Thanks for responding,
1) Maybe the reason that those who have undying loyalty to the official position remain mute, is because the truth movement never brings anything viable to the argument. It's always the same old anonymous so and so from such and such organization making sensational claims with nothing to back it up. Like you have just done.'
Perhaps I do not have the name of the NSOC/NSA personnel to confirm this. I can only infer that you will believe named individuals. I will recall and make use this forceful logic tool
2) Oh great, more of the government controls the media nonsense. What about the family members who helped on the Flight 93 docudrama? Are they controlled by the government also?
Great generalization. I said they cooperated, not controlled..., or rather "oh great more of that 'let me re-frame you comment so as to attack something you didn't claim'." Time will tell just how warm and fuzzy the family will be over this, I can't speak for them or what they know or were told.
3) How can an untrained eye recognize something that is false when they are untrained to recognize what is true?
That's a bit sophistic wasn't it? Was my point unclear? Even the 'trained and experienced' professionals at the scene publicly questioned the 'reported' truth - I grant that they recanted (though some didn't) immediately after the official story was developed. But of course, citing them as proof is as questionable as citing the National Security Agency isn't it?
4) The FDR and CVR found at the crash site are as about as rocksolid as you can get.
By virtue of the fact that only information you provide is factual, my counter will be an exercise in futility but for starters
from: UA93_Press_Release.html
"Pilots for 9/11 Truth received documents from the NTSB and began a close analysis of the data they contain. After expert review and cross check, Pilots for 9/11 Truth has concluded that the information in these NTSB documents does not support, and in some instances factually contradicts, the official government position that United Airlines Flight 93 created the impact crater as reported, in Somerset County, PA on the morning of September 11, 2001 .According to the US Govt, United Airlines Flight 93 approached Somerset County from the North-Northwest at a high altitude on the morning of September 11, 2001 . However, many witnesses contradict altitude as well as approach path. Also according to reports, and as the impact crater suggests, United Airlines Flight 93 impacted terrain at an almost vertical 90 degree angle, while the Flight Data Recorder shows a 35 degree angle with up-sloping terrain, further reducing impact angle."
Such entries can go on and on but I might safely predict your response.
5) What about the family members? Are they propagating and strengthening lies? Or were they controlled by the government also?
Your dripping sarcasm is not appreciated.
What ABOUT the family members? Are you suggesting they know anything other than they were told? I don't think stepping on their grief is really the issue here - so lay off the derisive nonsense.
You have a right to question my, and argue your, position here. If for some reason you think your apparent exasperation with this subject is an excuse or justification to address the post disrespectfully, I suggest you are mistaken. As for myself, I did not 'tune in' to watch a Penn & Teller routine. Spare me the trite attitude or move on to something that doesn't compel you to act like I personally assaulted you or your 'sensibilities.'
On a lighter note - thanks for being kind enough to address this point by point. I think it makes the exchange easier to manage. I admit some of your questions really merit consideration - but I can't say your 'case' is very convincing.
Take care.
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