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Why is the Sabbath celebrated on Sunday, the First Day of the Week??

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posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 06:35 AM
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Question:

It seems odd that Christians celebrate the sabbath on the first day of the week. It is my understanding that God rested on the 7th day, which is Saturday.

I know the Jews still keep Saturday as the sabbath, as prescribed by the Ten Commandments.


When did this change for the Christians, and why?




posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 06:59 AM
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Originally posted by nathraq
Question:

It seems odd that Christians celebrate the sabbath on the first day of the week. It is my understanding that God rested on the 7th day, which is Saturday.

I know the Jews still keep Saturday as the sabbath, as prescribed by the Ten Commandments.


When did this change for the Christians, and why?


You can thank Constinene for that. He claimed he converted to Christianity but he was a in the closet sun worshipper. He wanted to unify to roman empire by mixing different aspects of different religions. Hence worshiping on sunday.



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 07:29 AM
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If you are seeking a background history into the 'how' and 'why' the Sabbath was moved from Saturday to Sunday, you can find some decent historical material at any good Seventh-Day Adventist site.

I'll see what I can dig up, but till then, I encourage you to investigate this also.




regards
seekerof



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 05:36 PM
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I have wondered about this after all isnt one of the comandments remember the sabbath and keep it holy?

Wouldnt that mean that most christians are breaking the Law?



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 05:40 PM
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thanks for bringing this up....it's another question I had about what Christians chose to believe and how they follow the bible.



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 06:12 PM
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DaTruth hit it right on the nail.

Constantine was no Christian at all. As a matter of fact, he was the man who corrupted the religion of Christianity and the results are present day Christianty, especially Catholicism.

He mixed his religion Paganism into Christianity.



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by nathraq

Question:
When did this change for the Christians, and why?


The Catholic Saint Csar Constantin the Great ordered that at the same time the Bible canon also went through his all seeing eye of a needle. In the end he liked his creation (the Catholic Church) so much that he even let himself baptise just before he died, and gave everything he owned, which was the Roman Empire, to the Bishop of Rome. Who just a little later changed his title to Pope, aquired the Csarian title Pontifex Maximus and started ruling like the Sun and Lucifer. A little later he coronated Clovis I of France to be his emperor for ever, more or less the exact same pact God gave Solomon. After that the shroud of Turin surfaces, and it seems this shroud belonged to noone else than Clovis I if you believe in painted portraits like the one displayed below:



It was at the same time nearly every idol of Jesus came to be made strictly after the geometry of the shroud, there were probably guilds based on the holiness of the shape of the face, and now Mel Gibson and the Pope and this actor want to throw this movie uppon the fire together with everyone watching it. Sounds great! Not.


Blessings,
Mikromarius

[Edited on 26-2-2004 by Hamilton]



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 08:42 PM
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it was probably is a pish posh publicity stunt to get people to think he was kool and all



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 08:47 PM
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why is it that some calendars have sunday first but some with sunday last?

this brings up a whole new topic.

on calendars with sunday as being first, wouldnt friday and saturday be the weekend, not sunday seeing how its the weekbeginning??? AHHHHHHHHHHH



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 08:51 PM
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hmm thats true and in the lunar calender there are sometimes 15 months



posted on Feb, 26 2004 @ 09:36 PM
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wednesday is also observed in some catholic ommunities...anybody know why? i was raised catholic and was told why once, but i cant remember



posted on Feb, 27 2004 @ 06:12 AM
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ash wednesday? no meat?



posted on Feb, 28 2004 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by Scat
why is it that some calendars have sunday first but some with sunday last?

this brings up a whole new topic.

on calendars with sunday as being first, wouldnt friday and saturday be the weekend, not sunday seeing how its the weekbeginning??? AHHHHHHHHHHH


ALL I CAN SAY IS YOU ARE HEREBY NOMINATED AND MOTION PASSED



posted on Feb, 28 2004 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by Amuk
I have wondered about this after all isnt one of the comandments remember the sabbath and keep it holy?

Wouldnt that mean that most christians are breaking the Law?


well there's dogmatic law, whatever we hold true here on earth god will hold true in heaven.



posted on Feb, 28 2004 @ 09:59 AM
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The vast majority of Christian tradition are actualy pagan in origin. Many thatnks to the Romans/COnstantine.

