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posted on May, 26 2008 @ 11:21 PM
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This posting was in error and resulted in a second posting of (11) so it has been removed.

[edit on 26-5-2008 by counterterrorist]

[edit on 26-5-2008 by counterterrorist]




posted on May, 26 2008 @ 11:22 PM
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(11) UNDERGROUND REICH & WTC/911 & MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD & 2012

A paper prepared by the Army War College compared the Bush administration’s over-reaching of available military resources to Hitler’s strategic mistake in World War II.
(FTR#442 www.spitfirelist.com...

Emory:

Yockeyism is central to understanding the events in, and around, 9/11. This manifestation of fascism aims at uniting elements of the left, the Third World and the Underground Reich in an alliance aimed at annihilating the world’s Jewish population and destroying the United States and its culture
.
(FTR#’s 236 www.spitfirelist.com... , 260 www.spitfirelist.com... , 270 www.spitfirelist.com... , 312 www.spitfirelist.com... , 371 www.spitfirelist.com... , 383 www.spitfirelist.com...


Economic destruction or subjugation is central to the Underground Reich offensive against the U.S. Bush is slashing revenues while building up for war.
(FTR#’s 327 www.spitfirelist.com... , 344 www.spitfirelist.com... , 345 www.spitfirelist.com... , 353 www.spitfirelist.com... , 359 www.spitfirelist.com... , 365 www.spitfirelist.com... , 366 www.spitfirelist.com... , 378 www.spitfirelist.com... , 395 www.spitfirelist.com... , 407 www.spitfirelist.com... , 412 www.spitfirelist.com... , 441 www.spitfirelist.com... , 442 www.spitfirelist.com...


A central factor in the consideration of the US/Iraq confrontation is the fact that Iraq became the first OPEC country to denominate its oil in Euros, reducing the significance of the dollar’s status as a reserve currency.

(FTR#’s 401 www.spitfirelist.com... , 407 www.spitfirelist.com...

The macro-economic contest between the Euro and the dollar manifested itself in the contest between Boeing and its European rival EADS (manufacturer of the Airbus).
(FTR#407 www.spitfirelist.com... )

Muslim elements have proposed that, in retaliation for the Iraq war, Muslims should shun the dollar in favor of the Euro. (FTR#407 www.spitfirelist.com...

The change in Saudi Arabia’s stance on Iraq in early 2003 is noteworthy.
(FTR#’s 395 www.spitfirelist.com... , 403 www.spitfirelist.com... )

Has a deal been cut between the Saudis and the Bush administration on Iraq?
(FTR#’s 395 www.spitfirelist.com... , 403 www.spitfirelist.com... , 438 www.spitfirelist.com...

Have the Saudis agreed to let the US use bases in Iraq in exchange for the Bush administration’s suppression of investigations into the Saudi role in 9/11?
(FTR#’s 395 www.spitfirelist.com... , 403 www.spitfirelist.com...

Will the Saudis also be helping to defray the cost of rebuilding Iraq after a US-led war?
(FTR#’s 395 www.spitfirelist.com... , 403 www.spitfirelist.com...

Will Saudi bin Laden Group get any of the construction contracts in a post-war Iraq?
(FTR#’s 395 www.spitfirelist.com... , 403 www.spitfirelist.com...

Will the Shiite Muslim majority in Iraq be subordinated to Wahhabi influence?
(FTR#’s 395 www.spitfirelist.com... , 403 www.spitfirelist.com...

Dick Cheney’s daughter Elizabeth is the State Department official in charge of coordinating policy with the “friendly” states of the Gulf
(FTR#395 www.spitfirelist.com...

While building up the military and drastically slashing taxes, the Bush administration has set the stage for the accumulation of $44, 200bn in total budget deficits—roughly ten times the publicly held national debt
(FTR#412 www.spitfirelist.com...

Grover Norquist is the point man for the administration’s tax-cutting efforts and also the point man for the Islamist connection to the Republican Party’s ethnic outreach organization.
(FTR#’s 356 www.spitfirelist.com... , 357 www.spitfirelist.com... , 400 www.spitfirelist.com... , 407 www.spitfirelist.com... , 415 www.spitfirelist.com... , 433 www.spitfirelist.com... , 435 www.spitfirelist.com... , 447 www.spitfirelist.com...


[edit on 26-5-2008 by counterterrorist]



posted on May, 26 2008 @ 11:23 PM
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(12) UNDERGROUND REICH & WTC/911 & MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD & 2012

Emory:

Just as Operation Safehaven (the Treasury Department intelligence operation aimed at interdicting the Bormann flight capital program) was interdicted by economic interests allied with the Third Reich, so the Treasury’s limited efforts under OPERATION GREEN QUEST were opposed by powerful financial institutions allied with the Underground Reich.
(FTR#’s 353 www.spitfirelist.com... , 356 www.spitfirelist.com... , 366 www.spitfirelist.com... , 367 www.spitfirelist.com... , 387 www.spitfirelist.com... , 390 www.spitfirelist.com... , 432 www.spitfirelist.com... , 433 www.spitfirelist.com... , 435 www.spitfirelist.com...


Bush associate Talat Othman interceded with (Treasury Secretary) O’Neill

(FTR#’s 356 www.spitfirelist.com... , 462 www.spitfirelist.com... , 464 www.spitfirelist.com... ).


Sullivan & Cromwell headed a consortium opposed to Treasury’s anti-money laundering regulations

(FTR#367 www.spitfirelist.com...


Months later, O’Neill is gone

(FTR#390 www.spitfirelist.com...


It appears the Bush administration is covering up Saudi connections to 9/11

(FTR#’s 403 www.spitfirelist.com... , 423 www.spitfirelist.com... , 425 www.spitfirelist.com... , 447 www.spitfirelist.com... , 450 www.spitfirelist.com... , 454 www.spitfirelist.com... , 462 www.spitfirelist.com... , 464 www.spitfirelist.com... , 467 www.spitfirelist.com...

Emory:

One of the most alarming aspects of the Bush administration’s active cover-up of the Saudi involvement in terror-related activities concerns a directive given to US intelligence agencies not to investigate a Pakistani-based nuclear smuggling ring.

(FTR#’s 447 www.spitfirelist.com... , 450 www.spitfirelist.com... , 454 www.spitfirelist.com...


