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Answer a thousand more questions that I have and maybe you might get my attention
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Originally posted by HuntaXX
it seems obvious to me that the majority of the media in the western world is controlled by one group and if they are trying to paint the Illuminati as evil then why are they using mass media to manipulate the masses on so many other topics but not these most important ones? its clear they are so arrogant they dont care if our 1% - 5% or whatever number it is of above average intelligence people know the truth so being too subtle about the way they "leak their secrets" would be a slow and inefficient way to try to taint our minds with lies considering how few of us there really are percentage wise and how easily they brainwash the majority of people. what are your thoughts on this?
I agree that the mass-media is godawful and "part of the problem". That would seem to be "a hole in my theory" if you will.
This is why I cant claim there is no global conspiracy happening at all. I can only say for certain that some of the groups and ideologies its been blamed on are not the guilty ones. WHO THEN is responsible for this mess? That would then be the next question and one of the purposes for spending time at this website.
I´d say that WE are responsible to 50% because of our demand for this kind of media...which oscillates between the mundane britney-spears type junk-food news and the extremely negative.
Some of what is posted here at ATS though is not an alternative to mass-media-indoctrination, its a continuation of the brainwash.
The brainwash is basically setting up different polarities against each other, especially stereotype ones at that.
left wing vs. right wing
religion vs. atheism
and a few thousand others.
The Machiavellian act of setting up two stereotypes while being the "third power" is reminiscent of classical illuminati-conspiracy-theory. But who is it thats doing the set-up? I dont know.
I just know who it is not.
metaldemon2000: are many countries that are either too religiously dominated or some are still having trouble industrializing and they are just not ready. In this case non disclosure seems adequate.
azure heart: Call me an eternal optimist, but I think we are trying to move towards a positive future.
BluByWho:
What would be so bad about a one world currency?
What would be so bad about a set of laws that applied to everyone?
What would be so bad about a set of world leaders responsible for the whole globe?
I dont think we should have a world president or anything like that, as a matter of fact I think the US needs multiple presidents, either 3 or 5.
Why not a world governing body. Bring on the NWO. Everyone wories about slavery and oppression. If you cant figure out how to control .5% of the worlds population, how on gods green earth are you going to control the masses aka the other 5.7 billion people on planet earth.
Illahee: Phillipe looks pretty normal vs the writer of the book who has obvious reptilian eyes
GhostR1der: I've always been on the fence regarding NWO/illuminati theories etc. Bilderberg group is one thing that I have always wondered about... what DO they actually stand for and what DO they do......
Ace-Wombat04: I ask that anyone who reads this please keep in mind that this is predicated on the hypothetical scenario in which a secret, global "over-order" does exist.
zenfish: All right. But apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine,
public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system, public
health and safety... What have the Romans ever done for us?
EyeOfEagle: Answer a thousand more questions that I have and maybe you might get my attention.
Equinox: What if some of the Reverse-Conspiracy-Theory is wrong?
indierockalien: SOMETHING is leading our minds in another direction intentionally. There is enough evidence to show that there are forces working actively against empathy FAR beyond simple human self indulgence. I just couldn't tell you who.
violet: Skyfloating, I apologize if I'm misunderstanding you, but from your first post it seems you are under the impression that conspiracy theorists develop these ideas from reading literature, thus becoming "brainwashed". The brainwashing can happen on either side for those for or against a particular conspiracy theory. I would agree that most people do get their information this way, but not all. Some who may post on here, may find it safer to provide information in a way that appears they are just repeating other's ideas. I'm certain some members on here know on a close personal level, some of the eilte groups (etc) and have first hand information and experiences that may not have been provided to you, that may enlighten you to have a clearer view on some of the matters you mentioned.
crontab: Besides, elites constantly debate and deliberate on plans of actions. For example look at "Foreign Affairs", the official publication of the CFR.
hunta: i often find the truth lies somewhere in between both extremes
Originally posted by HuntaXX
Im always happy to keep an open mind to all possibilities but im completely certain that there is a dark force working against our progression
* "The Illuminati" are "the enlightened ones" - forces of progress, goodwill and enlightenment.
"Around the edges of the capstone are written more words repeated in the four "dead" languages of Sanskrit, Babylonian Cuneiform, Egyptian Hieroglyphics and Classical Greek. They translate: "Let These Be Guidestones To An Age Of Reason."
* The opponents of "the illuminati" are the forces of death, bigotry, stupidity, oppression, suppresion.
* The "New World Order" will not be a totalitarian surveillance state but a "New Age" of beauty, freedom, diversity, self-determination, peace and prosperity.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
I agree that the mass-media is godawful and "part of the problem". That would seem to be "a hole in my theory" if you will.
This is why I cant claim there is no global conspiracy happening at all.
I can only say for certain that some of the groups and ideologies its been blamed on are not the guilty ones.
WHO THEN is responsible for this mess?
That would then be the next question and one of the purposes for spending time at this website.
I´d say that WE are responsible to 50% because of our demand for this kind of media...which oscillates between the mundane britney-spears type junk-food news and the extremely negative.
Some of what is posted here at ATS though is not an alternative to mass-media-indoctrination, its a continuation of the brainwash.
The brainwash is basically setting up different polarities against each other, especially stereotype ones at that.
left wing vs. right wing
religion vs. atheism
and a few thousand others.
The Machiavellian act of setting up two stereotypes while being the "third power" is reminiscent of classical illuminati-conspiracy-theory. But who is it thats doing the set-up? I dont know.
I just know who it is not.
Originally posted by atlasastro
Originally posted by andy1033
The illuminati are elitests, so they too, are wrong, in a way too. How can they call people racist, when they only inter marry certain family lines. Thats a racist outlook.
So there is one thing that goes against the outlook you portrayed.
This is exactly what the OP is talking about. You sound like Alex Jones. Its another "reported" evil trait.....the inbreding evil elite. I think the OP makes a valid point......maybe its time to turn the Microscope on those that build these conspiracy theories, what is the agenda in the fear mongering through all this "evil" tagging of certain sub-cultures that we label Elitist, secretive and exclusive.