Originally posted by chiponbothshoulders
I have struck upon this line of logic before in my mental meanderings several times in the past.
Here are some other ones:
-What would be wrong with mankind reverting back to a more agrarian,self sufficient lifestyle.That is what was intended by the grand design anyway,is
Nothing would be wrong with that but i presume you realise the efficiency implications of being truly self sufficient? Do you realise how much energy
and expertise goes into being self just in terms of food? Would there be a means to gain access to other resources by selling those you produced and
if so how would that end result be much different from the current one?
what would be wrong with people driving less,getting excercise in the outdoors by propelling themselves on a bicycle,instead of being
fat,lazy,fast food eating cel-phone talking heads killing each other on the roads?.
While i agree that being physically unfit have serious consequences for one's mental state i wonder how beneficial it would to spend a good part of
the day walking or cycling to work and back missing out on at least the opportunity to read a good book, water and care for crops in your back yard
or for that matter engage in social actions or organizing? Sure not many people would do it but i believe we can save more of the environment by
efficiently managing our time and energy than we can by attempting to do away with quite efficient means of transport.
-what would be wrong with people having enough brains to home school their own children,and not send them to our "bacterial/viral breeding
That means there will be one less person earning a income which in the modern capitalist economy is for most quite impossible to even consider if work
is at all available. Fact is not forty years ago women could still work four our days and in so doing contribute more than enough to run a family but
these days it's become all but impossible for most to do without another salary. Obviously this has come about due to the actions of the people we
are discussing but it hardly changes the fact that it has happened.
-What would be wrong with people doing more work toward their own survival,instead of going to some store for everything,and forgetting how to
feed and maintain their own selves?.
Because after ten-12 hours at the office/in traffic/getting ready for work you have done about as much as you can stomach to arrange for your
survival. I wonder why you think Americans especially, who work the longest hours in the western world ( including Japan, South Korea and Taiwan),
don't care about survival and don't work very hard at it! Maybe you are not the one who understands what one has to do to thrive in the not so free
-What would be wrong with people relying less on technologies to get by,and not destroying the ecosystems which they really rely on to
survive,in the process of making all that silly junk we don't need?.
People employ technology in many ways and mostly to allow for keeping up with the pace of modern life. It simply mostly allows for higher efficiency
and that's why people are not going to consider doing without! As for the destruction of the environment 'we' are not doing it and have
consistently voted for environment protection regulations which our various governments fails to enforce them as they were tasked to.
-What would be wrong with allowing a child to learn to think on his/her own,before polluting his/her mind with religious brainwashing,leaving
the child with the choice of what BS religion to choose?.They are all in fact just mind control...
Sure but what are you supposed to do with the kid if you can hardly get by one one salary? If he does not gain a formal education and at least learns
what his supposed to say to gain credentials what is the chances that he is going to manage anything other than surviving in our service based
NOTHING WOULD BE WRONG WITH ANY OF THESE THINGS
Maybe not when all taken together ( a very different society) or if we could pick one but any random number of them is going to make the average
citizen of a western country pretty uncompetitive in his local job market. Good luck ....
I am so disappointed at what a bunch of worthless,lost,mis-guided idiots my race has become.
So where do you think our current living standards comes from? Do you think humanity achieved it's current freedoms ,such as they are('nt) , without
great cost to many? Do you think idiots would have achieved this? Maybe you need to read up on modern American history so you may notice that not a
hundred years ago workers were still shot and killed for protesting 'illegally' and some neighbourhoods firebombed ( by army planes) to suppress
'rioting'. Progress IS happening and if it's not happening fast enough for you take some time out and consider if it's really a lack of mental
capacity or 'laziness' or mostly due to the actions of those who wish to keep the power they have gained over the last few centuries.
Lazy,fat,fast food inhaling media whores and junkies,with no real ambition,other than to agrandise themselves,and pretend they are their own
little emperors,when in reality they are a bunch of stupid cattle being bred,farmed and raised for slaughter,to feed some corrupt medical system,and
have their organs harvested for the profit of the doctors and hospitals,without compensation to the families of those who died.
So the fact that Americans ( who seem to be the model for this lazy/fat/stupid argument) work more hours than everyone else never came up in your
'research'? How is that lazy and what does fat matter when you have a car to get to work? Sure people have become accustomed to pretentious
behaviour but what are we supposed to do when we are watched like hawks by dozens of 'managers' who do nothing productive? As for the rest i don't
think it's quite that bad even if it's obviously far far worse than most countries who bother to call themselves civilized....
Why fight what is right?,we would be better off without most of what we take for granted.
Oh we never had much choice in the matter and for the best part were dragged kicking and screaming ( if we didn't want to risk getting clubbed to
death or at least back to a generally prone position) to where we currently are. Sure many got up and tried to stay up but they forget to mention how
many Indians were killed for attempting passive resistance against imperial domination. It's not so easy and frankly human beings are not stupid
enough to risk their necks if they can find ways in which to get by; survival is the choice 99% pick as long as the possibility exists at all.
If nothing in this life is free,we should use less,not go into debt to get what we WANT,when we already have what we need in
What do we have in excess these days that we did not work for while enriching bosses of various descriptions? Why would you want to get by with less
simply to prove a moot point? Don't you think most people want a simpler life but give up because they just can't find a way?
We are reaping our rewards for being complacent and ignorant,I will sit off to the side and watch the carnage.
Speak for yourself, please, and do feel free to continue to sit out on the very real struggle you don't even seem to be aware of. I suppose i should
not get angry as most people do seem unaware of the price previous generations had to pay to achieve even the modest freedoms we enjoy today.