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reply posted on 20-4-2008 @ 12:32 PM by _Del_
Originally posted by Blue_Seven
First off, the curvature of the earth. there are two easy examples of this. First of all, the numerous pictures taken from space of all faces of the earth, and from high-altitude aircraft, all of which show curvature, if not the various parts of a sphere itself. Second, when watching a ship leave port, you will notice that the bottom of the ship is the first to disappear, followed by the top parts of ship. the only explanation is the curvature of the earth.


Because sustained space flight is not possible (how would a space ship float above earth?) we can hardly claim that photo evidence from space is a smoking gun. Clearly NASA fakes pictures to show a round earth.
The bottom of the ship disappears first because the atmosphere is thicker at the surface and thins at altitude. When seen through many miles of atmosphere, the air at the horizon is thick enough to diffuse light so it "disappears" That is why you still see the top through the thinner atmosphere.



Second of all, the idea of night and day doesn't really hold up. the most compelling argument I've heard is, I believe, from you, saying that it is a result of constructive and destructive interference. Very eloquent. the problem lies in the fact that to have localized destructive interference, one would have to have uniform light waves inverse only in their periods. as it stands, the radial light rays emanating from both the moon and the sun are too jumbled to actually create noticeable sections of destructive interference, mostly because the sun's rays are much more intense than those of the moon. Even if the rays were equal in their amplitude, the pattern of radiation from the sources would create a curved checkerboard patter of interference. (think of a wifi symbol superimposed on another facing the other way.)

The interference is the cause of lunar eclipses and only happens very rarely. The sun and moon circle the north pole roughly half way between the pole and the ice wall. The sun is small and only shines on part of the discs surface.


Third, travel wouldn't really work in the sense that satellites wouldn't be able to orbit the earth North-South, and explorers of the south pole trying to find the pole would be baffled by a strip of ice millions of miles long. and speaking of, how does the south pole even exist? or the north pole, for that matter.

Satellites don't orbit the flat earth. The south pole does not exist. It is a figment of the round earth. The north pole is the center of the disc. It is easy to circum navigate the world. It happens almost daily. Perhaps you are familiar with the great circle route.

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Also, how would the flat model of the earth account for people in the US seeing certain stars in the summer, while at the same moment, people in South america (presumably on the same plane/frame of reference) see a completely different part, and how would it account for the seasonal change of the night sky?


This is the best question so far and is explained by the fact that stars are rather small and are relatively close, much like the sun and moon. In fact they are only a few hundred miles beyond them.


Just in the interest of argument, please explain the concepts of day and night, seasons, and orbital satellites more clearly.

Good arguments, btw. keep them coming.


There is already a diagram showing the seasons and solar/lunar position in this thread. For the last time Satellites can not float, so they do not orbit. Some functions we think are performed by satellites are actually performed by high altitude blimps.


reply posted on 20-4-2008 @ 12:37 PM by thedigirati
reply to post by _Del_



I was not talking about NASA, but the Military, I was on ship when the measurements were taken, I sent the msg about our findings, it was my Job in the military as a communications specialist.

Measurements are taken annually, for accuracy reasons.

Edit to add, explain the eclipse (lunar and solar) again? and retrograde motion of planets?

[edit on 20-4-2008 by thedigirati]



reply posted on 20-4-2008 @ 12:39 PM by jkrog08
reply to post by logician magician



Im not even going to finish reading this RIDICULOUS thread..........are you just trying to get points?I call for no one to star or flag your post-and further more to stop responding.

I mean ARE YOU SERIOUS??


Did you just time travel from the middle ages?

Simple physics totally DESTROY your bogus theory.


If the Earth was flat--------wow...........I cant believe Im discussing this in the year 2008.You do know it is impossible for a body in space to form in a flat form right?Gravity compresses everything into a shperical shape.

Oh and you see the moon and sun athe same time sometimes due to the orbit of the moon and earth.