Christmas is on the winter solstice, an old pagan celebration time. There is even the decoration of a tree, a symbol of nature. (obviously there weren't many pine trees where Jesus and christianity originated). In addition, best historical guess places Jesus' birth day on September 8th, 3BC, Not December 25th, 1AD.

Easter is the spring fertility festival with bunnies and eggs! Why? Bunnies, eggs, and lots of sweets? Cause that was you do on a fertility festival! Bunnies hump constantly... Eggs are the first stages of a new life, and you eat cause the winter id over and there is food growing again, and you need your strength to mate and bare children.

There is actualy a movement in many Christian sects to stop keeping up these pagan traditions, but most of them still keep the days they are on anyways, simply because you can't really tell which days they actualy took place.

Other things Christians still keep from the old pagan religions include Angels from the Roman god Nike and all the winged messenger demigods of the romans. And also Hell or Hades, the firey pits you'd be thrown in as punishment.

I'm most amused by angels myself. Over the last 20 years there was a whole angel craze (at least in the states) with little cute baby like cherubim and lots of personal guardian angels. Ancient text including the bible paint a VERY different picture of angels. Angels are the first race created by god, they include fun things like 6 heads, 3 faces, the jobs of raining fire and destruction, and even swords to kill eachother. Then again those were back in the day where god was wrathful and into smiting the evil.

Its stuff like this that makes me think religion is a human creation more than reality. Mind you, thats religion, or specificly organized religion. Where you can see the evolution of beliefs and traditions.



posted on Feb, 28 2004 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by Scat
wednesday is also observed in some catholic ommunities...anybody know why? i was raised catholic and was told why once, but i cant remember


Wednesday was the holy day of Odin btw.

Blessings,
Mikromarius



posted on Feb, 28 2004 @ 09:35 PM
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Constantine was no closet Sun Worshipper. He was an out and out follower of the Sol Invicta cult.
The reason he is credited as a Christian is because he converted on his death-bed. He probably didn't have much choice in the matter either.

Constantine was probably the biggest exponent of Christianity merely because of his scheme of tolerance. He realised that a religious war was the last thig that he needed so he put an end to persecution of early Christians. In return, the Christians adopted some of the Sol Invicta dates for their calender.
You have to also remember that Jesus was not born anywhere near the date of 25th of December and that this was the feast day of the sun god Mithras.

As an interesting side note, Jesus didn't seem to worry too much about the Sabbath. He broke Jewish law a couple of times by healing people on this day and the authorities viewed this as work.
Jesus replied to them with one of my favourite lines from the Bible - Man was not made for the Sabbath. The Sabbath was made for man.



posted on Feb, 29 2004 @ 12:15 PM
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Jesjuah didn't break the Law about the Sabbath. He broke the Talmud doctrine allright, but not the Law. Well, one could actually argue whather he broke Talmudian law also. Remember who he is firstly, he is the priest of God. He is the Messiah. The holy priest king. What he can and cannot do on the Sabbath is it him who decides.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

[Edited on 29-2-2004 by Hamilton]



posted on Feb, 29 2004 @ 12:34 PM
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When the Jewish armies and the tribes cross Jordan under Josva's command they come to Jerico. Here Arch Michael appraches Josva with his sword, the fiery one, and tells him to take off his shoes and walk on the bare ground maybe in order to generate static electricity in order to use the Ark as a generator to produce a lightningbolt with it. But there's also something else, which I think is a much better sollution. They walk around the city many times, attracting the attention from the people of the city inside, and you can bet that every morning they start walking and blowing the horns around the city, more and more Jericans gather one the wall, until it finally colapses. Maybe that was the message back to Josva from the spies, that the wall was poorly supported?

Blessings,
Mikromarius



posted on Feb, 29 2004 @ 01:04 PM
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The answer is actually none of the above, and the answer is quite simple.

Christians celebrate their "holy" day on Sundays because when Christianity was just developing in the first century, it was customory for both Jewish and non-Jewish Christians to gather on the day of the resurrection, which was the day AFTER the Sabbath. They did this to distinguish the importance of their beliefs as being identified with Jesus' resurrection.

It was not until many centuries later that Christians came to (erroneously) call their religious day the Sabbath. It is not, and any Christian who tries to insist that you cannot work on Sunday because it is the Sabbath is ignorant. Saturday is the Sabbath, but Christians were not obligated to observe it, in particular the non-Jewish converts to Christianity.

The New Testament, on numerous occasions, mentions the fact that they congregated regularly on the day following the Sabbath.

[Edited on 29-2-2004 by SassyFella]




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