This directive was given in order to protect the Saudis, who had financed the nuclear ambitions of the Pakistanis and Iraqis.
(FTR#’s 447 www.spitfirelist.com... , 450 www.spitfirelist.com... , 454 www.spitfirelist.com...

Elements of the Underground Reich also figured in the Pakistani nuclear smuggling ring. (FTR#’s 395 www.spitfirelist.com... , 447 www.spitfirelist.com... , 450 www.spitfirelist.com...

International efforts at interdicting the financing of terrorism—Al Taqwa in particular—are breaking down.
(FTR#’s 433 www.spitfirelist.com... , 435 www.spitfirelist.com... , 447 www.spitfirelist.com... , 450 www.spitfirelist.com...

Central to understanding the hypothesis presented is the Nazi tract ‘Serpent’s Walk’.
(FTR#’s 317 www.spitfirelist.com... , 324 www.spitfirelist.com... , 331 www.spitfirelist.com... , 335 www.spitfirelist.com... , 336 www.spitfirelist.com... , 339, 357 www.spitfirelist.com... , 359 www.spitfirelist.com... , 384, 386 www.spitfirelist.com... , 399 www.spitfirelist.com...


In Serpent’s Walk, the Underground Reich’s takeover of the United States follows a devastating bio-terror attack on the United States using genetically engineered micro-organisms. This attack destroys much of the country and leads to a declaration of martial law. Who launched the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11? An unanswered question concerns the possibility of Underground Reich authorship of this event.

(FTR#’s 317 www.spitfirelist.com... , 324 www.spitfirelist.com... , 331 www.spitfirelist.com... , 335 www.spitfirelist.com... , 339, 357 www.spitfirelist.com... , 359 www.spitfirelist.com... , 386 www.spitfirelist.com... , 388 www.spitfirelist.com...

What role might the late Dr. Larry Ford and underground elements associated with the former apartheid government of South Africa have played? (FTR#’ 317 www.spitfirelist.com... , 324 www.spitfirelist.com... , 386 www.spitfirelist.com... , 419 www.spitfirelist.com...

Was the Bayer pharmaceutical firm the intentional beneficiary of the anthrax attacks? (FTR#411 www.spitfirelist.com...



posted on May, 26 2008 @ 11:24 PM
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(13) UNDERGROUND REICH & WTC/911 & MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD & 2012

ANDREAS STRASSMEIR
Emory”

Andreas Strassmeir, the German neo-Nazi, son of former Chancellor Helmut Kohl’s chief of staff and the alleged mastermind of the Oklahoma City Bombing was trying to buy a surplus Boeing 747 from Lufthansa. Was this a foreshadowing of the 9/11 attacks?

(FTR#450 www.spitfirelist.com...

MOHAMMED ATTA
A former U.S. Green Beret working for the Aryan Nations allegedly aided Mohammed Atta in the 9/11 attacks. (FTR#’s 456 www.spitfirelist.com... , 457 www.spitfirelist.com...


The struggle between Anglo-Saxonia (the US and UK) and Germany/EU is highlighted in the context of the politics surrounding the 9/11 attacks. In particular, the programs set forth the significance of the month of August of 1998, the month in which US embassies in Africa were attacked. In that month, the German/EU attack on Menwith Hill commenced, Osama bin Laden ceased using his cell phone to communicate and the cell in Hamburg that launched the 9/11 attacks was already under physical surveillance. These events are intimately related. Taken together, they constitute “the Battle of Menwith Hill.” Significantly, it was bin Laden’s counterintelligence on US signals intelligence capability that enabled him to use his satellite phone as a ruse in order to elude capture by the US at the battle of Tora Bora.
FTR#’s 394 www.spitfirelist.com... and 395 www.spitfirelist.com... , (FTR#396 www.spitfirelist.com...

Emory:

From an investigative standpoint, evidentiary tributaries running from 9/11 to other terrorist incidents including the Oklahoma City bombing, the first World Trade Center attack, the AMIA bombing in Argentina are of more than passing interest.

(FTR#’s 330 www.spitfirelist.com... , 331 www.spitfirelist.com... , 341 www.spitfirelist.com... , 357 www.spitfirelist.com... , 373 www.spitfirelist.com... , 386 www.spitfirelist.com... , 443 www.spitfirelist.com... , 450 www.spitfirelist.com... , 456 www.spitfirelist.com... , 457 www.spitfirelist.com...


Are these points of intersection indicative of Underground Reich authorship of these events, as well as 9/11? There is a marked similarity between the climactic event of The Turner Diaries (the reported inspiration for Timothy McVeigh & Company in the Oklahoma City bombing) and the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon.

FTR#’s 398 www.spitfirelist.com... , 399 www.spitfirelist.com... , 443 www.spitfirelist.com... , 456 www.spitfirelist.com...

THE TURNER DIARIES
William Pierce (author of The Turner Diaries and the head of the neo-Nazi National Alliance) foreshadowed the 9/11 attacks in a 1998 radio broadcast.
(FTR#’s 443 www.spitfirelist.com... , 456 www.spitfirelist.com...

The Turner Diaries also has a foreshadowing of the collapse of the World Trade Center
(FTR#450 www.spitfirelist.com... , 456 www.spitfirelist.com...


FTR#’s 394 www.spitfirelist.com... , 395 www.spitfirelist.com... analyze the German/US intelligence conflicts and what might be called “the Battle of Menwith Hill” in the context of the 9/11 attacks.



The behavior of the German authorities in connection with September 11 is noteworthy and more than a little suspicious. Why did the Germans seek to deflect attention in the direction of US, British and Israeli foreknowledge of the attacks when they had the headquarters of the cell that launched the attacks under surveillance since at least August of 1998?

(FTR#’s 331 www.spitfirelist.com... , 395 www.spitfirelist.com... , 396 www.spitfirelist.com...


Equally alarming is the Germans’ release of Christian Ganczarski, an important Al Qaeda operative. (FTR#393 www.spitfirelist.com...

Eventually, Germany dismissed the investigation against Ganczarski, despite strong evidence that he was an important Al Qaeda operative. (FTR#410 www.spitfirelist.com...



Investigative reporter Daniel Hopsicker has alleged that six of Mohammed Atta’s associates at the Florida flight schools that trained many of the 9/11 pilots were children of the German elite.
(FTR#’s 404 www.spitfirelist.com... , 405 www.spitfirelist.com...


