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reply posted on 12-6-2008 @ 11:03 PM by free_spirit

Take it easy internos, I just asked who Mr. Ritzmann is because you
mentioned him and I did'nt know or remember him, that's all. You would
have ask the same thing if you heard about someone you don't know.
Are we clear ? Yes Mr. Ritzmann is a member and also a professional
I just checked his name here and in his webpage. That's it and if he is
your friend that's fine. I know others like Jeff Sainio, Bruce MacAbee
just to mention some.

It's not big deal to argue about this or that expert but to know and talk
about the actual witness and his story. At this point I gave you enough
information about this case and the debunkers that tried to dismiss the
case by disseminating disinformation in Mexico. You make your own
conclusion based on your best criterion.

reply posted on 13-6-2008 @ 10:14 AM by PhotonEffect

I've seen a lot of CGI videos since being a member at ATS (however I'm no expert here), and this one doesn't look cgi to me. Usually just by looking at it you can tell.

That being said, if it is CGI, it's very impressive, probably the best I've seen.

This video should be evaluated by as many experts as possible. Ritzman should have a look IMO.

This OP video reminds me of these 2 as far as look and feel. Now I'm not sure if the France vid was determined to be CGI, but the Brazil object is real. However it was determined to be some sort of a balloon. (not meant to insinuate a balloon in the OP vid)

France

YouTube Link

Brazil

YouTube Link

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply posted on 14-6-2008 @ 01:39 AM by alfafox

reply to post by internos

To internos;

Hello 'internos', my real name is Capt. Alejandro Franz. I am from Mexico
and would like to share with you some information regarding my work.
I would like you to contact me at my personal e-mail, if you accept of
course.I always present the data and the source.

Check this and you'll see what I'm talking about:

First you must see Mauricio's clouds video:

U.F.O. hidding behind CLOUDS? Amazing footages!
www.youtube.com...

If you check the video carefully Mauricio Ruiz recorded the first forming cloud
on april 13 2008 at 12:55:40 (spot on screen). He did that on a very suspicious
way, he pan the camera from his front garden straight to a tiny white spot in
a "crystal clear blue sky" as he says while he was recording. How did Mauricio
knew that a small white spot was going to get bigger? Why he talks to a person
who doesn't seem to be exited answering with no interest as he explains the
"cloud phenomena" with a lot of words and we just can hear the dogs barking
and some bored answers from a male voice?

We didn't see the first cloud vanishing but then Mauricio recorded the second
forming cloud on april 13 2008 at 1:15:21 , that is 19 minutes 41 seconds later
and now in a different location or a different "take" or scenario.

This is very strange, because on april 13 2008 early that same day
at 12:41:09 Mauricio recorded a "very shinny round object at incredible speeds"

My questions are:

How did the first cloud vanished and left a clear sky again for the second cloud
to show up? Where is the video recording showing both clouds vanishing?
How did Mauricio got three aerial "phenomena" in 35:14 -thirty five minutes
and fourteen seconds? (from first "phenomena" 12:41:09 to third "phenomena"
ending at 1:16:23)

Please check some english pages at this site:

www.alcione.org...

UFO's or simply Oil Well Gas flames?
PART I
www.alcione.org...

Mexican Air Force FLIR's video lights are not UFO's
they are oil well gas flames! PART II
www.alcione.org...

AEROMEXICO'S AIRPLANE COLLIDED WITH A UFO
BEFORE LANDING IN 1994! TRUE OR FALSE?
www.alcione.org...

The truth about the original shooting of NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC's
recreation flight of the Mexican Air Force UFO sighting march 2004.

Some retarded dare to write something like this against the oil well
flames theory about the Mexican Air Force's FLIR lights, a case that
was wrongly delivered to a known hoaxer named Jaime Maussan.

UfoUpdates at -www.virtuallystrange.net-

> Just as an important information. Last Sunday in Mexico the
> Cantarel oil flames hoax was exposed on national television
> during the two-hour live broadcast of the Grandes Misterios TV
> show presenting the facts and official information that exposed
> and disqualified the hoaxer once for all.

As always, this retarded never presented any official or personal
information or investigation credits, or data, just words and more
words. A fussy man with a big mouth full of foam. I ignored him.

Mexican Air Force specialists were incapable to discover that the
FLIR lights source was the Cantarell oil well flames that burn off
on a daily basis in the Gulf of México and wrongly released to Jaime
Maussan, a well known Mexican broadcaster and UFOlogist who
has made a career out of the sensationalist promotion of supposedly
"unexplained mysteries.

Maussan's pronouncements range from the sensational to the absurd.

Best regards, and please write to me directly.

Capt. Alejandro Franz
director@alcione.org
ALCIONE.ORG
(non-profit)

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reply posted on 14-6-2008 @ 01:17 PM by TeslaandLyne

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
reply to post by VisionQuest

Yeah, its the bottom of a bug sapper.

