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Comedian Jackie Gleason, President Nixon & UFOs

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posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 04:09 AM
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Jackie Gleason, bottom left, with Elvis Presley

Through the years, I've come across at times, a story of how venerated comedian Jackie Gleason (of the classic TV show The HoneyMooners, the Paul Newman movie, The Hustler & Smokey and the Bandit/Burt Reynolds movie) was a UFO buff and was invited to Homestead AirForce base in Florida by President Nixon to view recovered alien bodies. Gleason was a comic genius and brilliant man with a heavy stake in conformity through his fame, fortune and connections.

After his death, his widow revealed how anguished he was after this visit to the Florida AirForce base...

His status at the time, before restrictions and compounding layers of coverup/measures that allowed a civilian access to bear witness to alien life forms is fascinating. Imagine if you had the connections at that time and were alowed to see alien(s). Think how that, and keeping a secret of staggering proportions would wreak havoc on your conscious.

Wikipedia:

"Gleason was very interested in reports of unidentified flying objects, and even had a house built in the shape of one. During the 1950s, he was a semi-regular guest on the paranormal-themed overnight radio show hosted by John Nebel, and wrote the introduction to Donald Bain's biography of Nebel. Like Nebel, Gleason generally seemed like a curious skeptic. According to respected UFO researcher Jerome Clark,

"Jackie Gleason was indeed a UFO buff. He also had a keen interest in psychic phenomena. His views, while sympathetic, were also hard-headed, and he was not a credulous enthusiast."
According to ufologist Timothy Good (in his books Alien Liaison and Alien Contact), after Gleason's death his wife reported that one day in 1973 Gleason had come home extremely shaken. He confided to her that because of Gleason's interest in UFOs, U.S. President Richard Nixon, who was a friend of his, had arranged for him to view bodies of extraterrestrials at Homestead Air Force Base, Florida under conditions of extreme secrecy. Gleason had found the experience very troubling.

Gleason was an emphatic Republican and personal friend of U.S. President Richard M. Nixon, who had a vacation home near Gleason's in Florida. The two shared an interest in golfing and in the importance of the Federal Bureau of Investigation."





posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 04:13 AM
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I didn't know that, but he was kind of before my time...

So why is Elvis in a wheel chair in that photo and what's the topic of this post? Just an FYI kind of thread? Just wondering



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 04:22 AM
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Originally posted by LateApexer313
I didn't know that, but he was kind of before my time...

So why is Elvis in a wheel chair in that photo and what's the topic of this post? Just an FYI kind of thread? Just wondering




Before my time too...I figured some people didn't know about this and thought it was interesting.

Jackie Gleason was a huge star during his time, comparable today to someone like Jim Carrey or Will Ferrel...Everyone adored him, so, for his bereaved widow to reveal his otherworldy visit and ensuing troubled mind to the public is fascinating and appears legitimate.

He had interest in UFOs for years, but, did not mention the Florida AirForce base visit ever for decades...What a burden to bear.

All these decades later, the UFO phenomenon, is still considered "crazy" by the ignorant masses. The world's best kept secret.



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 04:29 AM
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Aweee, it's not so secret and it's believed in EVEN by a majority of the masses, so buck up


It's not considered crazy you're just buying into the MSM's reaction to it...is all



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by LateApexer313
Aweee, it's not so secret and it's believed in EVEN by a majority of the masses, so buck up


It's not considered crazy you're just buying into the MSM's reaction to it...is all


The (a little over 50%) majority believes in the possibility of life elsewhere/UFOs. However the extent of their belief is manifest only when they are polled anonymously. The stigma of coming forward, talking freely about UFOs hasn't progressed much in the modern era/past 60 years. Doing so still, will garner ridicule for that person. If you're an airline pilot, reporting UFOs would even get you on suspension and/or fired, thus, most do not report to keep their job security.

I put crazy in...quotes, to suggest mockery of the real UFO phenomenon by society, NOT my convictions...reading comprehension..Buck up.

[edit on 16-4-2008 by EclipseReloaded]



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 03:05 PM
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Gleason was much bigger and far more gifted than either Ferrell or Carrey. If you want to compare a current star to Gleason you'd be closer if you used someone the calibre of DeNiro or Pacino.