Atta’s sponsorship in Germany was allegedly undertaken by a joint US/German sponsored foundation the Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft—named after one of the founders of the IG Farben chemical cartel. (FTR#408 www.spitfirelist.com... One should note that the German people have very strong democratic and peace-loving instincts, having derived these from the experiences of Two World Wars. The German institutions—the corporations, the BND and the Bundeswehr—learned a very different lesson. They profited from their actions in World War II and transcended the devastation that the German people experienced. They simply learned that there weren’t enough expendable bodies in Germany to realize their aims, and they undertook to use other bodies to effect the program of the Underground Reich.

Like Al Qaeda, the Underground Reich is a “virtual state”—a state without formal geographical borders as such. This “virtual statehood” is one of the characteristics that make both organizations so effective, so elusive, and so difficult to combat.

(FTR#’s 393 www.spitfirelist.com... , 396 www.spitfirelist.com... , 397 www.spitfirelist.com...



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 12:28 AM
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Secret Treaty of Verona & 2008 Lawsuit vs Vatican State in relation to NWO Nazi & neo-Nazi/central bank activities

www.willthomasonline.net...
[1]

According to Baron Manhattan's research:

"The Vatican has large investments with the Rothschilds of Britain, France and America, with the Hambros Bank, with the Credit Suisse in London and Zurich. In the United States it has large investments with the Morgan Bank, the Chase-Manhattan Bank, the First National Bank of New York, the Bankers Trust Company, and others. The Vatican has billions of shares in the most powerful international corporations such as Gulf Oil, Shell, General Motors, Bethlehem Steel, General Electric, International Business Machines, T.W.A., etc. ”


A nationally syndicated Catholic priest has stated,

“The Catholic Church must be the biggest corporation in the United States. We have a branch office in every neighborhood. Our assets and real estate holdings must exceed those of Standard Oil, A.T.&T., and U.S. Steel combined. And our roster of dues-paying members must be second only to the tax rolls of the United States Government.” [The Vatican Billions]


2008
[2] Currently attorneys in San Francisco are suing the Vatican over their refusal to return Nazi loot – see (Mar. 2008) lawsuit against Vatican State to return gold from Holocaust victims teeth & jewelry
www.abovetopsecret.com...

1822
[3] The Secret Treaty of Verona was signed 100 years before the Nazi party was formed. www.abovetopsecret.com... The treaty was signed by 22nd November, 1822. for Austria: METTERNICH, for France: CHATEAUBRIAND, for Prussia: BERNSTET, for Russia: NESSELRODE – and

guarantees these countries will

maintain their monarchies and destroy representative government and destroy freedom of the press and reinforce religion
in making sheeple.

(Ironically, JFK was assassinated on Nov. 22 – which apparently involved Nazis and neo-Nazis.)

1865
[4] Here is related info about keeping monarchies and destroying the U.S. – this is excepted from one of my books quoting the Hazard Circular, which references Eustace Mullins ‘Secrets of the Federal Reserve’ as the source of info on the circular:

The Hazard Circular inserted into London Times, 1865 spoke of Lincoln’s Greenbacks.

“If this mischievous financial policy which has its origin in North America during the late war in that country, shall become endurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous without precedent in the history of the world. The brains, and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That country must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe,”
the circular said.


Note that 'Greenbacks' were U.S. Government-owned-&-printed money, not private bank money. Kennedy’s $2-dollar bills were U.S. Government money NOT Fed money. (Fed money being privately owned by private bankers.)

This implies the Civil War in the U.S. was not really about slavery (which it was not) -- see Eustace Mullins 'Secrets of the Federal Reserve'
www.fdrs.org...
but was about the central banks of England, France, Russia and Germany trying to destroy representative government i.e. Democracy in the U.S. (which the Bush dynasty & Cheney BOE & Fed have succeeded in doing by replacing democracy with fascism and nazism).

[edit on 29-5-2008 by counterterrorist]

[edit on 29-5-2008 by counterterrorist]



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 09:38 AM
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(1-of-6) THE (JESUIT) BLACK POPE RUNS THE WHITE POPE WHO RUNS THE VATICAN BANK THAT RUNS THE BANK OF ENGLAND that runs the Fed-Bundesbank-Bundesbank-Deutche Bank ... The Vatican is the (Jesuit) Holy Roman Empire of Germany transformed from Illuminati & freikorps to WO to NWO to 2012

In the following picture, Ratzinger is Ratzinger, but I don't know who the person on the right is ... I think the person on the right might be the Jesuit General, 'Black Pope' ???? (For a picture see of Pope Benedict Ratzinger and ????, see: www.abovetopsecret.com... )

(Also see: Mar. 2008 lawsuit against Vatican State to return gold from Holocaust victims teeth & jewelry
www.abovetopsecret.com...)

Does the Vatican own your mortgage (part 1)
/willthomasonline/Vatican_Mortgage_Part_1.html" www.willthomasonline.net...

VATICAN SECRET ARCHIVES

The “Vatican Secret Archives” contain two-million items. Forget the DaVinci Code.

Squirreled away in 50 miles of catacombs shelving, this volatile stockpile of scandals dating back over 1,000 years is the real deal.
[Independent May 21/06)

Not long after the Vatican State received sovereignty and $85 million after signing an alliance with Hitler's fascist mentor, Mussolini in 1929, Pope Pius XII dealt with another devil he admired, closing down the Catholic-dominated Center Party, one of the Nazi Socialist Party's strongest opponents. As Jews were being carted away to gas chambers from their ghetto beneath the Vatican's windows, instead of condemning the Holocaust, "

Hitler's Pope” is accused of forbidding monasteries and convents to shelter Jews, and accepting loot stolen from the Nazi's victims.
One 1946 U.S. Treasury document alone shows the Vatican serving as a repository for more than 200 million Swiss francs.


