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Military Officials Investigating Strange Lights, Sonic Booms

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posted on Apr, 17 2008 @ 01:26 PM
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Greetings Forumerions,

It seems that F-16's and military flares are the "cookie cutter response" for the unexplained re UFOs . . . here's the latest near Fort Wayne Indiana:




Mystery boom, lights near Kokomo



INDIANAPOLIS – Loud booms and strings of flare-like lights that brightened the sky two nights in a row over north-central Indiana may have been F-16 fighter jets on training missions, an Indiana Air National Guard official said Thursday.

The booms shook houses in the Kokomo area about 10:30 p.m. Wednesday, frightening residents and prompting Howard County police to search for a downed aircraft, said Larry Smith, the county’s emergency management director.


The rest of the story . . .

[edit on 17-4-2008 by Frank Warren]




posted on Apr, 18 2008 @ 07:52 PM
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Hello Frank! Thanks for the report


It may interest you to know that a group of ATS researchers live in Indiana, and are coordinating their investigation efforts in this thread:
www.abovetopsecret.com...'

I'll post a link there to your thread if one does not already exist



I was a witness to a strange sonic boom of unknown cause in San Diego.
I was the 'web-based conspiracy theorist' in question:

[Among bloggers and Web-based conspiracy theorists, one of the leading explanations for the San Diego disturbance is that the military is testing a top-secret spy plane called the Aurora, which supposedly can travel several times the speed of sound.

“Sir, I've never even heard of that plane before,” an Air Force spokeswoman in Virginia responded when asked about the possibility. ]Source:
www.signonsandiego.com...

The author of the news article in the Union Tribune, Alex Roth, was pretty much a jerk. He didn't really investigate the Aurora plane at all. And he was very rude, which is not a good trait in an investigative journalist, IMHO.


Anyway, I thought I'd share. Thanks for this report!

-WFA



posted on Apr, 18 2008 @ 08:14 PM
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Hey folks. Yep, it's been a crazy week in Indy. One of the posters in the Indiana thread caught some very interesting video which is in the possession of mufon now, and he claims to have more. We shall see.

Witness, I've heard quite a bit about the Aurora, even saw one photo, but who knows if the picture was genuine or not. But reading your post reminded me of a tv docu. I watched where a meteorlogical satellite photo of the U.S. clearly showed one single vapor/contrail from the west coast to the east coast. It was one of the most intruiging things I've seen and for the life of me cannot locate anything about it and can't remember what program it was. This thing had to have been hauling a** because the vapor trail did not diminish one bit at either end. I always suspected that it had to be the Aurora. Well, now I'm in the mood to start looking for that again.

Rush



posted on Apr, 18 2008 @ 08:19 PM
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Well, I for one believe it, because I witness that often.

I live on an Air Force base and we are having Red Flag right now. Well, today was the last day.

And the Aussies decided to show off and break the sound barrier a few times....therefore causing earthquake type reactions - house shaking, sounding like a bomb going off (that sonic boom sound), etc. I thought we did have an earthquake...in fact was chatting w/ a friend during it and mentioned it. Next day I found out what it was.

I have also seen flairs too.

So, again, I totally believe the reasons given because I experience it first hand


[edit on 18-4-2008 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Apr, 18 2008 @ 09:19 PM
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If sonic booms are heard during UFO sightings, then there are terrestrial aircraft involved.


Real extraterrestrial vehicles don't create sonic booms.



posted on Apr, 18 2008 @ 09:31 PM
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This quote from my above referenced article seems to agree with you:
[Even UFO experts are baffled by what happened in San Diego. Asked whether a flying saucer might have caused such an event, Peter Davenport of the Seattle-based National UFO Reporting Center said, “Probably not.”

“UFOs almost never generate sonic booms or shock waves,” he added. “They accelerate so rapidly that they leave a vacuum in the sky, much the way lightning does.” ]

In the San Diego case, the Navy was also contacted and there were no aircraft in the sky at the time (reportedly) that could break the sound barrier. But of course, the Aurora wouldn't be disclosed, especially if it was a test flight.

-WFA

p.s. GreenEyedLeo, nice you see you again! We've been frequenting different threads lately.
My girlfriend loves your avatars. I think she's going to draw me one in that style


EDIT:
I almost forgot to mention, Kokomo could easily be on a flight path out of Wright Patterson in Ohio, and there are other military bases in the area as well. END EDIT

[edit on 18-4-2008 by WitnessFromAfar]



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 11:42 AM
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Good Day WFA, et al,


Originally posted by WitnessFromAfar
Hello Frank! Thanks for the report


Your welcome!


It may interest you to know that a group of ATS researchers live in Indiana, and are coordinating their investigation efforts in this thread:
www.abovetopsecret.com...'

I'll post a link there to your thread if one does not already exist


I wasn't aware of the other thread . . . thanks!

The recent "sightings," accompanied by "sonic booms" of course "could be" explained by "training exercises" in the MOA near Grissom Air Force Base; however, the "training excercise/flare drop" answer seems to be the "cookie cutter" response from the PTB to all things "out of the ordinary, re UFOs etc.