So thats what been flying around all these years.

Except the real static fliers are way more powerful.

ED:
U.F.O. and MYSTERY CLOUD APPEARS SAME PLACE!
www.youtube.com...

Real thing guys... chemcloud left behind.

Positive ions did their thing. I told you so.

[edit on 4/17/2008 by TeslaandLyne]

I don't know where this thread is now but I went back to the
clouds left behind in three days and its gone.

I'm looking for some UFO cloud making.

I get all these links and how can I counter with its already here?

www.google.com...

www.google.com...

www.google.com...

The Tesla cloud making way is in the UFO, the government will never OK
anything else because it won't work and they know it.

The car that runs on water, used a Tesla coil or ether blaster as
I like to think about it now. Of course it ran on water.
What a scam. The government reps saw the system with the
coil, a dead giveaway its more than water making the power.

Remember that energy does not come from mass but from the bonds
that tie the mass together. Breaking the gas bonds with a spark
from a plug does it all.

ED: There its is at the end.
www.youtube.com...

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reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 02:15 AM by TeslaandLyne

It does look fake.

And why not fake it in you own back yard.

Only two things are striking, one is an update.

The circular lighted area is around the landing gear covers
for the inflatable landing gear.

Early saucers took off from platforms or get shorted out
if close to the ground.

Its not a plasma motor but rough edges that are lit up from the
Tesla electrostatic airship. Charges gather on the outer surfaces.

And second, Mexico seems to have the old saucer types.

ED: This is interesting because UFOs should not make trails or
clouds. A trail would be made by chemical means. So this UFO
has a malfunctioning spraying mechanism. So its a chemical
cloud.

[edit on 8/12/2008 by TeslaandLyne]

reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 06:27 AM by hippydippy2

reply to post by The Coward

fake fake fake.

Why?

Doesnt move-did it stay there forever-and why didnt they wait to film it when it left.

Looks fake and worldly

too good to be true

reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 06:30 AM by Dronetek

Does he show the UFO flying away? No, so you can pretty much guarantee its fake. If you were taping something that clear, would you stop recording before it left?

reply posted on 12-8-2008 @ 06:06 PM by TeslaandLyne

If that happened to us, what would we do.

I'd get on a cell phone or yell out to get my tripod and keep it on
the same spot.

You can't follow them when they fly away but they seem to stay in
one spot quite lot.

Putting out gasses that light up at night is a night tactic.

So daytime trials have begun on clouds.

reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 11:17 AM by Anonymous ATS

reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 12:54 PM by The Coward

Yeah.... I kinda figured this piece of trash must have been hoaxed. What else can I expect from Jaime Maussan? Lately, the imbecile is showing these CGI hoaxed videos as genuine. This man Jaime Maussan and Luckymauro are scammers. Luckymauro never got back to me with any of the original footage and kept giving me the run around till he completely stopped communication altogether. Jaime told him to do so. But I have something for both their arses. Soon I will finish up on my videos uncovering Jaime’s scams, and how there has never been a UFO wave in Mexico.

This will be the last thread I ever do about UFOs and relation with Mexico Jaimes Maussan (All thought it was shot in Texas but Jaime is from Mexico), unless it is to bring up the truth on their scams. NO UFO video of Mexico are aliens or alien vehicles. Mostly they are balloons, CGI, or misidentified. Aliens are nowhere near Mexico, and IMHO care less about that country. The only thing flying around Mexico these days is the American dollar which flocks all the way south of the border and into the pockets of Scam Artist Jaime Maussan.

I SPIT ON THE FAKE MEXICO UFO WAVE AND ON FAKE JAIME MAUSSAN AND HIS CREEPY CREW OF LIARS!

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reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 01:00 PM by free_spirit

IMPORTANT INFORMATION. Scientist from the major Univerisity in Mexico, the UNAM
National University Autonomous of Mexico validated the tape recorded by Mr.
Mauricio Ruiz in Alvin, Texas on April 11, 2008. By conducting a scientific analysis to
the original Hi-8 tape using one of the most advanced equipments in Latin America
in the UNAM installations department of materials research under the supervision of
Dr. Miguel Angel Canseco. This is an official analysis and report by a scientific
institution wich constitute a precedent and an important advance in this
investigatiion.

Watch the whole story with english subtitles here.

www.youtube.com...

Of course now the eccentric mexican clown named Alejandro Franz Navarrete is
furious and will scream the scientist Dr. Canseco is a dumb fool liar and the whole
University scientists are lousy hoaxers etc. This pathetic paranoid individual named
Alejandro Franz Navarrete said the same things about the mexican Air Force people,
the DOD staff and Secretary of Defense himself because he decided to give the
UFO disclosure to the world. This mexican parasite named Alejandro Franz Navarrete
also said similar things about all those mexican commercial pilots who reported
UFO sightings saying all of them are a bunch of fools and hoaxers.

