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Gigantic alien structures in Herschel crater - Apollo 12 image

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posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 04:03 PM
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I have discovered this fantastic clear image of the Herschel crater on the moon, taken by the Apollo 12 mission. The crater is 40 km in diameter, so the structures inside it must be gigantic.

I believe the structures are artificial, not natural.

The image can not be found at Apollo Lunar Surface Journal (I wonder why...) but I found it at a site called Sky Image Lab. Link to the site: www.skyimagelab.com...

Here is a cropped version of the image AS12-50-7431:




Direct link to the full image: nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov...


Best regards. Ziggystar60.




posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 04:27 PM
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Yes, there certainly are large structures there, but nothing other than entirely natural ones - it's really no different to any other large crater:

www.thunderbolts.info...

lvo.wr.usgs.gov...

nasadaacs.eos.nasa.gov...

woodshole.er.usgs.gov...

All of those have various matter in the bottom of the craters, but nothing to suggest any artificial structures..

[edit on 19-4-2008 by Stoo]



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 04:38 PM
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Hi, I have looked at the images you provided links to, and I agree that these structures look natural. But I think the structures in the particular Apollo 12 image that I posted, doesn't look natural at all. That is my opinion anyway, and that was why I wanted to share the fantastic image with the members here at ATS.

Best regards, Ziggystar60.



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 05:19 PM
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It is NOT a natural structure.Some sort of ramp.Good find!The whole area is very interesting.Just my opinion.Honestly don't care what the professional debunkers think.Their having fun debunking things...good!



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 05:27 PM
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Thank you for your comment! I am well aware that most people are not capable (or perhaps not willing?) to see anything unusual in the images I have posted here or in my other threads. And that is quite all right with me - but I still think it is important to make the images known. Myself, I had no idea what amazing things I would find when I first started studying the images from our beautiful and mysterious moon.

Best regards, Ziggystar60.


jra

posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 06:03 PM
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I'm not seeing anything artificial looking. Could you circle what exactly looks artificial to you? Have you looked for other image of the crater, just to make sure it's not just light and shadow making it appear artificial to your eyes?



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 06:10 PM
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*Sigh*

I thought there would be something to see.

This is like rock watching on Mars.

I'm sorry, I see a crater and a dune-type mound.

Show me a shinning city or maybe something metallic, then I would be impressed.

*Sigh*



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by jra
I'm not seeing anything artificial looking. Could you circle what exactly looks artificial to you? Have you looked for other image of the crater, just to make sure it's not just light and shadow making it appear artificial to your eyes?



Hi, I have cropped the image just so I wouldn't have to circle it.
the structures are inside the outline of the crater itself.

The only other image I have been able to find whichs also shows the structures, can be found at Wikkipedia. (Search for Herschel lunar crater.) You can see the strange structures there too, but this image if of poorer quality. Take a look for yourself:

Link: upload.wikimedia.org...

Best regards, Ziggystar60.



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by IMAdamnALIEN
*Sigh*


Show me a shinning city or maybe something metallic, then I would be impressed.

*Sigh*


Believe me, I would love to show you a shining city or something metallic to impress you.
I am sorry I have disappointed you. *Sigh* And I fully respect the fact that you don't see anything unusual in the image I posted.

Best regards, Ziggystar.



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 07:12 PM
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I don't see anything un natural either, no matter how hard I squint at it.

Sorry ZiggyStar60 you and your sock puppet Silversurfer6161 are not showing any real evidence beyond you personal 'desire'........

jra asks you to circle your perceived 'structures' and you give him an even wider view thats farther away......



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 07:30 PM
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I didnt see to much unnatural either but in stoo's post of photos I did see something unnatural. It looks like roads to me please tell me this is not on another planet:

lvo.wr.usgs.gov...

Hilda


jra

posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by ziggystar60
Hi, I have cropped the image just so I wouldn't have to circle it.
the structures are inside the outline of the crater itself.


Well it would still help if you cicled the specific bits you think are artificial.

Here's another one with little to no shadow. I'm still not seeing anything out of the ordinary.
www.hq.nasa.gov...



posted on Apr, 20 2008 @ 01:59 AM
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AS12-50-7431



Image Collection: 70mm Hasselblad
Mission: 12
Magazine: 50
Magazine Letter: Q
Latitude / Longitude: 15° N / 11.5° W
Film Type: 368
Film Width: 70 mm
Film Color: color
Feature(s): ERATOSTHENES


www.lpi.usra.edu...