FATHER SATAN



In accord with Jesuit doctrine, Pope Pius XII also allowed Franciscans to force conversions using torture
in Croatia, where priests like Father Krusnoslav Draganovic (indicted for war crimes) and Bishop Ivan Saric (”Hangman of the Serbs”) assisted escaping Nazis. Father Filipovic-Majstorovic commanded a Ustashi torture camp, where 700,000 non-Catholic Jewish and non-Jewish “heretics” were slaughtered with a relish and brutality that shocked even the Nazi SS. Never charged for his crimes, Fra Sotona (“Father Satan”) as inmates called him, was rewarded with gold smuggled out of Croatia by the retreating Germans. [The Vatican in World Politics; Ottawa Citizen Sept 10/00; serbianna.com; US National Archives -CIA www.archives.gov; Unholy Trinity, srpska-mreza.com; The Vatican's Holocaust; biconews.com; liberalslikechrist.org; reformation.org; listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu)

The Vatican's sins in Croatia continued. In 2005, UN chief prosecutor Carla del Ponte charged that a “most wanted” war criminal was being shielded Franciscan monastery by the Vatican hierarchy. A fugitive since 2001, with a $6 million bounty on his head, General Gotovina was charged with crimes against humanity. In a statement that must have challenged the Mossad, Del Ponti told the press, “The Catholic Church has the most advanced intelligence services.” (Trumpet.com Sept 23/05)


ENTER THE BORMANN ORGANIZATION


Other documents detail the Vatican's infamous “Ratline” that spirited as many as 30,000 Nazis out of Germany after the WWII.
Among those rescued by the Holy See were the notorious Gestapo killers Klaus Barbie, Adolph Eichmann, Gustav Wagner, Franz Stangl (head of the Treblinka extermination facility), members of the SS (Super Sadistic) Waffen Galician Division - and the diabolical Dr. Joseph Mengele, the widely feared "Angel of Death” at the Auschwitz death camp. The Vatican assisted these monsters and many more to reach South America and the USA. Catholic officials linked to the Ratline include Bishop Giovanni Montini, who became Pope Paul VI. [atheists.org; srpska-mreza.com; archives.cbc.ca; aracnet.com; Vatican Ratline; hartford-hwp.com; American Atheists Nov 27/00; vaticanbankclaims.com)

In May 1981, John Paul II was shot by Mehmet Ali Agca. The Pope survived, and forgave Agca in prison. Was the KGB indulging in “payback” for the Vatican's role in funneling more than $12,000,000 in covert American funds to the Solidarity Trade Union in Poland - beginning the breakup of the Soviet Union and ensuring the Church's position in a post-Soviet Europe? What did Agca tell the Pope? Independent May 21/06


SO FAR—WORKING TOGETHER ARE THE JESUITS, POPE, VATICAN BORMANN, DULLES, MAFIA, BANK OF ENGLAND, FED, BUNDESBANK


Vatican records could also add to existing court documents tracing “the flow of money from the Corleone Mafia family to investments in the Vatican bank.
” Authorities would love to learn more about Liccio Gelli. The former Italian Black Shirt worked closely with the OSS-CIA after the war, founded the Masonic Lodge P-2, and was later linked to an attempted fascist coup in Italy. A close friend of Argentine President Juan Peron, Gelli used his Vatican connections to supply arms and back the dictator's return to power in 1973. Gelli was also

a central figure in the collapse of the Banco Ambrosiano, as well as the murder of banker Roberto Calvi, who helped the Vatican Bank's American monsignor Paul Marcinkus set up offshore accounts to launder the Papacy's dirty drug and other monies.
(hartford-hwp.com; American Atheists Nov 27/00; vaticanbankclaims.com; atheists.org; puritans.net;mega.nu;mafiascene.com

When Cornwell's book, Hitler's Pope detonated in 1999, Pius was portrayed as a prelate prepared to accept Nazi atrocities to stem the advance of Stalin's “godless communism.” The catacombs slammed shut, and the Church's post-Munich records “remain locked away in the Secret Archive to this day,” the Independent reported. Though 40 selected scholars still get to peek in the Vatican archives every day, they are forbidden to see any documents since Hitler's rise to power in 1939. (Independent May 21/06)


(cont next page)


[edit on 29-5-2008 by counterterrorist]



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 10:07 AM
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(2-of-6) THE (JESUIT) BLACK POPE RUNS THE WHITE POPE WHO RUNS THE VATICAN BANK THAT RUNS THE BANK OF ENGLAND that runs the Fed-Bundesbank-Bundesbank-Deutche Bank ... The Vatican is the (Jesuit) Holy Roman Empire of Germany transformed from Illuminati & freikorps to WO to NWO to 2012 (cont)


“The Vatican is the strongest push for banking in the world,” “When it comes to moving money or not moving money, they are the key. Bank of England. That's where they came from. Everything is a promissory note to the Bank of England. The Federal Reserve doesn't come close.”

Where do U.S. banks get their marching orders?


FEDERAL RESERVE GETS ORDERS FROM BANK OF ENGLAND WHO GETS ORDERS FROM THE VATICAN BANK WHO GETS ORDERS FROM THE JESUIT BLACK POPE WHO ORDERS THE WHITE POPE


From the

Federal Reserve that is constantly in the news setting the interest rates that charge or cripple economies.
Often seen as a U.S. Government agency, the “Fed” is a privately held, for-profit bank that supposedly stands ready to make good on even the dodgiest loans made by U.S. banks that must hold in reserve only 10% of the money they loan. This “fractional reserve banking” means banks can create mortgages & other loans out of thin air. This is ‘fraud’.

In usurping the Constitution, which reserves the sole right to mint U.S. currency at zero interest, the illegal Federal Reserve Act passed during Congressional recess Christmas in 1913 essentially enslaved Americans & their successive governments under a mountain of compounding war debts - before being exported as a model worldwide.


The Federal Reserve Act was created in London by Baron Alfred Rothschild.
Its final draft was decided at a secret meeting of heavy financial hitters held at JP Morgan's Jekyll Island estate in Georgia. Among those present were Senator Nelson Aldrich, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, Paul Warburg, & several senior officials of J.P. Morgan's banks. (Secrets of the Federal Reserve; The Creature from Jekyll Island)


INSTEAD OF OVERTLY FIGHTING EACH OTHER, THE MAJOR BANKS CAME TOGETHER TO FINANCE WWI – ALTHOUGH THEY CONTINUE TO COVERTLY FIGHT GLOBAL TURF WARS I.E. 2012

Hold on, advises G. Edward Griffin, author of The Creature From Jekyll Island.

“We had the Morgans, the Rockefellers, Kuhn, Loeb & Company, the Rothschilds & the Warburgs… These were the major competitors in the field of investment & banking
in those days; these were the giants. Prior to this period they were beating their heads against each other, blood all over the battlefield fighting for dominance in the financial markets of the world.

& here they are sitting around a table coming to an agreement of some kind. They came together completely & decided not to compete - they formed a cartel”
- to print money, collect taxes, & charge interest to the U.S. Government & other borrowing banks on loans made from nothing.