I'm sorry, but Hollywood isn't making stars like Gleason anymore. It's turning out little plastic, programmed people who think they know how to act.

Returning to the topic of this thread, I'd heard about Gleason's trip to Homestead AFB many years ago and the details were the same. He found it a very sobering experience, so to speak.



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 04:24 PM
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I compared Carrey and Ferrell to Gleason popularity to give other members some context. Gleason is a legend.

Back on topic: Jackie Gleason's visit to Homestead Air Force Base, FLA

"Nixon was known as an UFO enthusiast. It is said that he not only had a large collection of books on the subject in his personal library, but also would talk with almost anyone about the subject. (If the Greada Treaty is true, then wouldn't you have loved to been a fly on the wall when Ike and Tricky Dicky had fireside chats?). Nixon shared this interest with his friend and golfing buddy, Jackie Gleason.

Entertainer Jackie Gleason had a lifelong fascination with the subject. Some of his pals and cohorts would say he bordered on being a fanatic about it. Although Gleason was not afraid or embarrassed at who knew of his UFO-Alien hobby, he was strangely careful with whom he discussed the issues. For some reason, he would launch into a UFO-Alien diatribe with some people but not with others. Nixon, on the other hand, seemed to be highly selective with whom he brought up and discussed the phenomenon.

On a particular trip to Florida in February 1973, President Nixon came to help Jackie Gleason with a charity golf tournament. It was during that trip that Nixon showed Gleason evidence of extraterrestrials. Nixon actually ditched his secret service escort, a trick he was renowned for doing, so he could drive a car right up to the Gleason estate. (According to Secret Service Agent, Marty Venker, Nixon was infamous for ditching his Secret Service protection and did so on more than one occasion.). Nixon got Gleason into the car and off they went to Homestead Air Force Base so Nixon could show him the bodies of aliens.

Gleason's second wife, Beverly, claimed that Gleason relationship with Nixon was more than just as golfing chums. According to Mrs. Gleason in an unpublished manuscript, she alleged that during Nixon's February 1973 trip, Nixon took Jackie to Homestead Air Force Base to show him the bodies of aliens. Beverly Gleason alleges Jackie came home visibly shaken and on the verge of a breakdown. Though Gleason neither confirmed nor denied the story when investigators inquired, there was an independent confirmation of Beverly Gleason's story.

Larry Warren was a soldier stationed in England at the Air Force Security Police at RAF Bentwaters during one of the greatest military witnessed UFO cases thus far. The case is known as the Rendlesham Forest Case. Through mutual family friends, Gleason arranged to meet Warren in Gleason's home in May 1986. It was during this time that Gleason spilled the beans to Larry Warren, confirming Beverly Gleason's account in her unpublished book.

When they met, Warren commented on Gleason's vast UFO book collection. This apparently was the impetus that got Gleason to tell the story of the President coming to personally pick him from his Florida mansion and show him the aliens. Warren recalls Gleason telling him "We got them..." and then going on to recount the same basic story he had told his wife Beverly.

Nixon drove through the guard's gate at the base and pulled up to some buildings. Nixon took him into a lab, and then passed through several corridors before they entered a part of the building where there was wreckage of discs in wooden crates. They continued walking until they came to another section of the facility that housed glassed-topped freezer units. Gleason said what he saw first reminded him of children. Upon closer examination, he realized what he was looking at. Some of the bodies looked older than the others but all were mangled as though they had been pulled from an accident. Gleason was certain, said Warren, that what he saw was not human.

Gleason admits going through a three-week period afterward in which he was unable to sleep or eat well. What seemed to bother him most, Warren commented, was why was the government was hiding the truth from the American people." -Douglas B



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 10:18 PM
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I did a little research on this. This is the only thing that makes me skeptical. Later on, when his ex-wife (wife at the time) revealed what Jackie had seen (in an esquire interview), Jackie got really mad at her. Now, she claimed that once he got upset, she started to question whether what he said had been true and maybe, just maybe, it was an elaborate lie to cover up the fact that he was off "getting to know" some other girl that night. I mean, it's very conveivable that he would've done this (haven't we all made up a tall tale or two to get out of a sticky situation). I don't know how often Jackie disappeared without calling for an entire night, but I'm assuming that most wives don't allow that kind of thing. Therefore, if you're Jackie Gleason and you have President Nixon as your alibi, and your wife knows you're a UFO buff, and if you don't come up with a wild excuse for why you were gone all night, your wife's going to kill you..... I think you might utilitze the mother of all excuses to get out of trouble.