The MOA encompassing Grissom AFB is in populated areas and exceeding Mach 1 is a "no-no." Moreover, "flare drops" aren't done at that speed. It's all very peculiar.

Of course now we have the coincidental "earth quakes."


I was a witness to a strange sonic boom of unknown cause in San Diego.

I was the 'web-based conspiracy theorist' in question:

[Among bloggers and Web-based conspiracy theorists, one of the leading explanations for the San Diego disturbance is that the military is testing a top-secret spy plane called the Aurora, which supposedly can travel several times the speed of sound.

“Sir, I've never even heard of that plane before,” an Air Force spokeswoman in Virginia responded when asked about the possibility. ]Source:
www.signonsandiego.com...

The author of the news article in the Union Tribune, Alex Roth, was pretty much a jerk. He didn't really investigate the Aurora plane at all. And he was very rude, which is not a good trait in an investigative journalist, IMHO.


Anyway, I thought I'd share. Thanks for this report!

-WFA


I received some UFO reports in February (from San Diego) in which the PTB gave a "conventional military explanation" to which the witness adamantly rebutted. There were of course the sonic booms in San Diego in 2006 as well.

Cheers,
Frank



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 01:12 PM
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I don't think that it can be proved that UFO's "do not" cause sonic booms. Its also possible that the military jets reached "boom speed" while chasing something. Whatever happened smells and wreaks to high heaven. I would imagine that if flares were going to be used at night there would be some type of warning to area police depts.



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 11:26 PM
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Hello All, the last 2 nights have been quiet, cloud cover.I see Maryland is now having huge sightings, some caught on web cams around Baltimore I think .I am a little disturbed after listening to the ScanKokomo archives for April 16 during the boom. Something really wreaks high heaven, alarms are going off all over Howard County, even the fire department right before boom and they said they were having this problem all week as well as businesses and homes. Is this EMF ?. All week I had observed these strange sightings so I have to wonder. Some officers had info they would only relay by phone, Some went to Softtouch and what really bothered me was when a dispatcher said Grissom security has confirmed all planes were accounted for and on the ground at least 30 minutes before boom. Then later in the archives, an officer ask again for dispatchers to call and confirm with Grissom and ask if they had training exercizes going on and check all airports and lifeline. The dispatcher relays that Grissom security had stated again, that all their planes were accounted for and they contacted Fort Wayne and they did not have any planes out or doing exercizes. So I guess you believe what you want. The night after the boom, I captured more footage and I guess it was f-16's again with flares. Give me a break. They must think all people are so gullible. Several people have filmed and photographed something that night, before and after. Several prominent people also are involved with actually seeing and relating their experiences and they still want to convince people it was an f-16. I guess the National Guard should now explain what health risks are associated with their lack of concern for public safety for a 4 county dropping of so called flares before, during and after the sonic boom, and they made the same mistake the night before in Logansport. What kind of flares are they using that are deep amber disc or balls, 3 to 4 in grouping,does not burn up and hover for hours, and then descend down to become as huge as a car and display beautiful solid colors while stationary above the ground and put additional shows on by turning on in sequence patterns, is the public health at risk? Any National Guard, or military people on this forum to help clarify what health risk are associated with these new un-heard of flares ? Will try to upload my shots this week-end. I don't know how long mufon will have my tape, but I can't wait to see what they find out.



posted on Apr, 20 2008 @ 08:55 AM
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sequence,
looking forward to uploading of more pix. As I have said it has been a couple years since I have seen this phenomenon..But your description is pretty much on the money >>
What kind of flares are they using that are deep amber disc or balls, 3 to 4 in grouping,does not burn up and hover for hours, and then descend down to become as huge as a car and display beautiful solid colors while stationary above the ground and put additional shows on by turning on in sequence patterns, is the public health at risk.

However, I never saw them hover. They were progressing in a given direction however they would blink out then others would reappear quite a bit behind where the group of say 3/4 were. Also they were not usually in a straight line so they didn't appear to be nonrocket driven flares simply towed by a plane.

I was wondering if this phenomenon inspired your use of "sequence".



posted on Apr, 20 2008 @ 10:30 AM
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The booms could be from over excited pilots jazzing it up.

Jets are seen with UFOs as escorts and nothing else.

Only boom from a UFO is the possible Bell Island, Newfoundland event
of a luminous flare from UFO motors that touched the ground and
electrified the island like Tesla did to Colorado Springs.

Electrified air is a secret of the UFO motor.

Heard Colorado Springs is a growing community, are they hoping to
plug their electricity into the ground like Tesla.
Ground to air electricity, sure that will work but an airborne static
phenomena apparently makes things fly.



posted on Apr, 20 2008 @ 03:57 PM
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Hi Sequence,

I too listened to the police logs . . . very exciting stuff! I was intrigued by the initial report of a "debris field."

If what the commander of the 122nd Fighter Wing in Fort Wayne says is true, then the 122nd is derelict in duty in a major way. Breaking Air Force and FAA regulations two nights consecutively to this degree doesn't seem plausible! I don't believe they're that incompetent.

