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Official Account of 9/11 Flight Contradicted by Governments Own Data

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posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 03:45 PM
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So what does that say about the U.S Governments report i wonder?


I thnk someone is not telling the public the truth




posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 03:50 PM
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No wonder you're off form and not playing - you're spending all your time on here.

Jeez andrei



Back on topic, it makes the government version a blatant lie.

If 100% accurate.



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 08:26 PM
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Here's Calum Douglas's Flight 77: The Flight Data Recorder Investigation Files presentation on Google Video. It features the NTSB animation showing the altitude and trajectory of the plane inconsistent with a strike upon the light poles. It also includes the raw flight data recorder file decoded by Pilots for 9/11 Truth which curiously shows a different path - a path consistent with the plane striking the light poles.

The raw data file contains the radar altitude omitted from NTSB's animation. This accords with the pressure altitude indicated in the animation which is too high for a collision with the light poles or the Pentagon.

See also Pandora's Black Box - Chapter 2: Flight of American 77



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 09:00 PM
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First of all, EvilAxis....the video of Calum Douglas is at the Indian YMCA! At someplace called Fitzroy Square?

OK, done laughing now....guess he gets a lot of real attention...

The opening sequence, of the video, is referencing a crash of an A320, in 1998.

Unsubstantiated claim that the 'black box' (his term) was faked....


Firstly, it is not a 'black box'. It is bright orange, and the serial number is connected to the airframe in which it is installed. AND there are two of these so-called 'black boxes'....one is a DFDR, and one is the CVR.

So, now, we are talking about two 'bright orange boxes'.....

One records audio, one records digital data....

The A320 that crashed into the ground was on a demonstration flight, to show it off. The pilot, although a top-notch Airbus test Pilot, did not fully understand the software built-in to the FBW system....this crash meant they went back to, re-design the commands, and re-educate the 'users'...that means the pilots.

The concept behind the 'low and slow' fly-by was to prove that the airplane was stall-proof. OK, well and good, proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Thing is....the software expected to be in landing mode, when the Radar Altimeter sensed the close proximity to the ground....at this stage, the pilot could do two things....disconnect the auto-throttles, or push the G/A button, to initiate a Go Around. (Of course, that's how Boeing designs the systems....not sure what EADS/Airbus does on their airplanes)

Anyway, the pilot tried to advance the throttles, and got no response, according to his testimoney. Hence, the airplane did not accelerate, but flew into the trees and crashed.

Did the pilot think to dis-connect all of the autoflight components? Apparently not.

Blame it on the autopilit? Well, wanna save your job? Muddy the waters as much as possible........

[edit on 4/22/0808 by weedwhacker]



posted on Apr, 23 2008 @ 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
the video of Calum Douglas is at the Indian YMCA! At someplace called Fitzroy Square?


You employ an ad hominem attack on the venue instead of the person. Novel! He discussed the findings at several locations and on the radio but what relevance does that have to anything? Perhaps the official story should be dismissed out of hand because it emanates from that notorious purveyor of lies - the U.S. government?



Originally posted by weedwhacker
Firstly, it is not a 'black box'. It is bright orange, and the serial number is connected to the airframe in which it is installed. AND there are two of these so-called 'black boxes'....one is a DFDR, and one is the CVR.


Well spotted - the DFDR and CVR which in common aviation parlance are known as "black boxes" for obvious reasons are not actually black, as we can see in the video. (If they were, the F.B.I.'s claim not to have recovered any from the WTC might be slightly more credible). Nor are airplanes actually made of air. The Pentagon however, is pentagon-shaped.


In aviation, the term Black Box refers to the flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder responsible for recording the last minutes of an aircraft flight. The phrase has become popularized by modern media while reporting aircraft crashes, despite the fact that the devices are usually not black.

Wikipedia: Black box



Originally posted by weedwhacker
The opening sequence, of the video, is referencing a crash of an A320, in 1998.
Unsubstantiated claim that the 'black box' (his term) was faked....



the renowned Institute of Police Forensic Evidence and Criminology (IPSC) of Lausanne (Switzerland) examined documents from the crash and the trials and concluded that the black box of the aircraft had been switched after the accident. Along with its report, the IPSC published photographs of a French Directorate General for Civil Aviation (DGAC) official retrieving the black box from the wreckage of the aircraft. After enlarging, a photograph shows straight white stripes on the side of the black box. The black box presented at Mr. Asseline's trials as the original one had angled white lines on its side.

AirDisaster.com Investigation: Air France 296

But let's not "muddy the waters", as you put it, by discussing the first 12 seconds of the presentation referencing the Airbus A320-100 black box switch. Let's return to the substance of this thread - the inconsistency of NTSB's Flight 77 data.



[edit on 23-4-2008 by EvilAxis]



posted on Apr, 23 2008 @ 08:30 AM
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Your point about the serial numbers is pertinent.
Of all major U.S. airline crashes within the U.S. investigated and published by the NTSB during the past 20 years, the 9/11 'black boxes' are virtually the only ones without listed serial numbers.

[edit on 23-4-2008 by EvilAxis]



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