

[edit on 22-4-2008 by freight tomsen]

posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 07:13 AM

“The average citizen does not realize that a techno-occultic bill of goods is being sold to the public by some scientists, politicians, and entertainment personalities. The man on the street is gazing at the stars because he is being told by so many 'authorities' that not only is man evolving, but that there are other evolving civilizations more advanced than ours, and that some day we will be friends and partners with these aliens in a grand adventure in an upward process of evolution leading to godhood!” -David Allen Lewis, “UFO End-Time Delusion” (116)

This is not to say all UFOs are non-physical. The government most certainly has real flying saucers/anti-grav tech as well. Nazi Nasa director Werner von Braun, just before he died, in an interview with Carol Rosin, he said that in order to sustain the military-industrial complex, first they had created the “Cold War” threat. Once that veil was lifted, a false “terrorist” threat would be created and propagated to the public. Once that was seen through they would create a false asteroid threat to be dealt with in an “Armageddon” military-industrial manner. Then their last card is to stage a fake alien invasion using their classified anti-gravity “UFO” technology.

“Think about it. If you wanted an excuse to globally centralize all government, finance, military, police and other institutions, you would need a threat to the planet as a whole. What better way than to kid the people they are being invaded from space? You would have a global problem, a global demand that ‘Something must be done’ and an opportunity to offer a global solution: a world government and army to meet this ‘threat’. That is the plan we are now being prepared for.” -David Icke, “The Biggest Secret” (483)

posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 11:38 AM
Wow... amazing. Excellently presented. Unarguable.

My question to you is, what do we do? I have been searching for truth and have ignored the alien, reptillian thing as it seemed to have this, dont worry, aliens will save us feel to it. My question now is what do we do? I dont think this is a physical fight at all. But if the new age, getting in touch with yourself and your true power is bull#. Then what is real? Where should we be now? I have alot of my own theories and ideas that I would like to bounce off of you. See if we can't work something out together. Again... fantastic post. You have me 99% convinced and im leaving aliens where I had left them. In the back of the line. Looking foward to your response.

[edit on 22-4-2008 by BlakSheep]

posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 12:40 PM
Thanks BlakSheep. I agree this isn't a physical fight. It's psychological. To try and answer your questions, I think it's best to quote the final chapter in my book:

Will the Brotherhood actually play the fake alien invasion card? No one knows for sure what the future will bring, but based on their history, the elites doubtless hope to continue their process of “Order out of Chaos,” to further centralize and globalize their control. This term Order out of Chaos, in Latin Ordo ab Chao, is the slogan of the 33rd degree of Freemasonry.

“Secret Societies have a great motto ‘Ordo Ab Chao’ meaning ‘Order Out of Chaos’. Agendas are formulated designed to give the powerful more power. Chaos is created, and media blitzed. Then cries go out for solution. Laws are passed which could never have been passed without the chaos. The order, has reigned through deception of the masses, and the agenda is accomplished.” –James Arthur, “Mushrooms and Mankind” (38)

“The Latin inscription on the banner around the Judaic eagle's head (below the Star of David) - E Pluribus Unum ("From the Many – the One") In other words, first they combined all the ancient stellar cults, now they’re going to combine the world’s governments, militaries, currencies, banks.” -Michael Tsarion, “Astrotheology and Sidereal Mythology”

The New World Order can and will be defeated through a world wide awakening. Once the world’s population understands the information presented in this book, secret society rule will by necessity be phased out. As the populations awaken, the Brotherhood and their conspiratorial control mechanisms that have worked to enslave mankind for thousands of years will quickly crumble. We must shun secret societies and shame on their members. Shun the world’s “royalty,” their knights and vassals, shame on their spineless lap-dogs. It is high time for free humanity to make a stand. Support smaller government. Don’t buy their pharmaceuticals, don’t drink their fluoridated water, and don’t take their vaccines. Don’t eat their junk, genetically modified, nutrient starved food. Buy from local businesses and not from huge corporations and department stores. Don’t watch their “programs” or tune into their “channels.” Don’t buy into their “news,” their magazines, or expert opinions. Don’t be scared of their boogey-men, fall for their patsies, or accept their problem-reaction-solutions. Refuse RFID chips and the big brother surveillance society. As they phase from fiat currency to their cashless credit-based system, we phase into precious metals and old-fashioned trade with locals. The key to overcoming the conspiratorial, oppressive world system is by focusing on and improving your own local systems. We’ve given our responsibility away and it’s time to reclaim it.