Because here's the thing. The story is that Jackie was very very upset when he came back from this "display" of aliens. Why? Because he couldn't understand why the government had proof of aliens and was keeping it from the public. He didn't think it was fair. So then why would Jackie get upset when his wife told everyone that he had seen aliens at an airforce base? Isn't keeping a story like this secret the very behavior he disapproved of?

The only answer to that is, maybe he was told that under no circumstances was he to ever tell anybody what he saw. That's plausible. Seeing how top secret it would be. But isn't this the kind of conversation one might have with one's wife? Wouldn't he have said, "Under no circumstances can you ever ever tell anybody what I'm about to tell you."? Therefore, why would his ex-wife act so miffed that Jackie would be upset by her telling this story? Why would it lead her to believe that he may have originally lied about it? Wouldn't she have simply thought, "Oh well he's obviously upset because he swore me to secrecy"? But that never crossed her mind - making me believe that maybe Jackie may have been trying to save his skin that night.

Oh, and let's not forget that Gleason was a huge drinker. That certainly doesn't work in his defense.



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 01:31 AM
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"To the moon, Alice!" There was a time when you could say that phrase and immediately most everyone knew exactly who you're talking about: 'The Great One."

The fine actor and comedian Jackie Gleason will forever be associated with his role of bus driver Ralph Cramden on the popular TV series, "The Honeymooners." But there was another side to Jackie that few people know about. Gleason was an extremely serious armchair UFO researcher, and prided himself on his huge collection of UFO-related books, which numbered into the thousands. As soon as a new title came out, even in Europe or the UK, Jackie had a copy. Little did he suspect that his interest in that topic would one day gain him access to something that most people would never even believe, and would leave others who shared his interests either skeptical or forever jealous.

It was a chance conversation one afternoon, back in 1974 in Florida, while Jackie was playing golf with one of his regular partners, President Richard Nixon. Jackie had mentioned his interest in UFOs and his large collection of books, and the president admitted that he also shared Jackie's interest and had a sizeable collection of UFO-oriented materials of his own. At the time, the president said little about what he actually knew, but things were to change drastically later on that same night.

One can only imagine Gleason's surprise when President Nixon showed up at his house around midnight, completely alone and driving his own private car. When Jackie asked him why he was there, Nixon told him that he wanted to take him somewhere and show him something. He got into the president's car, and they ended up at the gates of Homestead Air Force Base. They passed through security and drove to the far end of the base, to a tightly-guarded building. At this point, I will quote directly from Gleason himself, from an interview he gave to UFO researcher and author Larry Warren:

"We drove to the very far end of the base in a segregated area, finally stopping near a well-guarded building. The security police saw us coming and just sort of moved back as we passed them and entered the structure. There were a number of labs we passed through first before we entered a section where Nixon pointed out what he said was the wreckage from a flying saucer, enclosed in several large cases. Next, we went into an inner chamber and there were six or eight of what looked like glass-topped Coke freezers. Inside them were the mangled remains of what I took to be children. Then - upon closer examination - I saw that some of the other figures looked quite old. Most of them were terribly mangled as if they had been in an accident."

