posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 05:14 PM
I'll fire a round. I started a thread similar to this a couple days ago, but never responded to it because I couldn't believe the lack of
enlightenment coming my way.
It's okay to stop caring about the name of the place you were born. After all, it IS just the name of the place you were born, and the givernment
built around that name wasn'tn built with your interests in mind, so why should you have to love it?
And who's right is it to tell you to go complain elsewhere? If you don't like it, get out??? No, I don't think so. I, and my friend here, were born
here. We were most likely born into modest lifestyles, and we probably aren't financially secure enough in order to successfully complete a change of
country. I don't think a lot of people are. We are pretty much forced to stay here and just barely scrape by, like most of you are, as well. We have
a right to stay here, and we have a right to point out faults in the system, because it's ours as much as it is yours, and we're not going to let a
bunch of people who are "okay" with the system breaking down let it do so. Also, we want more than just a mechanic with a shiny new suit and a smile
to come fix our mess. We want a mechanic that can actually fix things, no matter how grease covered his over-alls are. Better yet, we wanna learn how
to fix it ourselves. We wanna learn how it works, rip it down completely, and build a brand new system in its place.
We want something that works. Not something that seems to work in the short-term, but breaks down completely after people have stopped paying
attention to it.
To be honest with you, if we knew exactly WHAT would work, we wouldn't be asking more people to open their minds and unwrap themselves from their
patriotic blindfolds. We need help. We don't have all the answers. We're just trying to get people to acknowledge that America is not what it is
supposed to be, and to be weary before blindly shouting in approval of something just because it's been there for a long time and lots of people tell
you it's a good thing.
It is a mental trap, that's all it is.
There's your simple answer, folks.
Why is patriotism bad? Because it places the mind into a box. Any thoughts or ideas that do not work in the face of patriotism do not work at all, and
will almost immediately snuffed away as either delusional or wishful thinking.
World peace is a good example. How can you have world peace in a world so divided by borders and pride in sustaining those borders?
It's very interesting to note that these borders don't actually exist. It's all an implanted idea within the mind. So people are fighting and dying
for ideas. Ideas that aren't really their ideas in the first place, and they very well may not have agreed with the motives behind those ideals if
they were given a chance to judge for themselves whether the ideal was right. Instead, its strongly implied to this person that the idea is right
because it just is, because the country we're fighting for is always right.
That is the flaw of patriotism. It is blind faith, and that is exactly the type of thing denying ignorance is not. Patriotism is ignorance.
And the statements such as "Go try living somewhere else and then see how you feel" or "You obviously have never been in the REAL WORLD" or "If
you don't like it GIIIIT OUT" also reek of ignorance as well, and here's why:
-This isn't the real world. I believe the real world has been, or is in the process of being, fully paved over and substituted with artificial
- I was born here, but what rulebook states that you have to like and support imaginary ideas that are attatched to the geographical location of your
- I know this much. We have enough money we waste on war and disposing of unagreeable governments of the world while replacing them with our own, that
I think all that misery we see when we go anywhere else in the world should be a reminder of why we should CARE about improving it. It should not be
an excuse we use to ignore it, and it MOST DEFINITELY should not be used to make people feel guilty about disagreeing with existing ideas.
- and also this... The only way new ideas happen is if they are allowed to replace or renew the old ones. We've had many new ideas over the years,
and the reason being given as to why they are never implemented? Politics, nationalism, patriotism, nation-states and their fight for survival.
We must remove complications to our species in order for it to work smoothly again. Politics is not simple, and there's a really good reason for