With European banking savvy, Warburg was most knowledgeable banker in the group.”

Voicing the Jesuit agenda, this non-ordained “cohort” will later tell the Senate: "We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
(quotes.liberty-tree.ca)

Mullins writes, “This patent removal of the system from Congressional control meant the Fed proposal was unconstitutional from its inception.” (Secrets of the Federal Reserve)

John Pierpont Morgan was born in 1837 during the first money panic in the United States, said to have been caused by the House of Rothschild. It was this family who later bailed out Morgan's bank, uniting both houses. (Secrets Of The Federal Reserve; cyberclass.net)

According to Eric Jon Phelps, whose prodigious research for Vatican Assassins runs thousands of pages, the executive vice-president of Morgan Bank today is the Sovereign Military Order of Malta's U.S. secretary. “At Morgan Bank's New York headquarters is a telex which links SMOM U.S. to SMOM headquarters in Rome,” Phelps states.

DaVinci Code aside, who are the real Knights of Malta? According to their official website, founded in Jerusalem during the 11th century, the 12,500-strong “Order of Malta is a lay, religious order of the Catholic Church (who) seek to glorify God through… work with the sick & the poor & witness of the Catholic faith.” (smom.org)

This smokescreen site does not mention how this ancient Jesuit order became militarized to hold land won by the first Crusade. Or its many interwoven links with Freemasonry, including the Order's Nazi-borrowed Maltese Cross, which is often depicted with the Roman Empire's double-headed eagle signifying dominion over East & West, above the Masonic inscription: “Order Out of Chaos” - time-proven Mithric recipe used by controlling elites to frighten large populations into begging for the “protection” that enslaves them.

The Knights of Malta include many current heads of state, industry, media & entertainment. For a contemporary example, check out right-wing Christian extremist Joseph Schmitz. Operating under his department shield - “Always Under The Protection Of The Almighty” - this Pentagon's Inspector general brought scandal after scandal to the almighty while overseeing military contractors for the Bush White House from 2200 to 2005. At least 149 contracts totaling more than $42 billion were covered-up by Schmitz as corporations like Halliburton, KBR, Bechtel, Flour, CACA, Triple Canopy, Dyn Corp & Blackwater cashed in on the crushing of urban Iraq. Schmitz blocked many Congressional probes into graft, corruption & profiteering by such Luciferian-style “luminaries” as Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Perle,

Iraq's first U.S.-appointed warlord Paul Bremer, & Army Lt. Gen. William Boykin - who called Allah “an idol,”
& implicated God in massive vote-rigging by saying that God put GW Bush in the White House after the majority of Americans voted against him.


ENTER THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD aka BIN LADEN’S AL QAEDA DATABASE OF MERCENARY NEO-NAZI’S & FASCIST ARABS MUHAJIDIN WAHHABI SECT OUTLAWED BY ISLAM


Under heavy fire for blocking investigations into Abu Ghraib torture & Edward Aldridge's Boeing tanker scam, Schmitz resigned from the Bush gang to join Catholic Christian fundamentalist Eric Prince's Blackwater mercenaries in 2005. As crazed as any Taliban radical calling for a return to strict Sharia law, the
Pentagon's Schmitz called repeatedly for a government & military “under the rule of law under God.” He also - as Jeremy Scahill writes in Blackwater - “proudly listed his membership in the Sovereign Military Order of Malta.”


[edit on 29-5-2008 by counterterrorist]



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 10:20 AM
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(3-of-6) THE (JESUIT) BLACK POPE RUNS THE WHITE POPE WHO RUNS THE VATICAN BANK THAT RUNS THE BANK OF ENGLAND that runs the Fed-Bundesbank-Bundesbank-Deutche Bank ... The Vatican is the (Jesuit) Holy Roman Empire of Germany transformed from Illuminati & freikorps to WO to NWO to 2012 (cont)


The Knights of Malta, as we have seen, also enjoy direct input to the Fed through the Morgan Bank.

By June 1932, Congressman Louis McFadden was fed up with the Fed. “We have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks… private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves,” the Chair of the House Committee on Banking and Currency told the House of Representatives.

“The United States has been ransacked and pillaged…The truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States. It controls everything here… to supply financial power to an international super state - a super state controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world.”


Meeting in private with the presidents of the 12 Federal Reserve Banks, the Federal Reserve Board of Governors “controls all economic activity throughout the United States,” Mullins explains,
“creating money out of nothing” - and manipulating money markets and employment by setting interest rates for the billions of dollars in government bonds floated daily to keep a seriously bankrupt economy afloat. (Secrets of the Federal Reserve)


Since Federal Reserve Bank major private shareholders are meant to be “unknown to the public”, lets name them:

Rothschild Bank Of London
Warburg Bank Of Hamburg
Rothschild Bank Of Berlin
Lehman Brothers Of New York
Lazard Brothers Of Paris
Kuhn Loeb Bank Of New York
Israel Moses Seif Banks Of Italy
Goldman-Sachs Of New York
Warburg Bank Of Amsterdam
Chase Manhattan Bank Of New York
www.vaticanassassins.org www.vaticanassassins.org...


ALSO, see extensive charts of ownership at www.my2012.4t.com...


Those dollars in your wallet are actually “Federal Reserve notes”. These “promises to pay” are not items of intrinsic value called “money”. Regardless of denomination, each bill printed by the Bureau of Printing and Engraving in D.C. on contract from the privately held Federal Reserve is actually worth exactly three-tenths of one penny.

No wonder the Fed's founder, Nathan Rothschild, once boasted: "Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws." The privately printed .3 cent thousand-dollar bills streaming in sheets off the presses become “liabilities and obligations of the United States Government, and are added to our present ($6) trillion debt,” Mullins mentions. “The government had no debt when the Federal Reserve Act was passed in 1913.” (Secrets of the Federal Reserve) www.fdrs.org...


THE IRS WAS FOUNDED SOLELY TO FINANCE WWI & TO PAY INTEREST ON FRACTIONAL BANKING MYTHOLOGY

In case you're wondering, the never properly ratified U.S. income tax was also introduced by busy banksters in 1913 as the only means to finance the wars that ensure perpetual profits from pyramiding public and corporate debt. The U.S. “Federal Income Tax” is not “federal” either.

