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Originally posted by yankeerose
No more anger, no more hate, no more arguing with those who just don't "get it". No more blame. Just personal responsibility, cooperation, and harmony with like minded souls. We can not resist, only make it through this situation.
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I Had Enough?
Am I the only guy in this country who's fed up with what's happening? Where the hell is our outrage? We should be screaming bloody murder. We've got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we've got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can't even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, "Stay the course."
Stay the course? You've got to be kidding. This is America, not the damned Titanic. I'll give you a sound bite: Throw the bums out!
You might think I'm getting senile, that I've gone off my rocker, and maybe I have. But someone has to speak up. I hardly recognize this country anymore. The President of the United States is given a free pass to ignore the Constitution, tap our phones, and lead us to war on a pack of lies. Congress responds to record deficits by passing a huge tax cut for the wealthy (thanks, but I don't need it). The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the guys in handcuffs. While we're fiddling in Iraq, the Middle East is burning and nobody seems to know what to do. And the press is waving pom-poms instead of asking hard questions. That's not the promise of America my parents and yours traveled across the ocean for. I've had enough. How about you?
Originally posted by Cpt. Monty
I'm glad to see people rallying together in a combined effort to "want" to bring down corruption, but...
How do you play on fighting against corrupt governments across the world? Honestly if you think marching on D.C. with some signs is going to change the world you are very wrong. If you are proposing full blown revolution than you may need to wait a bit longer...because taking a couple dozen guys from this forum and trying to take back the country for the people will only end in your rebellion being crushed and the government report saying that you guys attempted a terrorist attack against the United States (or any country you take up arms in).
You need to rally a bit more people....maybe a couple million more...at least.
Originally posted by ThePiemaker
Certainly, that's why you tug at the strings of religion to manipulate these fools into acting.
Originally posted by Myrdyn
reply to post by Cpt. Monty
The longest journey starts with a single step - and I don't know about anybody else, but I'm certainly not condoning terrorism, or any other kind of violence. That's a mugs game.
Originally posted by ANTHONY33
Originally posted by Cpt. Monty
I'm glad to see people rallying together in a combined effort to "want" to bring down corruption, but...
How do you play on fighting against corrupt governments across the world? Honestly if you think marching on D.C. with some signs is going to change the world you are very wrong. If you are proposing full blown revolution than you may need to wait a bit longer...because taking a couple dozen guys from this forum and trying to take back the country for the people will only end in your rebellion being crushed and the government report saying that you guys attempted a terrorist attack against the United States (or any country you take up arms in).
You need to rally a bit more people....maybe a couple million more...at least.
If we confront the oppressor with the same means they do they will squash us and thats a fact. waging war on them or carrying out Terrorist attacks or forming gorilla groups won't work as you will be quickly made example of. But remember inside those circles of power there are people whom are in the awakening stages also. The change must start within us and then it will emanate outward as light into a dark room the truth will become undeniable for all.
If you feel as strongly about this as I do then you will spread the truth and tell those to do also. If you can help only one you will have done a great deal.
Originally posted by Cpt. Monty
reply to post by Myrdyn
1. Bartering is outdated. Everything is purchased with currency now. You would get, essentially, nowhere, and be living a impoverished lifestyle quickly.
Of course it's outdated, but it worked very well for thousands of years. At present it would be impossible to forget about money altogether. I'm merely suggesting that where possible it could be avoided.
2. Using less fuel, via bicycle or walking or what have you is a great goal, I agree, but in this modern age, vehicles are becoming more and more necessary as cities and populations expand.
If you need to, fine. If it can be avoided, even better. Not everyone lives in big cities. Anyhow, I live in a fairly large town and at rush hour you can get around just as quickly on a bicycle - It beats all the traffic jams.
3. We should be a bit more aware of what we eat, but just because one person stops eating a particular food that is in short supply doesn't mean it will change things for the better.
This is simply a case of habitual eating and paying whatever is demanded for it. If the price goes up because of a shortage, switch to something else. The price will go back down. You will be in control.
4. Good goal to have, it will make your lifestyle better, but once again, in the larger scheme of things in terms of societal change, will do nothing.
Regarding the over-full freezer - This is an initial small stab at reducing over-consumerism and general waste of resources.
5. I agree, association with family is nice.
6. Weapons are feared by many, but getting rid of firearms just to live a better, peaceful life, will not stop the burglar from shooting you! Keeping a sidearm or any weapon for defensive reasons is not a bad thing.