“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” -Plato

The biggest obstacle in overcoming the conspiracy is information. The most important thing to do is continue educating yourself and start awakening others to the global conspiracy. Educate your friends, family, neighbors and co-workers. Send this book to everyone you can. Print your own copies (I hereby give permission) and give them to everyone you know! Join in what Alex Jones has deemed the “Infowar,” ( and like Alan Watt, help others to cut through the matrix ( Speak out and make your voice heard like ( or start blogging like ( and ( Don’t be silent or scared. It is now or never if free humanity is going to overthrow the global elite and their world governance systems. Speak up, speak out, be active and creative. Burn DVDs of documentaries like Endgame, Terrorstorm, and Loose Change. Write articles, post on internet message boards, speak at community meetings. Question authority. Question consensus reality. Only trust your own third-eyes.

“The conspiracy can be defeated. The Insiders are not omnipotent. It is true that they control important parts of the federal government, high finance and the mass media. But they do not control everything, or the vise would already have been closed. We might say the conspiracy controls everything but you. You are their Achilles heel if you are willing to fight. There is an old cliché in sports that quitters never win and
winners never quit. We need a million Americans who are not quitters, but, moreover, who have the will to win!” -Gary Allen, “None Dare Call it Conspiracy”

posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 01:18 PM
The best way to spread the message is in a big way. Books - Forums - Speeches - Videos (zeitgeist, esoteric agenda, world according to monsanto). You dont get so defeated when they dont listen and you reach many more people.

I have been buried by unverification by friends and peers which has led me very much astray from my true purpose, until recently. I finally feel like im on track again. I keep this by not talking about this stuff with my friends and family at all.

I was in the process of making a movie. Would you be interested?

posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 01:26 PM
I would say none to the above, for anyone that claims that Ufo's are all from our goverment how do you explain art from the 15th centruty clearly depicting ufos?, Now on the theory that they are no Extra terrestials you are correct, however you must realise that there are inter terrestials, Beings that live underground that have been controling mankind and manipulating us for 1000s of years, they are our "gods" and are still manipulating us through the elite power strucure, Think about how many ufos sightings there are, do you really think that if these beings are from another planet that sightings would be so numerous? now I agree that we have what we call "alien reproduction vehicles" that have been manufactured by the U.S and Russia, but the amount of ufo sightings during the day time would squash the theory of a good portion to be these "alien reproduction vehicles" most black and grey flights are conducted in the dark and away from civilians, I say we must look down not up for our invaders are already here and have been here for a long long time.. I beleive this is a magicians trick as most movies are trying to make us look up when in fact they are right here..Do producers know whats going on? absolotely they are for whatever reason putting allot of info that they personally know into "movies" it could be for 3 reasons #1 public indoctrination, and or making the subject less real and turning it into "fiction" or tricking us into thinking our enemies will come from space when in fact our enemy is right here living among us and below us. , I just saw the movie THEY LIVE by John Carpenter(great movie) there is allot truth in this film, what struck me as amazing is theres a part where the beings are in some kind of portal, the man goes on to speak about how his not sure on how it exactly works but it has somthing to do with lensing gravity...Mind you this movie was created in 1988 and this theory is probaly only now being widely accepted as a means of going faster then light by bending space\time with lensed gravity.,movie was complete with ufos, underground military bases, theme of the middle class being systematically destroyed, interdimenional expansion at the expense of feeding off the human race,Elites, television being a programming device , sublminal messages in advertising, materialism, being a form of control... I can go on. I highly suggest you watch this movie, its available on the net..

