New Pictures of the Michigan Dogman? (And another look at the Gable Film) , page 2
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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 08:23 PM by Voidmaster
I see nothing in those pictures except swirls of color roughly shaped like sections of the Gable footage, and the only way I can rationalize why you're saying things they way you are is that you automatically assume that absolutely EVERYONE already knows what you are talking about.

As far as the tape, I'm rather stumped myself. It looks and moves like a gorilla most of the time we see it, but that leg that pushes it up from the ground after it jumps looks distinctly canine.

Maybe its just an optical illusion and we're simply looking at a particularly angry gorilla, though that begs the question of what a gorilla is doing in Michigan.

Then again, it could have also just been a film taken in Africa, and we're assuming it was recorded in Michigan. If so, then this case appears to still be singular if only because it shows a seemingly unprovoked gorilla charging someone and appearing to attack them.

Any way you dice the video, it appears to be something worth doing research into, though I'm not exactly sure if one could be successful in doing so.

I doubt it's fake for several reasons:

1. This film was recovered in a time before digital film existed/became popular(It had started to be developed in the late 80's, but it only caught on in 98). Therefore, it couldn't have been digitally altered.

2. It can't be a person in a suit, because of the way the creature moves. When it jumps sideways all four of its legs leave the ground and then land again. This would require legs(or a back structure that made up for this) the same distance from your hips as your arms are from your shoulders.


Thats my analysis anyway. If I'm incorrect in anything I have said, please correct me.
It's been a while since I stepped into the Cryptozoology forum at all, and it feels great to be back into the discussion.


reply posted on 8-5-2008 @ 12:23 PM by ZikhaN
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Someone said in the old thread that there is a zoo with gorillas close to that place


reply posted on 11-5-2008 @ 06:13 AM by Jon1117
"In my opinion there IS a human leg in the first few seconds of the film.There is also an obvious tail as it charges, and when it bites the camera there is an obvious pharynx.

If you freeze it in the correct places, there are also ears, an eye, and a jump.

Firstly, the Human legs.:
As the video progresses the legs seem to fold in on themselves and disappear.(Almost like the creature has changed forms)When the creature is charging, you can freeze frame and see the hind legs which no longer look even remotely human.

Second, the tail:
In the beginning there is no visible tail.As it begins to charge, however, the tail is clearly visible.

Third, pharynx:
Which obviously could be fake, but it is also something every mammal needs to survive.

Fourth, ears and eyes:
The ears and eyes are inconclusive, as most animals posses them, and I’m not going to bore you with my own opinion.

Fifth, the jump:
This, in my opinion, could be the most significant part of the film.I challenge anyone in the world to run and jump, lifting all of your limbs completely off of the ground , land properly, and continue a charge.(On your hands and knees of course, as the above article suggests a hoaxer has done.)

Finally, as I know most of you are thinking, I am not crazy. If you want to get technical, you believe that there is a large great ape species living all over the world that,(1) Has never been captured,(2) Has never left any confirm able (IE, not fake able) evidence( hair, blood, bones, ect.), and (3) is only seen on a clear day in an open field when you have a grainy old camera in your hands.

I simply think that there are intelligent, maybe even “human”, creatures out there.

(1) Why has no one captured one?Who knows whether they have or not.Would somebody report capturing a “person” to the authorities?

(2)Why is there no confirm able evidence?Maybe there is, but its disguised, per say. Would you report finding dog tracks around your home?What about human tracks, or maybe deer tracks…See what i mean?

Why is there no videos or pictures of it? How do you know there aren’t.Why don’t you search for humans on Google Pictures, or maybe bears, or cats even.

I am simply putting forth a theory, which in my opinion holds a lot more “water” than the standard bigfoot views.I don’t doubt that people see hairy, unknown creatures all around the world, or that they have for thousands of years.I doubt that these creatures are big, mainly bipedal gorillas that are smart enough to evade capture by even the most sophisticated methods. "


This is something that I posted on cryptomundo, a while back.Sorry about the bigfoot bashing, but people can get a little abrasive when you present them with a theory they disagree with.So you kinda have to learn to fight back instinctively.

Any way, I posted this in response to a thread on the gable film, and I thought it might be relevant here.I also realize that some people before me, have posted similar things, but I assure you, when I posted this on cryptomundo, I hadn't ever heard of this site.


reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 12:56 PM by Genus_Unknown
This is a very interesting subject. I had heard about the Michigan Dogman, and the website and the pictures from the OP are fascinating, regardless of their authenticity (everyone loves a good story, right?).

Just a thought here, but what if this entity was actually a
'Tulpa'? I'm new to this particular phenomena, but I read a couple of books recently by British author Nick redfern who mentions this quite often. I thought this may play a part in this?

thoughts?



reply posted on 27-9-2008 @ 06:50 AM by Anonymous ATS
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hey hows things,
the only thing that ouzzles me is the second photo, the rest can be made up, but the snout and the k-9 teeth are odd. the k9 teeth seem to be very crooked and upside down.

aside that i dont know.

I dont know whether the dogman is real, but its interesting.


reply posted on 30-9-2008 @ 02:21 PM by fox_3000au
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If you were in that position...wouldn't you just shut the door, wind up the windows and keep on filming??

(Maybe lock the doors, incase the thing had opposable thumbs)

Like the music but... adds dramatical effect.

Cheers, Fox.


reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 10:11 AM by Anonymous ATS
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This is just an ordinary dog! But the first picture, showing the scary eye, is obviously fake.
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