If this was a training mission as stated, not only were the F-16’s outside the MOA, the exercise took place during a prohibited time period. Moreover, even within an MOA, F-16’s are prohibited from going “supersonic” during training missions.”

On top of that, all air traffic in a controlled airspace i.e., an MOA, is monitored and supported by ground communications, navigational aids, and ATC services; why then when emergency services contacted both Grissom AFB and Fort Wayne International Airport Air Guard Station before midnight on Wednesday did they “deny” having any aircraft aloft?

Additionally, since the event I have read, heard and talked to people with that have had similar experiences to your own.

This is starting to sound a lot like Stephenville, with the exception that with the quicker "admission" by the PTB, they took the media out of the equation. (They're learning).

Cheers,
Frank

P.S. Just finished part 1 of an article detailing the event found here.



posted on Apr, 20 2008 @ 04:29 PM
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What are the chances of something originating from the ground to the sky rather than something falling from the sky?



posted on Apr, 20 2008 @ 08:11 PM
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Your mention of a possible debris field got me to thinking. There is actually more than one way to create what might be observed as a sonic boom. Not only could a high velocity do it, but so could an impact event where the impactor detonates above the surface. I'm thinking Tunguska but on a smaller scale...

At any rate, is there any report as to where this debris field was located? We could pull up some google pics of the area and see if there are potential signs of impact.

-WFA


[edit on 20-4-2008 by WitnessFromAfar]



posted on Apr, 21 2008 @ 09:59 AM
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Yes, WitnessFromAfar, I had a friend call to tell me she heard on the ScanKokomo scanner that someone was requesting additional help for a possible brush or field fire in a town called Scircleville, I have no idea where this community is. As soon as I got off the phone, I glanced out my window and seen about 5 camoflauge trucks and a camoflauge truck with a crane or hoist on the back. and I live on state route 26 and they were heading east toward 31. This could of been a coincidence, but this was early morning day after the sonic boom?



posted on Apr, 21 2008 @ 10:13 AM
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That's wierd! You probably know quite well that the small town of Kokomo doesn't get heavy military activity often.

You're quite right that such activity would be trackable with a police or fire scanner. My grandfather was at one time Fire Chief in a VERY small town very close to Kokomo, and even after he retired, he kept his fire scanner on all of the time in the living room. It was a sure signal as to activity in the area on an official level. Owning such a scanner would be a really great idea for someone living in your area (or any area where a current flap is occuring).

I've found a map of the area in question from Google. (the 26 meets the 31, Kokomo is also pictured). Could you mark an approximate area that you are in, and an approximate area where the activity was/is? I'm not sure if you know the destination of those vehicles you mentioned, but an approximation on their destination would help too.

At any rate, if we can narrow down a small enough area (Indiana itself isn't that large in comparison with most other states) we could actually do some searching through satellite pics to see if there is any trace of an impactor. Even in the case of an impactor detonating above the surface (not that I think that's what happened here, but I like to investigate all possibilities) there should still be trace evidence. In the tunguska affair there were trees laid out in an obvious pattern that told the tale of the explosion connected to the event. If this sonic boom was caused in a similar way, there might be similar evidence still present...

Anyway, here's the map, perhaps you and Mr. Warren can help us all understand what areas we're looking at:
maps.google.com...,+Indiana&ie=UTF8&z=12&iwloc=addr

-WFA

Here is the embed code for the map, if that helps...





[Mod Edit - Removed code for map: Repair page format]



[edit on 21/4/2008 by Sauron]



posted on Apr, 21 2008 @ 10:14 AM
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Hello, there is more going on than I guess we will ever know. I can tell you this, I grew up around Wright Patterson within a few miles and as an adult, I lived in a community called Bunker Hill across from the air base, and I can tell you from my years of being around planes and bases, this sonic boom was a little different. It had a deeper sound that could be felt to my soul. I was outside with my camcorder 15 minutes before and during and this is what I even found eerier, total silence for approximately 10 minutes when beforehand, the sky was filled with jets, amber lights (disc or balls) and more unknown activity that I can only guess. thanks



posted on Apr, 21 2008 @ 10:19 AM
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Sorry, I assume everyone knows where I live, I meant to say, Bunker Hill across from Grissom Airforce Base in Indiana.



posted on Apr, 21 2008 @ 10:56 AM
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I am not computer savvy but I will give approximately where i am and the prox. of my activity. Maybe you can mark map for me. I live 1.5 miles off of 31 going west. I live on 26 on the south side. I have a large field on my west side and is situated before 200 west. Approximately 300 feet due west of where I was observing, Several deep amber lights started to display and grew into large amber to orange displays, and one emitted balls like 6 to 8 off one end of this ?????. It reminded me of acorn shape. They were solid color and one of them seem to hover while others would appear in random display, like sequencing lights. The lights they were displaying stayed within the object. It did not light the area around them. this is the proximity after sonic boom. I observed similar displays shortly before sonic boom only in different location.Is this helpful? ask if you need more info



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 01:36 PM
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Hello there Sequence, I know that area fairly well. I'll try to get some images together this evening to illustrate to everyone else where you are and what your area looks like


-WFA



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