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I do know there are some twisted people who are obsessed with having had a daughter or a son. A good friend of mine was mistreated and abused as a child because she wasn't a boy and her mother hated girls.
Imagine you woke up as someone you didn't want to be. Imagine you were in spiritual pain every day you woke up. Imagine that persisting indefinitely. Making a mistake about what body you belong in is exactly as painful as being stuck in the wrong one.
If you progressively saw your body decaying from some incurable disease, your skin turning scaly or some such... and knew it affected how everyone in the world looked at you and perceived you, would you not feel terrified of what was happening to you?
It is one thing to claim abhorrance to the sensibilities and culture of the day, it is another thing to realize that by eliminating the option you are ensuring that someone, somewhere gets murdered because some guys decide that the girl who looks too much like a dude needs to be murdered for hitting on their friend.
and it's happened. Do some research in the matter. I am all for caution and oversight for this hospital, and some level of scrutiny concerning their practices... but I am also for such hospitals existing to give options to people.
I would hope you would as well, if only to alleviate the suffering of people poorly misunderstood and feared.
Originally posted by TheColdDragon
It is very easy for people who don't know any transsexuals to state, "I think they should wait until adulthood before doing anything about it," Without realizing that in the eyes of a lot of transsexuals, Adulthood is far too late for anything and they'd have to live with ridicule and scrutiny until some ignorant homophobe killed them for confusing their sexuality.
Originally posted by TheRedneck
I wonder if anyone has considered psychological help for these children? The mind is much more malleable than the body. So, and forgive me if I am somehow showing my ignorance here, if there is a sexual disagreement between the mind and the body, why not change the one that is easiest to change? That would appear to be a more sound principle than stopping puberty through drugs, introducing hormone therapy to change body characteristics, and later on perform surgery.
At least with psychological treatment, there is no additional threat from 'mundanes'...
Originally posted by Rasobasi420
From the OP article
The effects of these puberty-blocking drugs are reversible; that is, patients can later change their minds. Unfortunately, this is not the case with hormones. Therefore, Spack prescribes estrogen and testosterone to only a few teenagers - after months of consultation with the patient, his or her caregivers, and psychiatrists. When kids take this step, they are rewriting their own future: The hormones have a powerful, pervasive effect, changing their height, breast development, and the pitch of their voices.
The initial program is reversible. Then, only after an extended period of consultation with parents, the teenager AND their psychiatrist. That means it's not left only in Dr. Spack's hands, but also with an outside psychiatrist. There are many levels of redundancy that would prevent the child from making a rash decision, and the parents from making an uninformed decision. And, Dr. Spack won't perform any permanent change without a psychiatrist agreeing.
This is not always something that can be fixed by asking about people's relationships with their mother. And, since the option is completely reversible there shouldn't be any issue with it.
And please don't misunderstand my sympathy for those who need this procedure with my own sexual confusion. I'm pretty secure in who I am, and only wish that others can be as well.
Originally posted by TheRedneck
Oh, please tell me that this was said tongue-in-cheek. There is much much more to psychiatry than asking someone about an earlier relationship with parents.
If I have given you the impression anywhere on ATS that I am concerned with your sexuality, please forgive me. I am not, and have no intention of becoming so concerned. That is your business, and I share your last sentiment.
Now as to your main argument:
I do understand that this treatment is done is stages, the first of which are said to be reversible. But what good will that do for anyone who supposedly 'needs' this treatment? As I see it, this is like a drug dealer offering a few hits off a joint to get someone's interest. "No charge, no obligation, just try it. You might like it."
And psychiatrists, doctors, and parents can be fooled by a child who is dead-set on getting what they want, especially when the adults' minds are clouded with thoughts of profit, worry, or fame... or even a misplaced yearning to 'help'.
From an earlier post, you implied that an individual arguing that those who are transgendered deserve recognition and respect were themselves transgendered.
Parents may be fooled, sure. They're not always that bright. But I think you're giving psychiatrists and physicians too little credit. After months of therapy even a rookie psychiatrist can identify genuine transgendered individuals from a faker. It's their job. And even the most dead-set child couldn't fool a trained psychiatrist, and that is the primary person who would need to agree with this procedure.