I can't believe I'm reading this...

How do satellites orbit then? How does one sail around the world?

So, are geosynchronous satellites just hovering like a helicopter or what? coz that's kinda impressive if they are...

Please. Give me a break.....



[edit on 20-4-2008 by more_serotonin_pls]

Originally posted by scepticsRus
Now thats really pushing logical thinking _Del_ well done....thats quite a fantasy trip your taking there.

No i have not orbited the planet, but i have been on a plane and i have also seen the curvature o the earth over the horizon.

k, I will stay where i am ... you walk off to the horizon and if i see you disappear from sight then the earth must have a curvature.

.... please proove me wronge.

Why can't the atmosphere diffuse light as more air passes between us and make it appear I disappeared from sight?
And if there's anything I've learned on this forum it is that the conventional world model has a higher burden of proof than the lunatic fringe one. This is simply an exercise in critical thinking.

Originally posted by scepticsRus
Some simple math will tell you the angle of curvature from your location and the location of the north star.
Some simply geometry will allow you to mesure the cirfumfrence of the earth as well ....

The earth is not a perfect sphere either, it is flattened at the poles this means that the strength of gravity is affacted at those areas.

.... please proove me wronge.

You are not understanding it correctly. Their is no real Earth surface curvature because its just refraction due to the atmosphere and gravity. It's an optical illusion.

You can measure the circumference disc, can't you?

This thread really is taking "stupid" to a new level. You really believe that the earth is flat?

oh, and by the way .... dont even think of using religious writings to prove your argument. Your ideas are pushing the limits of sanity ... and thats putting it lightly.

If you really truly believe that the earth is flat then there really is no hope for you .... sorry ......

Originally posted by more_serotonin_pls
I can't believe I'm reading this...

How do satellites orbit then? How does one sail around the world?

So, are geosynchronous satellites just hovering like a helicopter or what? coz that's kinda impressive if they are...

Please. Give me a break.....



[edit on 20-4-2008 by more_serotonin_pls]

Put a DVD in front of you, and imagine something orbiting the planar disc. It just orbits around like a needle on a record player. For geosync satellites, imagine that the record is moving the same speed as the needle.

I'm sorry logician magician, I'm more the hollow earth type guy...lol j/k..but its sure more interesting....

I see where your going at but come on. But, your imply that the earth is as thin as a crust. So if we were to dig a few miles we'll be able to get to the other side.

Not to mention how gravitational field of earth won't be evenly distribute and how that might effect the rotation moon and relative distance of the moon and the earth. How would the earth be able to rotate on its axis? Also why would you also say the sun and all other planets in our solar system is flat?

[edit on 20-4-2008 by skyblueff0]

Originally posted by skyblueff0
I'm sorry logician magician, I'm more the hollow earth type guy...lol j/k..but its sure more interesting....

I see where your going at but come on. But, your imply that the earth is as thin as a crust. So if we were to dig a few miles we'll be able to get to the other side.

Not to mention how gravitational field of earth won't be evenly distribute and how that might effect the rotation and relative distance of the moon and the earth. How would the earth be able to rotate on its axis?

My flat earth model has no such problem. The earth is a cylinder. You can't drill deep enough to get to the other side.

Earth does not create a gravitational field and does not rotate on an axis. Your question is moot.

Originally posted by logician magician

Originally posted by more_serotonin_pls
I can't believe I'm reading this...

How do satellites orbit then? How does one sail around the world?

So, are geosynchronous satellites just hovering like a helicopter or what? coz that's kinda impressive if they are...

Please. Give me a break.....



[edit on 20-4-2008 by more_serotonin_pls]

Put a DVD in front of you, and imagine something orbiting the planar disc. It just orbits around like a needle on a record player. For geosync satellites, imagine that the record is moving the same speed as the needle.

I don't think sustained space flight is possible. "Satellites" are simply high altitude blimps.

Master, I have just learned a terrible truth:

There is a Flat Earth Theory AND a Flat Earth Society!!

Their slogan is: "Deprogramming the masses since 1547"

[url=http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm]



Well, now I have heard it all - ATS is being 'deprogrammed' of everything it ever knew.



Any tangible evidence of this theory or is it just a theory? Any pics. without the gravitional effects on the earth? Surely the sun would shine on anything that is flat all of it at one time?

Well, it is Sunday afternoon, I might as well relax and enjoy it while it is here.

Originally posted by Breifne

Any tangible evidence of this theory or is it just a theory? Any pics. without the gravitional effects on the earth? Surely the sun would shine on anything that is flat all of it at one time?

Well, it is Sunday afternoon, I might as well relax and enjoy it while it is here.

If you read the thread you would know the earth has no gravitational field in the flat earth model. The sun is very small and much closer than a round earth sun. It is not big enough or far enough away to shine on the whole earth at the same time. Please consult the model provided.

Originally posted by logician magician
Einstein has proven long ago that there is no absolute frame of reference. I don't know why someone would force themselves to travel in a circle around antarctica when the disc Coriolis effect gives everything a propensity to travel toward the center of the disc.

Not to mention the ice wall.

It would make traveling to the edge impossible.

oh .... my ...... god

please someone wake me up ... i'm having this weird dream that these guys keep trying to tell us that they earth is flat.

k, you guys prove to the rest of us using mathematics ... not drawings/graphics or flights of fantasy that the earth is in fact flat.

remember, you want to put forward your argument so its up to you to prove it and not for us to prove otherwise.

give us mathematical proof of :-
- proof the earth is flat
- how gravity works on your model
- how orbital physics work based on the flat earth.
- how eclipse's work on your model.

we're all waiting on your resposes...... no rush !

I can't believe someone still believes that the earth is flat

But hey, thanks for the laughs

so according to your model antartica dosent exist? would it be impossible to fly from LA to china going under the planet intesd of a east west axis? im sorry but a round earth does make perfect sence to me, there is nothing wrong with the round earth theory and the fact that we precieve a curviture makes us believe it more. Wouldn't we also notice a kind of "off orbit" in the satalites going AROUND the earth. Please let me know how u would explain the satalites and also wouldnt we precieve the earth differantly from differant angles....

[edit on 20-4-2008 by tylerc25211]

Originally posted by scepticsRus
oh .... my ...... god

remember, you want to put forward your argument so its up to you to prove it and not for us to prove otherwise.

give us mathematical proof of :-
- proof the earth is flat
- how gravity works on your model
- how orbital physics work based on the flat earth.
- how eclipse's work on your model.

we're all waiting on your resposes...... no rush !

--Please provide proof the earth is round
-- Earth has no gravitational field in the flat earth model
-- Sustained space flight is impossible in the flat earth model
-- a solar eclipse is caused by the moon passing in front of the sun.