The hi-res image is now available here
eol.jsc.nasa.gov...



Crop from the hi-res


Herschel is a complex crater, and what we see inside it is the central peak.
The shape and the distribution of the central peaks are subject to several different variables,
like impact angle, strenght of the impact, composition of the soil etcetera.
For this reason you won't never find two identical composite craters.



An example is Bessel


Another one is Euler


Another one is Copernicus


Another one is Tycho


There are MANY examples


The central peak is an ordinary feature in the larger craters,
and the central peak of the one of the OP doesn't look less ordinary than the other ones i've seen so far in lunar craters.


[edit on 20/4/2008 by internos]



posted on Apr, 20 2008 @ 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by theRiverGoddess
Sorry ZiggyStar60 you and your sock puppet Silversurfer6161 are not showing any real evidence beyond you personal 'desire'........



Hi, I get the fact that you don't see anything unusual in the image I posted, but I was just wondering - why do you call Silversurfer6161 my "sock puppet"? Why do you belittle this ATS member in that way? Doesn't Silversurfer6161 have just as much right as you do to post a comment in this thread? And for the record, I don't know this member any better than I know you.
You really seem quite desperat when you have to go to personal attacks instead of just giving your opinion. It is absolutely no problem for me that you and I don't agree on this subject, I just would like you to show people some basic respect.

Best regards, Ziggystar60.



posted on Apr, 20 2008 @ 05:39 AM
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Hi, and thank you very much for your long and informative comment. I will also thank you for giving me your opinion without any kind of personal attack.
I understand that there are many craters on the moon with large and strange formations in them, and in the images you posted, I agree that the formations look quite natural. It is just that in the particular image I posted from Apollo 12, the structures doesn't seem natural at all to me.

So we just have to agree to disagree on this subject, and I totally respect you opinion.

All the best to you from Ziggystar60.

[edit on 20-4-2008 by ziggystar60]



posted on Apr, 20 2008 @ 05:54 AM
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I see a crater????



posted on Apr, 20 2008 @ 06:00 AM
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So do I. A crater with gigantic artificial structures in it.

But thank you anyway for taking a look at the image I posted, I just want people to be aware of these features. It is of course up to each person to form their own opinion about them.

Best regards, Ziggystar60.



posted on Apr, 20 2008 @ 07:33 AM
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But don't you think there's an obligation to support your claim when you start a thread? It seems like your threads always go the same way - a picture of an obscure rock followed by multiple requests by members to explain your claim that you never really address, except to say it's your 'opinion'. I'm pretty sure if I posted a picture of a housebrick and claimed it was an alien artifact, I'd get a warning for baiting or trolling. If I did it in every thread I'm pretty sure I'd be banned in a hurry. I don't see any difference in what you're doing.



posted on Apr, 20 2008 @ 07:48 AM
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Are you serious? Do you really think that I should be banned from this forum because I have posted images that I think will be interesting to look at for the other members? Perhaps you can give me a guideline to what kind of threads I am permitted to post? What kind of images am I allowed to post, in your opinion? What kind of subjects I have your personal permission to talk about or discuss?

And by the way, it is impossible for me to say excactly what these structures are, or what purpose the have or may have had. I am a human being just as you hopefully are, I have never been to the moon, I have no idea what kind of technolgy an alien rase may have. All I say is that I think the structures are artificial, but it is quite all right with me if you think otherwise. I will never put anyone on a ignore list or pick them as my foes just because we disagree about something.

Best regards, Ziggystar50.


[edit on 20-4-2008 by ziggystar60]



posted on Apr, 20 2008 @ 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by ziggystar60
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Are you serious?


Yes, I am serious. After a page of responses it's obvious you don't intend to to even indicate what's supposed to be different about this crater than any other. The thread starter does have an obligation to explain their claims, purposely avoiding it is a clear sign that you're just trolling and wasting everybody's time.

Don't bother with the rest of the fluff, I don't care what images or topics you post but how you post them. It's a discussion board, if you won't even tell us the reason you started the thread, what's to discuss?



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