Please someone show me ONE known example of gravity forming a flat shape in space.JUST ONE.


I suppose the stars are holes in heaven right?
OMG.........WHAT ARE YOU ON?


No,I didnt fly up to space and "see for my self"but I know my cell phone,satillite tv,gps...........etc work just fine.

If you really think NASA or the gov. would lie about that,or could cover it up...............you are totally out of reality.


I will not even waste my time saying anything else....................ROFLMA
I want to say so much,but I will just shut up now.


reply posted on 20-4-2008 @ 12:46 PM by logician magician
Originally posted by _Del_
Originally posted by Earthscum
When a bit of liquid is put into a zero-gravity situation, it propagates itself ito the form of a sphere, or a form resembling a sphere. In 'space', the earth would have done the same thing.

seriously, Explain how there is no edge? Flat indicates that there should be an edge somewhere. I'm seriously just utterly confused by the vague logic in OP.


Are you suggesting the earth is a liquid? I'm somewhat confused by your unorthodox position, but I'm willing to listen.

There is an edge to the earth. You obviously have not viewed the map.

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I was going to say the same thing. There is an edge, but It it surrounded by an ice wall (or not, I've never been there), but it is more likely that an icewall exists to keep the water from falling off the side, and the coriolis effect dictates that you will advance toward the center of the disk when walking in a perceived straight line. This would make walking around antarctica forever impossible as you would eventually come to the shore and perceive that you had come upon some barrier - the shore.

You can basically see the truth of the situation if you look at the United Nation's logo (i.e. prototype NWO). Hidden in plain sight, like everything else. :@@


reply posted on 20-4-2008 @ 12:48 PM by _Del_
Originally posted by thedigirati
reply to
post by _Del_



I was not talking about NASA, but the Military, I was on ship when the measurements were taken, I sent the msg about our findings, it was my Job in the military as a communications specialist.

Measurements are taken annually, for accuracy reasons.

Edit to add, explain the eclipse (lunar and solar) again? and retrograde motion of planets?

[edit on 20-4-2008 by thedigirati]


Since sustained space flight is not possible, how would we place reflectors on the moon? I really have no reason to believe lasers were bounced off the moons surface. Even if you were able to, have you considered the moon might be an Einstein Bose concentrate that slows the speed of light, trapping it before releasing it? Couldn't the difference in time be accounted for by the moon's curvature?
In a solar eclipse the moon travels in front of the sun. In a lunar eclipse, the from the sun reflects of the moons surface like normal. The earth also reflects the sun's light onto the moon. Under certain rare conditions the trough of the light wave from one, meets the peak of the other cancelling eachother out.
Planetary motion (retrograde or otherwise) is accounted for by the same physics round earth theory uses.


[edit on 20-4-2008 by _Del_]


reply posted on 20-4-2008 @ 12:54 PM by Earthscum
Originally posted by _Del_
Are you suggesting the earth is a liquid? I'm somewhat confused by your unorthodox position, but I'm willing to listen.

There is an edge to the earth. You obviously have not viewed the map.

i42.photobucket.com...


What spews from a volcano?

YES, that is exactly what I'm saying... our earth is a liquid ball of iron with a crusty top... just like a cheese casserole! ...only resembling a sphere instead of sitting in a dish.


reply posted on 20-4-2008 @ 12:58 PM by logician magician
Originally posted by Earthscum
Originally posted by _Del_
Are you suggesting the earth is a liquid? I'm somewhat confused by your unorthodox position, but I'm willing to listen.

There is an edge to the earth. You obviously have not viewed the map.

i42.photobucket.com...


What spews from a volcano?

YES, that is exactly what I'm saying... our earth is a liquid ball of iron with a crusty top... just like a cheese casserole! ...only resembling a sphere instead of sitting in a dish.


Lava has nothing to do with the Earth being round or flat. It is quite funny that you would magically transform a casserole into a sphere, however. The same magical transformation happens the further we leave the surface of the Earth.
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