Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by free_spirit
Do you mean to say that Ruiz is not the man in the video who claims to have taken it?
[edit on 4/18/2010 by Phage]
On the countrary Phage, I said Mr. Mauricio Ruiz also known as YouTube luckymauro is
the actual videographer of this footage, this is a fact. He lives in Alvin, Texas with his
family, near from Houston. I contacted Mauricio Ruiz just after he posted his footage in
YouTube, he replied and we emailed each other, later I called him by phone and we
had conversations. Mauricio Ruiz worked for the municipal goverment in Alvin and sent
me images of his certificates and diplomas from them. Mauricio Ruiz is a respected
citizen in his neighborhood and works as a legal tax account in his office in Alvin.
This is the background of the videographer and these are facts, you may check
and confirm this information anytime calling or asking the Alvin municiple goverment
inquiring who Mauricio Ruiz is and where does he live. I made my own research when
this footage was released, you can do the same thing Phage if you are interested but
please don't suggest Mr. Mauricio Ruiz is not the man in the video, that would be naive.
Now to the video itself. I'm afraid you are not well informed at all. Mauricio Ruiz gave
his footage and his videocamera to the Open Minds Group in Arizona for research and
analysis, they are in posesion of the original video and the videocamera. Mauricio Ruiz
also gave interviews to mexican tv journalist Jaime Maussan, japanese tv researchers,
italian tv journalists and researchers, brazilian magazine and others. If Mauricio Ruiz
gave his video to this or that researcher / group this is not an issue to criticize, attack
or debunk, it is his privilege.
On the other hand your judgement at this moment is based in the YouTube video
uploaded by Mauricio luckymauro but this was a short version, edited. The original
footage is longer than this copy and also shows the interference and other details.
Therefore in order for you to make a valid judgement you need to study and analyze
an original copy of the 8 mm raw footage wich includes the actual time frames, audio
etc. In the original resolution just like the scientist from the UNAM University of Mexico
analyzed the interference in the tape in this case he was given the original videotape
and once the analysis was made the scientist presented an official result and returned
the videotape to the owner. Conclusion, if you want to debate this footage and the
people involved you need to study the original tape, make your own analysis with
professional equipment and then present your evidence.
But first you need to know the case and all the facts presented if you want to propose a
formal debunk because guessing is not an argument.

