reply to post by jkrog08
But I thought the amount of dead in the Iraq and Afghanistan war was over 4,000?
Over 4000 is the death toll of allied soldiers in Iraq alone.I'm not sure how many have died in Afghanistan.
The civilian death toll for Iraq varies between 90,000 and over 600,000,depends who you believe.Either way,its an unacceptable (and tragic) amount
when you consider that this invasion of Iraq was to free the people not slaughter them!
I have 2 friends out in Iraq and recently recieved a letter off one of them.It seems that the powers that be have passed an order that forbids all
military personel from telling friends or family just how many soldiers/civilians have been killed or wounded.The order came from a US general but
whether it applies to all soldiers or just the Americans i don't know.
All i can say is,from what i've been told from people who are actually there,Iraq is going to hell in a hand basket.Troops are running out of
supplies,they have faulty equipment,they don't know who the real enemy is,too many leaders giving different orders to the same squads,etc etc.
Its a sorry state of affairs;probably more so if you think of this new order that has been given.
What makes us a "hyperpower"s the fact that in ANY major conflict we have been victorious and that still no other major nation threatens us or has
the want nor the capability to,plus our economic influence(still,even with oil prices).
Have you not noticed that Iran has only been showing a display of defiance because of Americas attitude?
Before the US politicians started shooting their mouths off Iran had no care for America or Iraq.But now,Iran is being backed into a corner and has
been forced to make a responce.
If 9/11 was the start of a war by Islamic fundamentalists don't you think they would have a back up plan?
If you can pull off something as big as 9/11 then you're gonna have something just as dramatic and damaging set in place in other western
countries.But these fundamentalists don't.Apart from a few relatively small attacks there has been nothing of true substance.And isn't it strange
how the US had suffered no more attacks.
You would also expect these countries to be prepared for Americas reaction to 9/11,you would expect them to be armed to the teeth,but they aint and
that just doesn't add up!
And,as i showed in an earlier thread,you have never been victorious in a war own your own.Battles from the 2 world wars maybe,but never a war.
This makes all the difference in how people see your military might.
Many countries have the capability to take you out.
Attack the head and the body dies.
If your government can be got to,and you are left without any leaders,then you are as good as defeated.
Its very simple and highly effective.
The American public also need to know that Iran is not like Iraq,it is a country that is making changes in its own time and on its own terms.It may
not be a perfect place and it has laws and attitudes we oppose,but the fact that they are learning,that they are willing to change,shows that they are
not the "...backward,lawless,fundamentalists prone to terrorism..." people the US government likes to paint them as.I would say Iran is similar to
how America and Britain were up to the Victorian era.
[edit on 7-5-2008 by jakyll]