According to attorney, author and federal witness, Paul Andrew Mitchell, “After much diligent research, several investigators have concluded that there is no known Act of Congress, nor any Executive Order, giving IRS lawful jurisdiction to operate within any of the 50 States of the Union.… When all the evidence is examined objectively, IRS appears to be a money laundry, extortion racket, and conspiracy to engage in a pattern of racketeering activity, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1951 and 1961 et seq. (“RICO”)… In other words, it is an organized crime syndicate operating under false and fraudulent pretenses.”

As Eustace Mullins helpfully explains - and Aaron Russo's DVD “America: Freedom To Fascism” demonstrates –

“The IRS is actually a private collection agency for the Federal Reserve System. It originated as the Black Hand in mediaeval Italy, collectors of debt by force and extortion for the ruling Italian mob families.
All personal income taxes collected by the IRS are required by law to be deposited in the nearest Federal Reserve Bank.”

In other words, into the pockets of the Rothschilds, Warburgs, Schiffs, Rockefellers, Harrimans, Morgans and other elite families. Slick, eh? But don't try to buy any of this hot Fed stock. “The Federal Reserve Act stipulates that the stock of the Federal Reserve Banks cannot be bought or sold on any stock exchange. It is passed on by inheritance as the fortune of the 'big rich',” Mullins relates. “Almost half of the owners of Federal Reserve Bank stock are not Americans.”

These “foreign” owners include the Fed's originators, the Vatican Jesuits.

The Fed gets its orders from the Queen Mum of All Banks, the Bank of England - aka, the Bank of Rothschild. Considered by many to be the world's most powerful institution - the power behind all presidencies, dictatorships and thrones –

does the Bank of England answer to any other bank? Well, yes, actually. The Bank of Rome began opening branch offices in Venice in 1587. Bank of Rome = Vatican Bank controlled by the Jesuit General, aka the “Black” (hidden, shadowy) Pope. The Jesuit's Bank of Rome opened its Bank of England branch in 1694. The first bank to be named after a country, the Bank of England had nothing to do with the British government - except to own it through privately held, interest-compounded debt.

(See Paul Grignon's "Money Is Debt" animation video.google.com...


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THE CITY OF LONDON IS THE EARTH’S FINANCIAL AXIS OF SLAVERY, FASCISM & NEO-NAZISM & GENOCIDE

Unaccountable to either the Queen or Parliament, the misleadingly labeled “Bank of England” finances the throne, the British prime minister, parliament and much of the planet out of “The City” located in central London.

All major British banks have their main offices in this “Square Mile” -- as well as 70 U.S. banks. Throw in the London Stock Exchange, Lloyd's of London, the Baltic Exchange (shipping), Fleet Street (publishing and newspapers), the London Commodity and Metal exchanges - and you are looking at Earth's financial axis.
[Descent into Slavery)

The City operates as a sovereign state, just like the Vatican. Since 1820, the Rothschilds have traditionally chosen The City's Lord Mayor. Back in the USA, as author Eric Phelps explained in an interview just before publication of his secrecy-shredding Vatican Assassins, (which was held up to include corrections by sympathetic Jesuits)



...the Vatican's Black Robes “own and control” the Federal Reserve Bank “by proxy, through the Knights of Malta, with their various trusts and so on. They never own anything outright; they always own it through a trusted third party.”

Including the Vatican-home mortgage connection.

“That the Jesuits were the disturbers of kingdoms, the oppressors of nations, the masters of the world, I freely admit.” -Marcel de la Roche Arnauld, Roman Catholic Priest (1827)


THE BANK OF ROME OF THE HOLY ROMAN GERMAN EMPIRE


“All roads do lead to Rome,” We have the Federal Reserve begat by the Bank of England begat by the Bank of Rome. Similarly, the Bank of Canada is an offspring of the Bank of England, which in turn is a child of the Bank of Rome - aka, the Vatican Bank.



And the Vatican, as everyone “knows” is run by the CNN-featured “White” Pope. Left untranslated is the coronation moment when the new Pontiff is told in Latin: “Take thou the tiara adorned with the triple crown, and know that thou art the father of princes and kings, and art the governor of the world.” [Vatican Assassins)
So who runs the White Pope?

Goggle the,shadowy Black Pope, The Jesuit General.

The Jesuits, dude.

According to Baron Avro Manhattan, author of a jaw-dropping series of Vatican books, “Many historians and researchers and one American Congressman stated that:

'The Vatican through the Jesuit Order controlling the Illuminati is in control of the United States Federal Reserve.'” [Vatican Billions by Avro Manhattan)



If “Illuminati” sounds too “conspiratorial” it's because it is! The much-misreferenced

“Illuminati” turns out to be a real 15th century German sect established by the Jesuit Adam Weishaupt at the Jesuit's University of Ingolstadt in Bavaria on May 1, 1776.
The Jesuits had been tossed out Rome and every country in Europe for their back-stabbing treachery. As Phelps explained to interviewer Rick Martin: “Weishaupt was the promoter of the Illuminati, with the House of Rothschild, for the punishment of the Catholic monarchs of Europe, and the Pope, for suppressing the Jesuit Order. Weishaupt was under the supervision, at least initially, of Jesuit General Ricci, who died in 1775 in Italy. Weishaupt was under orders.” (TheSpectrumNews.org; illuminati-news.com)

Go that? The “Illuminati” is a real org founded by the Jesuits at their own German university in the 18th century. In his big book, Phelps explains how the Illuminati took over the House of Rothschild, “creating a colossus of wealth around the world, subject to the Jesuit General.” (Vatican Assassins)



Lucifer means the “illuminated one”. The Bavarian Illuminati believed they possessed the 'light' Lucifer ripped off when he became Satan.

For “Illuminati” today read the Freemasons, Skull and Bones, Counsel on Foreign Relation, the Bilderberger Group, the Trilateral Commission - all real entities with street addresses, exclusive executive meetings, and website masquerades.

Don't roll your eyes. The “illuminated ones” want you to tune out… “They” include men like Pierre Jay. Initiated into the Order of Skull and Bones in 1892, Jay, became the first Chairman of the New York Federal Reserve Bank. A dozen other members of the Federal Reserve are linked to this same dis-Order. [The Secrets of the Federal Reserve)


GW's granddad, Prescott Bush joined Skull and Bones in 1917. Two years later, Adolph Hitler joined the freaky German Skull and Bones society, the Brotherhood of Death.
It is well documented that as a director of the London-affiliated New York banking house, Brown Brothers-Harriman, Prescott Bush funded Hitler's political comeback. But no official account mentions that the Harriman Bank, with its various money-moving fronts, was owned and directed by the Rothschild's, who, as the banking bloodline controlling the Central Bank of England, got their money from the Jesuit's Bank of Rome.

