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The 2008 Elections Will Be Stolen

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posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 04:34 PM
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Hmm, wouldn't suprise me in the least if it DID happen, as it seems to be the status quo now...Although the Election was ALREADY stolen when they shafted Ron Paul and all of America earlier...Now it's just selecting from a list of special-interest caterers that the Elite have chosen for us to pick from...But McInsane is the biggest war-monger of the 3 by far, so the M.I.C. may push for his nomination over the other 2---He equals big profits to them.



The 2006 elections saw the most widespread and sophisticated election fraud our country has yet seen, combined with the greatest public confidence since 2000 that elections were honest and verifiable. That combination does not bode well for 2008.

The views of Senator John McCain are so far from those of most Americans, that Miller rightly refers to the Republicans as a fringe party. But that fringe party is perfecting election theft. The only way to prevent John McCain from being the next president would be to hand him such a whopping defeat that he could not plausibly claim to have honestly won. Sadly, Senator Obama (the Democratic nominee, barring an antidemocratic coup by super delegates) appears intent on avoiding a landslide at all costs and aiming, rather, for a tight victory of 1 or 2 percent. (And Senator Clinton appears intent on losing the election should she be miraculously nominated.)


Full Article
www.opednews.com...




posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 05:05 PM
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I have heard no one wanting to vote for any of these three.We can steal back this election by a write in vote for Ron Paul.



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 05:25 PM
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The irony of it all... off killing others and our own forces dying, all in the name of democracy... and we are the farthest thing from being one ourselves. I don't think even Sadaam's regime was as corrupt as our current keepers of this government.

Yo, daddyroo -- I think I have the guy who can...


... hand him (McCain) such a whopping defeat that he could not plausibly claim to have honestly won.

*Maybe* wishful thinking, but anyone wanting the name, send me a U2U.

[edit on 4/19/2008 by RabbitChaser]



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 07:39 PM
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For a candidate that only appeals to 4% of the republican voting population (and maybe 2% of the liberal populous) I think its fair to say the elections are not rigged because Ron Paul is not in any longer.

I must say I am impressed by the internet hype started up by his campaign, very effective indeed and at least it brought his name out in recognition, too bad the internet has not been around enough to be integrated enough into the real world.

If you all want to do a write in vote, that’s great and shows loyalty, but remember that either way one of these three candidates will come into the presidency and your risking one of the three candidates you most dislike to be voted in, so your vote could used for a more useful Purpose.

SG.



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 09:05 PM
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Recent poles are showing that either Clinton or Obama against McCain is almost 50/50. First of all, I find these poles hard to believe, but the author is right. An election can be rigged if it is close enough. The voting machines or other tactics used can influence the outcome of an election, but if the vote is too far away from the exit polls, it would be declared suspicious and investigated.

The only way to insure a victory against McCain is for an overwhelming majority to vote for whomever is the other choice. This is why voter turnout is important. I know some are jaded at the election process and say they won't bother with voting, but for now it is the only means we have to make our voices heard. During the primaries, if you may not have noticed, the democrat turnout is double the republican. This in itself tells me how the election should go, but we will have to see.

The author also claims that Oboma could improve his position by leading a vote against the funding for the Iraq war and that charges should be brought against Bush and Cheney. I am not so sure. Everyone including myself was disappointed when Pelosi said they would take impeachment off the table if Democrats won the majority in 2006, but if they had said that they would go forward with impeachment, I think that would have a backlash, and some people would have voted against democrats just for that reason.

People think that the economy is Issue No. 1, but I think the 2008 presidential election will come down to a vote on the continued occupation of Iraq. Unfortunately, I think the PTB will insure that no matter who is elected, our troops will maintain a presence in Iraq for years to come, but we shouldn't make it easier for them by allowing McCain to be elected.



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 09:42 PM
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What are you talking about, Ron Paul is still running for the Republic race.
I hope you are not depending on TV for your information.
Please go to this link to find out what Ron Paul is doing .
www.dailypaul.com...
You will find that he is still running for the President.



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 09:48 PM
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I hate to burst your bubble, but Paul is not going to win the 2008 election. A write in vote for Paul is a vote for McCain.



