Any time VisionQuest... alternative views besides fake make me think.

Don't be a rejecting. You might deny reality.

So what have we learned today.

Well clouds and UFOs can go together even after two days.

A UV meter can come in handy as evidence, well not even with sworn
statement for some ATS leerkers I suppose.

And a static meter can be used on the same day and perhaps up to
two days later.

The Illuminati most likely own the UFO will never divulge its secrets
so don't expect any breakthroughs soon.

UFOs are not fake and neither is the Illuminati.

To me...the relation of the distance from the sky to the house appears as though it would be really small? I agree with some one who said that it seems like a remote control type of object. The space relationship just appears off?? And...sorry about the post earlier...he said he was feeding the dogs..i read incorrectly.

Okay, let's see here. We got a fuzzy, shaky, overexposed video, and a story from some guy. And that's about it.

Yep, I'm in ATS's Aliens & UFOs forum, all right.

Ok... I have taken the time to read the youtube emails sent to me by the Videographer and they are as follows:

youtube Message:

also, many viewers are posting remarks on one of my videos that ATS has debunked my UFO footage(s)...I KNOW FOR SURE ATS. holds a very professional approach to any and all UFO postings.

youtube Message:

THANKS, I have at this time designated JAIME MAUSSAN to conduct a complete and fair investigation unto this matter. I will let him and his investigative team get in touch with you guys for more follow ups. In the meantime, let me finish the interview and video analysis with them first.

youtube Message:

Due to the high risk of my video and material ending up in the wrong hands, JAIME MAUSSAN has sent a team of investigators to conduct a very professional investigation. I will cease any and all communication and authorization to anyone effective immediatley! Only JAIME MAUSSAN and his investigative team will have official possesion and access to my videos as well as any interviews. I thank you for your understanding.

youtube Message:

YOU ARE RIGHT many skeptics and spies out there trying to degrade my footage. But boy do I have a surprise! I am one week away from declaring this footage world wide! It is far more real than the ALIEN AUTOPSY and HAITI UFO, even MARK LAZAR will become a BELIEVER like you all at ATS!!

Ok... so there you have it! Mr. Jaime Maussan has done it again!! Screwed us all claiming all rights to the videos. Any of you surprised?



P.S. Yesterday night I invited the Videographer to chat with us here and he had sai it was Ok. Now he wrote and said this about Jaime Maussan? Don't know what gives....

Will contact him again (hold your temper Free_Spirit I won’t “harass” him I swear) to see if he at least passes around to chat with us a while. Whish me luck!!




[edit on 18-4-2008 by The Coward]

Originally posted by Palasheea


Um... IchiNiSan, when you see these things in person, yes, many times one does become obsessed with the UFO topic -- just in case you're wondering.

Many of us here have seen them. That's why we're here in this forum.

Well don't get me wrong, I am obsessed with UFO too. It is just that too often it is so coincidental and lucky for certain true believers to film a UFO in his backyarden Makes my spider sense tingling, if it is these kinds of people telling me they saw a UFO.

Originally posted by tjsteeler
Yeah, it's a hoax. The owner of the video on Youtube already banned me for questioning it.

It's odd that he has two videos of UFOs within 48 hours in the same exact area

I emailed the guy and questioned him also. I asked him straight up if it was a
hoax. He didn't ban me. He actually emailed me back. He claims the video is
real, and that Ufologist...Jaime M(?) picked up the original film and took it with
him.

The second video is just of a cloud, not a UFO.

I'm in no way defending him. I have no judgment either way. I wanted to ask
him a few questions to see if I could get a different response. I do,
however, have concerns about the length of the footage. Maybe we will get some answers. If not, oh well. On to the next one. I have other things to get uptight about.

Another white orb for the belt notch. Just out back with the dogs, digging the full moon and 75 degree temps. Saw a largish white orb streaking down 45 degrees due south. It was cooking. Percieved speed, a couple thousand mph at least. No sound, no report of it hitting ground. 10:50 pm est, ssw travel. About a golf ball in size held at arms length.

Neat footage. Who cares if its a hoax?

Thoughts make reality, not the other way around. The proof crowd says the exact opposite, but they pin themselves into a tiny corner of being simple machines responding to stimuli in that case. There isn't much you could call time at the quantum level, at wich everypart of your brain exsists, thus you think before after and during what happens, so our thoughts preceed reality by at least 6 seconds, as shown an extensive study.