This does not mean that the Vatican gets on the phone and issues interest rate changes to the Bank of England and the Fed. Banking at the top doesn't work like that. Rather, the folks taking the bankers' calls are FX money traders who set the currency valuations that influence interest rates and determine the fate of countries - and home mortgage holders.

The so-called “globalist conspiracy” of Knights, Masons and Bilderberg attendees is really a network of influential industrialists, politicians and media heads who meet regularly in private to "'to clear up differences and misunderstandings" - and persuade invited skeptics to join their new world bankers paradise. They do not occupy some mythical control room pushing buttons that change the players and scenery on the world stage. They don't have to. Bankers and the Vatican follow a much simpler Golden Rule: "Those with the gold make the rules."



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Does the Vatican ownyour mortgage? (part 2)
www.willthomasonline.net...

THE VATICAN (THE CHURCH)... & VATICAN CITY (THE STATE) ... EACH HAVE SEPARATE BANK ACCOUNTS


The Vatican likes to point out that it's going broke running Vatican City. But Cardinal Edmund Szoka, the Vatican's unofficial finance minister, told Money Week that the Vatican's assets total some $5 billion. Vatican City “has a separate financial statement,” he added.


“But this is just a small portion of the wealth of the Vatican, which in the U.S. alone, is greater than that of the five wealthiest giant corporations of the country,” Baron Manhattan explains. “The Catholic church is the biggest financial power, wealth accumulator and property owner in existence.” (Vatican Billions)



Don't forget to throw in more than 18,000 works of art. (Fortune Dec 21/87)

The Vatican's gold treasure alone has been estimated by the United Nations World Magazine to amount to several billion dollars. The Independent has independently confirmed that

“the Vatican Bank - Istituto per le Opere di Religione - manages more than $4 billion in assets. It does not reveal its profits or dividends, which are paid directly to the Pope. It enjoys the status of a central bank and has a dealing room adorned with crucifixes and papal portraits where 20 traders work .” (Independent Apr 19/02)


VATICAN CITY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MORTGAGE CRISES

According to Hank's Jesuit Vatican informant, the world's ultimate Vatican bankers “wanted to make sure there was enough confusion, and enough information going all over the place that no one would pay attention to” their current cover-up in the catacombs.

So they fomented the mortgage mess.

“It was never just a U.S. problem. It was a banking problem. Bank to bank,” Hank agreed. “But they typically don't risk holding other banks' lines of credit.”


GIVEN FRACTIONAL BANKING – IT COSTS THEM NOTHING – IT’S MYTHOLOGY TO DISQUISE SLAVE OWNERSHIP

The German Finance Minister, Peter Steinbruck was the first to break the international banking cartel's taboo of silence. "The managers' arrogance we have witnessed, has ended in disaster,” he told the press.

“Certain German banks have been very exposed to the subprime crisis that has been shaking the financial world since last summer
… The fog that surrounds German, British and American banks is beginning to spread around… to the point that some are wondering whether their quarterly accounts are really reporting all the latent risks… Several months have gone by and some managers still don't know how much this crisis is going to cost them."



The problem, Steinbruck went on, is that “the more banks' capital decreases, the less they can lend.” [Le Figaro Dec 5/07)

This means a major credit crunch. When people buy less, the economy contracts. At least in “temp worker” USA, where planet-wrecking consumer spending accounts for 70% of the economy. (Nation Jan 9/08)

“The mortgage industry is on life-support. Many of the ways that the banks were generating profits have vanished overnight,” figures financial analyst Mike Whitney. With banks holding at least $550 billion in admitted mortgage-backed securities and “off balance sheet” debt, “mortgages, car loans, credit card debt (have) ground to a halt.”

The numbers are gigantic and growing. CoreLogic estimates that

if home prices fall 30% as expected, more than 20 million American homeowners won't be homeowners anymore.
“What's going on in the markets isn't an irrational panic,” Paul Krugman comments at the New York Times. “It's a wholly rational panic, because there's a lot of bad debt out there, and you don't know how much of that bad debt is held by the guy who wants to borrow your money.”.



Don't forget Bush's ongoing military adventures, which have so far killed more one than one million people in Iraq, made endless enemies of the USA, and cost Americans $1,600 billion dollars - heading for $3,500 billion. (La Presse Nov 15/07)


Where will that money come from?


As the crisis deepens,

the Federal Reserve Board has just reported that Americans no longer able to borrow against their homes
are maxing their credit cards at a ferocious clip.

With total outstanding credit card debt already around $940 billion, and mortgage debt increasing by $730 billion every 12 months,
the foreclosure crisis is spreading like a contagion from the subprime junk mortgage market to A-prime mortgage holders. In an economy addicted to “pay later” spending,

homeowners facing equity losses of more than $2.2 trillion in 2008 are about to “sharply curtail” their consumption.
And default on their loans. [Center for Economic and Policy Research Jan 9/08)

Citing “higher oil prices” and “softening” home values, on January 2, 2008 Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke pledged to prevent a recession and risk high inflation by dropping the yield on two-year Treasury bonds - easing credit in the U.S. and inviting lenders to switch to the Euro. [Bloomberg Jan 12/08]


RETURN TO THE DARK AGES … OF THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE OF GERMANY

“It's like the Dark Ages,” one banker told the Financial Times in what must have sounded like a Knight named Sinatra singing a Vatican aria. After all, it was the Jesuit's founder, Ignatius Loyola, who “purposed to restore the Dark Ages” in order to establish an allegedly infallible Pope as “Universal Monarch of the World ruling all Nations.” [The Jesuits: Their Complete History]

Bloomberg believes that because “foreign investors believe they were hoodwinked by bonds that were deliberately mis-rated to maximize profits” for U.S. banks, “European and Asian investors will avoid most US mortgage-backed securities for years.” Which may explain why $882 billion was “diverted into Chinese and Indian stock markets” in one month alone.