Let's hope these nasty burglars read this thread. If you feel safer carring a weapon, then so be it. Nobody is telling you what to do.
7. Avoiding violent things would be nice, but violence isn't only found in video games and movies. Have you watched the news in the past 7 years?
I was in the British Army for 22 years. I know what violence is and how it can affect people.
8. Never fly anywhere? Some people have demanding, long distance jobs. Taking a boat or train isn't an option. Not to mention those take longer than flying, the convenience of flight is amazing.
Convenience is part of being dumbed down. If you have to fly, fine. If you don't, don't.
9. Having a garden is a great idea, but once again the convenience of having someone else grow vegetables for you, and the lack of time for becoming a farmer for some people just makes it easier to buy produce at a grocery store.
Convenience again. Yes it is easier.. What is it JFK said about flying to the Moon? We are going, not because it is easy.. etc. He was a nice man, but apparently not very convenient.
10. Watching Television all of the time is a bad idea. Your goal here is a good one that is actually possible for anyone to partake in.
11. Like number 10, this one is a bit more feasible and realistic, a good goal. (Although having to wait 20 minutes for the light bulb to actually light the room is a pain!)
You're exaggerating a little.
12. Good goal to have, family time is precious.
13. Apologizing to those you've offended/hurt is always a good plan, but this will not help a large number of people in anyway.
Not trying to help a large number of people. Just you.
14. Baking is a nice skill to have, but we have bakers and stores for the convenience of not having to do it for ourselves.
There's that 'C' word again. Want to be Mr Nice or Mr Convenient?
15 & 16. Neither of these will help the world, but have the potential to inspire others to do good like yourself, but it probably make a large dent in society.
17. Getting rid of personal prejudices is a good goal too, but other people aren't going to change just because you do. Environmental factors, especially in older generations, have stuck to people.
18. Staying away from drugs and alcohol is okay, but some people have alcoholism in their blood, so not everyone can abide to this as well as others, once again environmental factors can make decisions for people here.
Not aiming this at 'some people'. I agree, everyone should be free to make their own decisions.
I don't mean to put a negative twist on your goals by the way, I'm just posting potential counter arguments to them, albeit brief. I do respect anyone who decides to live by your goals however.
Originally posted by ANTHONY33
I think if you guys read the book you will have a better understanding. You are thinking in 3D terms which wont work when the route of the problem is controlled at higher levels so there for must be met with a deeper level of intent above the third dimension.
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'PLEASE READ THE HANDBOOK BEFORE MAKING ANY MORE ASSUMTIONS'
[edit on 22-4-2008 by ANTHONY33]
Originally posted by Cpt. Monty
Before I even begin to read your handbook, I propose a question to you. Does the handbook not make assumptions?
(Also I probably won't have much time to read through this handbook considering my busy schedule.)
Well according to George Green and whom gave him that information it's not assumption. The book is free for all that wish to read. If you feel you have more pressing matters to attend to that is your will.
[edit on 23-4-2008 by ANTHONY33]
Originally posted by ANTHONY33
Originally posted by Cpt. Monty
Before I even begin to read your handbook, I propose a question to you. Does the handbook not make assumptions?
(Also I probably won't have much time to read through this handbook considering my busy schedule.)
Well according to George Green and whom gave him that information it's not assumption. The book is free for all that wish to read. If you feel you have more pressing matters to attend to that is your will.
[edit on 23-4-2008 by ANTHONY33]
Well then who exactly is this George Green guy? And where exactly did he and whoever gave him the information get the information?
Also, I just opened the PDF and scrolled down a bit and started reading a couple bits and pieces of the text here and there, and the whole time I couldn't help but get his vibe as if it was trying to convince people just to get a cult following for the "New Paradigm." I also don't understand how exactly this "New Paradigm" is going to change the world for the better in anyway if all it promotes is doing only as you must do and letting everything "evil" fall apart (as I interpreted in No. 22). That would take much longer than we have time for, and a bigger change is bound to take place before corrupt governments stop functioning simply because people stop going out of their way to help it. I realize peaceful resolutions are always the best, but if you hope to inspire change in national/international governments and corrupt sectors in society, sitting lazily as a group to do nothing, is hardly doing something.l
Please correct me if I'm misinterpreting this in anyway. I also assume that you have a 100% understanding of the text yourself since you were the one who gave it to us to have a peek at.