posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Beelzabub
Well it's my understanding of WMD of this type that it depends on the following.
1. are you using an ICBM or sub launched sort range weapon such as the
The ICBM carries varied amounts of war heads but on average the standard configuration would be as destructive as 500 times the strike on Nagasaki and
The average warhead in the US/Russian arsenal is somewhere between 150 - 750 Kt with the average being 350 in the US and 500 in Russia. Since the
Nagasaki bomb had a nominal yield of around 15 Kt these weapons are only larger by 10-50 times. I know the distinction might be lost on someone as
uninformed as yourself but it's a massive margin for those doing the damage estimations.
As we all know both cities where virtually laid asunder,and what was left was untenable. The remaining people had a 80 to 83% mortality rate,
those who survived passed on genetic defects to their descendants or where sterile.
As you might not know the people in normal air raid shelters DIRECTLY under the explosion ( which happened at a altitude of just a few Km's) walked
away unscathed proving that nuclear weapons are by no means as as utterly devastating as popular propaganda would have us believe.
Myth: In the worst-hit parts of Hiroshima and Nagasaki where all buildings were demolished, everyone was killed by blast, radiation, or fire.
° Facts: In Nagasaki, some people survived uninjured who were far inside tunnel shelters built for conventional air raids and located as close as
one-third mile from ground zero (the point directly below the explosion). This was true even though these long, large shelters lacked blast doors and
were deep inside the zone within which all buildings were destroyed. (People far inside long, large, open shelters are better protected than are those
inside small, open shelters.)
Many earth-covered family shelters were essentially undamaged in areas where blast and fire destroyed all buildings. Figure 1.5 shows a typical earth
covered, backyard family shelter with a crude wooden frame. This shelter was essentially undamaged, although less than 100 yards from ground zero at
Nagasaki.4 The calculated maximum overpressure (pressure above the normal air pressure) was about 65 pounds per square inch (65 psi). Persons inside
so small a shelter without a blast door would have been killed by blast pressure at this distance from the explosion. However, in a recent blast
test,5 an earth-covered, expedient Small-Pole Shelter equipped with blast doors was undamaged at 53 psi. The pressure rise inside was slight not even
enough to have damaged occupants' eardrums. If poles are available, field tests have indicated that many families can build such shelters in a few
The great life-saving potential of blast-protective shelters has been proven in war and confirmed by blast tests and calculations. For example, the
area in which the air bursting of a 1-megaton weapon would wreck a 50-psi shelter with blast doors in about 2.7 square miles. Within this roughly
circular area, practically all them occupants of wrecked shelters would be killed by blast, carbon monoxide from fires, or radiation. The same blast
effects would kill most people who were using basements affording 5 psi protection, over an area of about 58 square miles.6
Now the Tomahawk the pay load is smaller but easily 100 to 150 times WW2 strike capabilities but don't forget atmospherics after the primary
detonation you essentially have continued dirty bomb effects that is essentially on the wind going everywhere even over mountains.
It really isn't and some basic research would really help you to better understand both the capabilities and limitations of nuclear weapons.
If I'm not mistaken there is also a version of ICBM called the Trident that is like the little boy to the land based ICBM which for all
intent and purposes would be the modern fatman. The Trident is Sub Launched also and there are 2 versions with different payloads and capabilities but
like the Land ICBM they leave you one option bend over and kiss it good bye.
Yes, sure, but the Tridents can for practically purposes carry the same warheads as the older Minutement III's and with GPS and other navigation aids
they are more accurate.
2 The second most obvious thing that the results depend on I have already hinted to is Atmospherics. Essentially every aspect of weather
compounds effects , causing my dirty bomb type analogy to be affected.
1 You have wind which carries radio active dust and ash.
Anywhere wind goes your dirty bomb affect goes.
Effects which dissipate very quickly especially in as much as atmospheric bursts ensures that such particle's are carried aloft to altitudes from
which they may probably only descend when their effects have become relatively benign aside form inhalation damage for those who don't even bother
2 Soil and Exposed water way exposure.
Anywhere you have this you have exposure to underground water ways and aquifers which can carry your dirty bomb affects over 100s of miles in some
Thousands perhaps by which time they will have once again lost much of their affect. Stored water should be used in the first few weeks (anything with
a dust cover) but after that basic filtration will ensure that lasting damage does not occur.
3 Walking dead and wounded cross contamination.
Anywhere a human can go they are a radioactive dirty bomb themselves, their infections also give birth to an unknown number of biological mutations in
virological and parasitic pests.
YOu have been watching too many horror movies and i suggest that you stop doing that while attempting to discuss this very serious topic!
This as you may know goes without saying without advance samples we don't have vaccines or treatments, so they will run rampant before we can
SO what I'm trying to say is PUCKER UP! for short.
And while some attempt to find more excuses as to why world war three will never happen others are preparing them for a war that will surely in time
come. I am fascinated by this idea that human beings will become 'dirty bombs' in themselves as if it will be contagious! What will they think up