The sick mind of this individual named Alejandro Franz Navarrete pertended to deny
all the mexican UFO sightings since 1991 by claiming all those mexican UFO
witnesses (and I mean thousands in a 17 years period) are crazy people, hoaxers
and dumb beings. Do I need to say more?

WARNING

This pathetic individual named Alejandro Franz Navarrete, despised by the mexican
pilots association is just a sick old man who lives in denial and has an obsession
against all the UFO witnesses and sightings, a paranoia result of a failed attempt to
create a cult many years ago. Considered a sick clown in the mexican ufologic
communities this guy Alejandro Franz Navarrete is a truly menace to everyone
who gets involved with him so be very careful with him.

A word of advice to internos. Take extra precautions with this individual named
Alejandro Franz Navarrete who is inviting you to contact him directly If you do that
this guy will find out your IP address and whereabouts for who knows what sinister
intentions besides quoting you everytime he needs backup to his crazy allegations.
Keep in mind the poor guy is desesperated for an audience.

reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 01:25 PM by free_spirit

Originally posted by The Coward
Soon I will finish up on my videos uncovering Jaime’s scams, and how there has never been a UFO wave in Mexico.

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In that case you will need to document 17 years of UFO sightings every day, week,
month and year besides every tv show aired worldwide on this subject by the
international media for the past 17 years, also every ufo conference given all over the
world by many international researchers on the mexican subject, also document
thousands and thousands of reports published on the internet for the past 17 year
period about the mexican ufo sightings. Then of course you will have to document all
the books written to date about the mexican sightings in order to validate your theory.

This process will take you I think... the rest of your lifetime so start quickly, time is
running. Of course you may take the easy way out of the hard work and just fabricate
empty arguments and speculations to see who is gonna belive you. Why bothering with
so much work who will be useless at the end. Just to justificate your personal conflict
of interest with that mexican researcher Maussan? Let's be honest here and recognize
your intention has nothing to do with the mexican sightings, mexican UFO wave or
whatever. You personal agenda is just against that mexican Maussan for your own
personal reasons, you know it, and we know it period. Your ATS messages history
proves it and it's there for everyone interested to check.

Your personal vendetta against Maussan is your problem and certainly not of my
concern. Do you really think you will be able to debunk 17 years of mexican ufo
sightings? Who is going to belive you man, don't be naive.

reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 02:02 PM by philjwolf

reply to post by free_spirit

I got this off the ufo watchdog site... in the hall of shame.. Promoter and supporter of various UFO hoaxes. Constantly claims to have scientific proof, but nevers seems able to produce it when asked. Claimed to have radar tapes confirming UFOs in Mexico airspace. Was reportedly asked for the tapes - the tapes never came to fruition. Supported Hale-Bopp UFO hoax made infamous via Art Bell and Courtney Brown. Told people at a 1996 UFO conference that stars in the sky were actually giant UFOs hovering in space above the planet. Said this was reason stars shifted position in sky! Sold infamous tape of daylight UFO to a television network for a reported $120,000 - the tape was proven to be a hoax. Maussan has also supported the Billy Meier UFO fraud. Maussan is now best known for his promotion of the shameless Reed UFO Fraud. Maussan claims to have scientific proof of the Reed UFO Fraud - again, he has yet to produce it. Will jump the gun and claim a bogus alien photo is real without proper investigation. Maussan had the gall to call your ufowatchdog.com an amateur - funny, but I recall this so-called amateur exposing the Reed UFO Fraud that was sitting right under Maussan's nose. So, Jaime, what ever did happen to your supposed investigation showing "Dr. Reed" to be real? Beware of so-called journalists that don't report all of the facts...it is indeed a wonder why anyone would give Maussan a grain of credibility. Let's just hope a real case of import never finds its way to Maussan...God help us if it does...clowns belong in the circus, not doing investigations.

reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 02:06 PM by The Coward

reply to post by free_spirit

Only and idiot would think about going through all "17 years of Lies" to validate this Parasite as a hoaxer. One does not even have to watch my videos. Simply look at how Maussan shows a Flying Horse and states that it is real. Are you serious? Any man who comes up to me and asks me to buy his tapes which include a “real” flying horse in them disserves me to slap him silly. This ape is a fool, and you my friend are a tool. The man stood behind more hoaxes than any other person in the whole UFO field. He even made the Hall of Shame He is about making $$$$ That's all! Not only that but he seems crazy too!

I suggest that you read more about Jaime Maussan then relate all of Mexico sightings and note that they have his seal of approval. How many HOAXES does it have to take from one man to find a truth?

Keep believing and sending your hard earned cash to this NUT he might be able to pay off his Mercedes by this year if he could find a few more suckers like yourself.

And by the way, bring forward any video from Mexico which you think is a 100% proof of aliens visiting that country. Bring it on… Make me a believer!

reply posted on 13-2-2009 @ 12:12 AM by anyone