Gleason was understandably excited by all of this, but also quite traumatized, and said he couldn't eat or sleep properly for weeks afterwards, and found himself drinking heavily until he was able to regain his composure. His wife at the time, Beverly, recalls him being out very late that night and speaking excitedly about what he had seen when he returned home. Later on, however, when she and Gleason were splitting up and she told the story to a writer at Esquire Magazine, which printed it in an article, relations between her and the entertainer deteriorated and Gleason became very upset and angry that the story had been made public. For this reason many people, including Beverly herself, have wondered at the truth of the story. However, in his interview with Larry Warren, who was invited to Jackie's house in person because Gleason wanted to hear firsthand about Warren's experience at Bentwaters Air Force Base in England, it was clear that Jackie was being honest and sincere:

"You could tell that he was very sincere - he took the whole affair very seriously, and I could tell that he wanted to get the matter off his chest, and that was why he was telling me all of this. Jackie felt just like I do, that the government needs to 'come clean,' and tell us all it knows about space visitors. It time t



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 01:32 AM
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It time they stopped lying to the public and release all the evidence they have. When they do, then we'll all be able to see the same things the late Jackie Gleason did."

The United States government's knowledge about UFOs and their occupants exists at the very highest levels of security, above even atomic weapons and things of that nature. Information is imparted on a strictly "need to know" basis, and this has left even many presidents in the dark on the subject. Obviously, Richard Nixon wasn't one of them. One can only imagine what technology and evidence of life outside of this Earth exists in the back corners and hidden labs of the American military, but for anyone who doesn't believe that this situation is real, this story about Jackie Gleason is just the very tiny tip of the iceberg. We may be waiting a very, very long time, indeed, until Jackie's dream of government disclosure comes true.

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posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 07:12 AM
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I've always found this story intriguing. I've never really had the feeling that it was untrue. Something about it feels authentic. Apparently Gleason was never really the same afterward. Understandable I guess. Seeing an ET would be no small thing. Especially for that era. These days we are far more desensitized to the idea that the boogers are out there and you'd imagine that to have a cushioning effect... at least to a small degree.

When I first heard this story I was quite surprised as I never really picked Gleason as a UFO buff, probably due to being a comedian - but then again so is Aykroyd.

IRM



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 07:23 AM
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This one is new to me. That's wild! If true, it's interesting that Gleason was supposedly more "troubled" than elated or excited (as I sometimes imagine I would be) to see this. Then again, they were dead. Weird story - it's like Nixon was showing him his baseball card collection...



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 12:19 PM
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I realize this is quite an old thread but this was such an interesting story. I remember reading about it years ago and I am surprised it didn't get more attention here on ATS. I have a feeling this may possibly be one of many threads started and this one did not get the attention this deserves. S & F from me if the original OP is even still alive and well. Last post was 2009 - One can only hope!

Jackie Gleason's Wife Talks

Saturday, 01 August 2009 06:18
Jackie Gleason gained access to Homestead Air Force Base through President Nixon, and there viewed dead alien bodies.
The accuracy of the story has always been questioned, because Gleason never spoke openly about the event.
The original person telling the Gleason/alien body story was Beverly Gleason, Gleason's second wife from 1970-1974.
Now after many years of silence Mrs. Gleason speaks out again to confirm the story she first told many years ago. The latest interview is done by Kenny Young. www.presidentialufo.com...


Jackie Gleason's Trip To The Alien Morgue

"We drove to the very far end of the base in a segregated area, finally stopping near a well-guarded building. The security police saw us coming and just sort of moved back as we passed them and entered the structure. There were a number of labs we passed through first before we entered a section where Nixon pointed out what he said was the wreckage from a flying saucer, enclosed in several large cases. Next, we went into an inner chamber and there were six or eight of what looked like glass-topped Coke freezers. Inside them were the mangled remains of what I took to be children. Then - upon closer examination - I saw that some of the other figures looked quite old. Most of them were terribly mangled as if they had been in an accident." www.rense.com...


Jackie Gleason and U.S. President Richard Nixon


Jackie Gleason and President Nixon had a number of things in common and became good friends. Gleason was a strong supporter of the Republican party. Gleason lived in Florida, and Nixon had a compound on Biscayne Bay only miles away. In addition to being avid golfers, both had high regard for the FBI. Nixon had in April 1937 applied to become an agent with the FBI, and Gleason worked for the FBI as an official "contact" for the Special Agent in Change (SAC) in Miami where he lived for the last twenty years of his life. One of the other things they had in common, according to Gleason, was a large collection of UFO books. Both were fascinated by the subject. www.phils.com.au...


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