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by cashlink
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What are you talking about, Ron Paul is still running for the Republic race.
I hope you are not depending on TV for your information.
Please go to this link to find out what Ron Paul is doing .
www.dailypaul.com...
You will find that he is still running for the President.


Oh yes sure Ron Paul is in, but his not the nominee which means he no longer has a chance to win the presidential race.

Why would I want to go to a link that is most probably bias to the candidate? Arnt you doing the exact same thing you people claim to be against? Bias? I see the reality things here, read my comment above again and consider using your vote for a candidate still in the race or you may end up with somebody you really did not want.



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 10:12 PM
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ugh, how this does frustrate me so...
Ron Paul wont win... they wont let him. Ill definately write his name in though... I dont understand why so many people will refuse to even simply look at what he has to say.

yeah, clearly the election will be stolen again, to whomever will fulfill the desired agenda of the elite.
But what can we do? SCRAP it! and start over.

DD- i admire many of your posts!



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 10:16 PM
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Where does this guy get his data? He cites no references. As we say where I'm from, PIX OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 10:19 PM
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There is a link to the source in the OP's very first post.

Deny Ignorance.



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 10:21 PM
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reply to post by wisefoolishness
 


I'm talking about the source.



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 10:25 PM
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I think deminsionaldetective knows enough about the reliability of the sources he/she posts from seeing as he/she posts them so much.



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 10:29 PM
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Well, I don't know DimensionalDetective, or the fellow he cites as a source. Therefore, their words alone are not good enough for me.



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 10:33 PM
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The article is an Op/Ed piece, which references are not usually required.

I cannot speak for the rest of the country, but if you are interested in how the election was stolen in my state of Ohio, you only need to do a little research.

g oogle search: ohio election stolen 2004

Ohio was the state that gave Bush the election in 2004, and was anything but fair. We were switching over to the new touchscreen voting machines, and our EX Secretary of State, Kenneth Blackwell oversaw the distribution of the new machines and areas with a republican majority received more machine per capita than democratic areas. They were short so many machines in several counties that local courts ordered the polls remain open three hours longer, so that people waiting in lines for hours could vote. There were several people who did not wait in line, so they were essentially kept from voting. This was one of the many tactics used to steal the election in favor of GB in 2004.

[edit on 4/19/2008 by Hal9000]



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 10:41 PM
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Good find Hal9000,
i too live in ohio, and its good to see fellow citizens doing thier research...
i didnt doubt the fact a stolen election took place, but never did the research for it.
This is why ATS is wonderful-however, too many hostilities on here.

keep up the good work brothers and sisters



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 10:47 PM
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As was pointed out earlier, the real theft occurred when the American people were forced to choose from these 3 bozo's. At this point, the difference between the three is minimal.

Let's face it, the next president will have to deal with the money pit in Iraq. But they will have their hands tied thanks to Bush, so we won't be getting out. It doesn't matter who the president is, we will have a long term president in Iraq. The next president will have to face the issue of our collapsing economy. None of them seem particularly qualified for the job. So, then you have health care. Even if Obama or Clinton get elected, I don't think congress will agree with their socialist healthcare plans. Our country can't afford them anyways.

So it all comes down to who do you want to see give the state of the union addresses and who do you want to see represent us on the world stage. We are screwed no matter how you shake it.



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 11:00 PM
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Hello neighbor. I recommend everyone in Ohio and the rest of the country to read the following book.

Amazon.com: What Happened in Ohio: A Documentary Record of Theft and Fraud in the 2004 Election

This is a record of the research used in the lawsuit Moss vs. Bush that did not make it to court, but was the best attempt at bringing the truth to light.



posted on Apr, 20 2008 @ 12:50 AM
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Hey thanks for that link. I never even knew about this book. I think I'll be buying this.



posted on Apr, 20 2008 @ 09:09 AM
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Anytime a Democrat loses an election, the election is stolen. Therefore the 2008 election will be stolen. Democrats have set themselves up in an ideal situation. Win the election, and the American people have stood up and voiced their opinions. Lose the election, and the election was stolen.

Your local 5 year old would be so proud!



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