Exerpt from X-Files

Episode 1: Deep Throat (OAD 9.17.93)
directed by Daniel Sackheim
Deep Throat approaches Mulder as he runs laps on a racing oval. "What you are looking for have been here for many years,"

posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 01:40 PM
Funny you mention "they live". I thought about that movie the other day and especially the part where they control the TV stations. The alien part of it though could be a metaphor for the elite. They have people everywhere working for them. And if you put on the glasses (insight and knowledge) you can see them. Just my take on it, because the whole alien thing, while it interests me, seems petty in comparison to things like CODEX ALIMENTARIUS and the like. I dont really care whos killing me aliens, the elites. It's the means in which they do it and how to avoid it that concern me. But I prefer to stay in the realm of what is known, so I think it is just your basic human elites.

posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 01:44 PM
Probably the best thread I've seen since I came on the forums.

I believe nearly everything though not so sure about what you say about Hoagland.

In the past decade he hasn't really been focusing on alien artifacts, but on hyperdimensional physics. His aim is to develop that branch of physics which connects the dimensions and is the source of life as we know it.

His theory also seems to confirm Leo Zagamis theory that we can evoke certain entities coming from other dimensions, evocations which are apparently performed by the illuminati.

[edit on 22-4-2008 by Estess]

posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 01:54 PM
I just thought about something. What about the so-called "Battle of LA"?

Also, the NASA videos of UFO's "running" from missle fire. I still remain 99% sure they remain at the back of the line. I just can't explain these incidents.

posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 03:25 PM
thanks for all the [dis] info.

ask yourself, what is it all for?
if all you say is true or nearly true, whats the point ?

what will a fake invasion accomplish? this brotherhood planning a fake invasion , why? are the members of this brother hood not humans? do they have something to gain, wont they die just like the rest of us?
ok... lets say, we someday get disclosure and know everythign we need or want to know about other beings, ETs etc... then what, so what?
wont we still be going in circles... what will be different about your life?

The New World Order can and will be defeated through a world wide awakening. Once the world’s population understands the information presented in this book, secret society rule will by necessity be phased out. As the populations awaken, the Brotherhood and their conspiratorial control mechanisms that have worked to enslave mankind for thousands of years will quickly crumble. We must shun secret societies and shame on their members. Shun the world’s “royalty,” their knights and vassals, shame on their spineless lap-dogs. It is high time for free humanity to make a stand. Support smaller government. Don’t buy their pharmaceuticals, don’t drink their fluoridated water, and don’t take their vaccines. Don’t eat their junk, genetically modified, nutrient starved food. Buy from local businesses and not from huge corporations and department stores. Don’t watch their “programs” or tune into their “channels.” Don’t buy into their “news,” their magazines, or expert opinions. Don’t be scared of their boogey-men, fall for their patsies, or accept their problem-reaction-solutions. Refuse RFID chips and the big brother surveillance society

and then what? we live happily ever after? wont we still be humans, with the same mentality, the same innate tendencies.. .? those members of those secret socities arent humans just like you nd i?
will we suddenly become peaceful nations and embrace eachother..?
does that mean there wont be any need for sites like ATS...
plz.. give me a break. i love the "hollier-than-thou" members .
how many times have i heard this song before, or danced around the same 2 steps...
just go about living your pointless lives..
keep holding your breath for disclosure, and "mass" awakenning etc and such...

with all due respect.
and if you cant show where you get your info from the external sources, dont post them, and dont send people searching. dont put a half -assed effort... perculiar how the ones your post is supposed to edify are the ones that are easily brainwashed. wait 'til the next clever guy comes along with another set of theory.. they will hapilly agree too.
--and dont chastise me for disagreeing with your posts and book.

[edit on 22-4-2008 by GavCg]

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