If you create the mental space for this to be real, geuss what, it is real. Even if this footage turns out to be fake, knowing about the alien reality, it has happened somewhere, and this footage truely did happen somewhere in the mulit-verse anyway, so what IS a fake really? Anything that can happen is now happening somewhere in the multi-verse. Talking about proof is silly in the multi-verse, and even in our universe we have Von Hisenberg's uncertinty wich negates any proof anyway.

Out-tumble THOSE mental gymnastics!

@The Coward- I hope you do blow my mind. Its been awhile! My reality has become far to flexible and nebulaus to resist an explosive force, unlike clouds wich hold in cuncusion waves,

This is the best footage of a rain cap or spark arrestor that I have seen.

I don't think I have ever seen the sky so white like it is in that video.

Nice piece of film. Could be faked I suppose but there's really no need to make fake footage when there are so many real UFOS flying around. There were a couple pics of an identical craft floating around a few years ago that were taken in Scotland somewhere. It also looks quite similar to the UFO I saw in Fife, Scotland in March 2004. The difference was my object had a turned up flange at each side and the whole underneath had a pink-red flashing light that lit up the air around it. Lovely sunny day it was and so close I could have hit it with a rock. Definitely not CGI, unless there's a technology that can make things appear soild in real life, out of thin air. Hmm. Maybe there is....

I arrived a little late on this thread


A few notes to bare in mind on the Video.

Important or not,

I see alot of you saying this was filmed on a cellphone/digital video

it was not

The Video Was filmed on a Hi-8 tape camera , (notice the tracking at the bottom of the video, like when you record a VHS video.)

so this is not a digital Video,

If it was fake then he has Done all this digitally and then Exported it to tape to "dirty" up the video which would hide details and at the same time make it look more convincing as tape footage looks more untamperd with.

on the other hand this could be real and was just shot on tape and recorded onto the computer using a video capture hardware/software.

a lot of you have already touched upon notes that I would agree with like the dimond lens blur on the lights,

that is typical of a cerl zeis lens systen used on most camcorders tape and digital my sony DV cam and my sony hi-8 cam both have dimond shaped irisi's.

so the lights on there are really hard to judge exactly what they are..holes? or lights? could be eaither.


the over exposure does not strike me as "post processed" depending on camera settings, and sky conditions, the sky will be over exposed when therer are dark buildings trees on the same field of veiw.


Dispite all this (and I am one who have seen a craft and truley beleive E.T. craft regually visit us)

this looks fake to me, but I just can't seem to put words to why that is.
it dosent look CGI

it looks like a nuts and bolts model closer than you think

an that same note. I'm going to go now and experoment with my camcorders as

****AND TAKE NOTE OF THIS****

I'm 90% shure that the dimond lenns bluring of small bright light points only happends on very close subjects,

I recently made a Video project for a music video comepatition and I was filming led lights close up and changing the focus and they were all dimond shape.. but this never happends on say... stars or the moon when the focus goes out.. I will experoment .




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Is it just me , or is the idea of someone being able to capture an image of a extra terrestrial craft on a simple vidicam slightly odd? I mean these things would have to have some pretty exotic energies involved with thier locomotion wouldnt you think ? I would expect at least SOME interferance of either the sound or the picture . Although Im not a skeptic on the subject of UFO I do think that the majority of available footage is faked , simply because there is no interferance of any kind , which just doesnt hold wieght when you are talking about taking pictures of an interstellar craft which must carry some sort of lightspeed propulsion system , and therefore pack out at least a few interesting energy signatures.
Of course , it may be that where ever the craft came from , it has shielded all its energy run off from external observation, or it may give of energy that we havent the means to record, but its still confusing to me.

Is it just me , or is the idea of someone being able to capture an image of a extra terrestrial craft on a simple vidicam slightly odd? I mean these things would have to have some pretty exotic energies involved with thier locomotion wouldnt you think ? I would expect at least SOME interferance of either the sound or the picture . Although Im not a skeptic on the subject of UFO I do think that the majority of available footage is faked , simply because there is no interferance of any kind , which just doesnt hold wieght when you are talking about taking pictures of an interstellar craft which must carry some sort of lightspeed propulsion system , and therefore pack out at least a few interesting energy signatures.
Of course , it may be that where ever the craft came from , it has shielded all its energy run off from external observation, or it may give of energy that we havent the means to record, but its still confusing to me.