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880 BILLION DOLLARS WAS DIVERTED INTO CHINESE & INDIAN STOCKMARKETS IN ONE MONTH


Which may explain why $882 billion was “diverted into Chinese and Indian stock markets” in one month alone. That's a big number. But U.S. homeowners “stand to lose as much as $8 trillion in equity,
” declares Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. “There is no way to fix the problem.” (truthout Dec 10/07)

The “problemo” caused by the home mortgage blowout is no longer lack of liquidity, but “a fundamental problem of solvency,” Krugman concurs. “Anyone who expects the Fed or anyone else to come up with a plan that makes this financial crisis just go away will be sorely disappointed.” (New York Times Nov 23/07; New York Times Dec 14/07)


“The Vatican is the Holy Roman Empire,” he reiterated. “Simply the continuation since the days of Christ. And they intend to keep on going. Replace China with Mexico, things like that.
If they have the ability to do that worldwide, and as soon as anything threatens them they knee jerk and entire economies fall. The housing bubble had to be built over decades. And in a week it crashed out. What else has been built like that?”


RATZINGER IS A BEAN COUNTER

“And Ratsinger is not the person to be steering that ship. He's a bean counter. He's a fellow who is taking his orders form somewhere else (the Jesuits) and implementing their will on people who are trusting him…

FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD ABOLITION ACT HR 2755

The Big Solution, of course, is abolish the Federal Reserve. On June 15, 2007, Rep. Ron Paul introduced the Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act HR 2755 "To abolish the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks, and repeal the Federal Reserve Act."


As govtrack.us noted on December 9, 2007: "Introduced bills go first to committees that deliberate, investigate, and revise them before they go to general debate. (HR2755 went to the House Committee on Financial Services.) The majority of bills never make it out of committee. Keep in mind that sometimes the text of one bill is incorporated into another bill, and in those cases the original bill, as it would appear here, would seem to be abandoned."


Also see No. 2 at The top 3 unknown conspiracies of our lifetimes (about predator priests in general, www.abovetopsecret.com... where several powerful trailers and videos have urls – this rounds out the picture of the sovereign Vatican State ... a Satanic Illuminati shapeshifting reptilian grey alien source of EVIL which is a deadly virus to compassion, health, freedom, happiness, equality and survival.

(By the way, here's my post to Jim Marrs as to his new book coming out, The Fourth Reich -- "congrats on your new book ...The Rise of the Fourth Reich -- I have a couple questions.
www.abovetopsecret.com... The book's due out in Summer 2008 I think, which is pretty soon. I ask him about 20 questions and really hope he responds to me.)

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SOVEREIGN MILITARY ORDER OF THE KNIGHTS OF MALTA (SMOM)

(I'm going to be researching the Jesuit 'Black' pope (see previous 6 replies) for a couple days more, so that I'm in a position to ask an intelligent question to an acquaintance who is a Jesuit and worked in the Vatican State diplomatic office in Washington D.C., who's also an attorney and Military Chaplain, Tom D.)

Tom identified the mystery person in the right in the photo at www.abovetopsecret.com... to the right of Pope Benedict Ratzinger. The mystery person (also shown in the photo below,) is



His Most Eminent Highness, The Prince and Grand Master of The Sovereign Knights of Malta, Fra’ Andrew Willoughby Ninian Bertie (elected May 8, 1988 – died, Jan, 2008) There's more about him at the bottom of the page.

(I'll research who replaced him and get back on this later).

Suffice it to say is that SMOM bill themselves as a "good will" group helping poor people -- EXCEPT in reality they awarded some of their highest honors to people like Reinhard Gehlen, Allen Dulles, and Ronald Reagan. Reinhard Gehlen, of course, is responsible for the murder of millions of Russians and Europeans and Americans while he was head of Intelligence for Foreign Armies East (to whom Foreign Armies West) reported, before being drafted into the CIA to run anti-Soviet intelligence for them, and also run intelligence for NATO, and also run intelligence for the New Germany, and also was a part of ODESSA and liaisoned with Martin Bormann and also Nazi Otto Skorzeny, head of post-war intelligence in Franco's Spain and in post-war Nassar's Egypt.

Here are their insignia, from Vatican Assassins, a site I'm not real familiar with enough to find all the documentation (if there is any) documenting the site author's claims. On the box on the left, you can click 'Bertie', that leads to the insigia vaticanassassins.org...


ARMS OF THE ORDER
Insignia of the Sovereign Military Knights of Malta – a separate state aka a virtual country




Insignia of the Prince and Grand Master



INSIGNIA OF A KNIGHT OF JUSTICE



INSIGNIA OF A KNIGHT OF HONOR AND DEVOTION



INSIGNIA OF A KNIGHT OF GRACE AND DEVOTION


INSIGNIA OF A KNIGHT OF MAGISTRAL GRACE



INSIGNIA OF A DONAT OF DEVOTION

THE ORDER OF MERIT
The Order of Merit was founded 1916 for the Grand Priory of Bohemia & Austria, and extended to the whole Order in 1928. The Cross of Merit is now in three divisions – Civil, Military, and Ladies … and can be awarded for service to the Order irrespective of nationality or religion.

There are five degrees for each division: for men, they are Grand Cross, Grand Officer, Commander, Officer and Cross; in the Military Division, these are all “with swords”. For ladies, the degrees are Grand Cross, Cross with Plaque, Cross with Crown, Cross with Shield and Cross. For ecclesiastics the degrees “pro piis meritibus” are Grand Cross and Cross.

The Order of Merit (Military Division) of the Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of Saint John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes, and of Malta.


MEDALS OF MERIT
The Sovereign Military Order of Malta also bestows medals of Merit in two divisions – Civil and Military. There are three degrees for each division, these are Gold, Silver and Bronze. Current practice restricts the issuance of the Gold Medal of Merit to times of war.




The Insignia of Rev. Father Francis Gerard Morrisey, OMI (Magistral Chaplain SMOM; The Cross Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice – Vatican; Cross of the Order of Merit-SMOM

from wikipedia en.wikipedia.org... Andrew Willoughby Ninian Bertie (May 15, 1929 - February 7, 2008) was the 78th and first British Grand Master of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta since 1258, serving for nearly 20 years from 1988 until his death in 2008.

His full title was His Most Eminent Highness Fra Andrew Willoughby Ninian Bertie, Prince and Grand Master of the Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of St. John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes and of Malta, Most Humble Guardian of the Poor of Jesus Christ.[1] He never married and had a younger brother. He was the fourth cousin twice removed of Queen Elizabeth II.

www.nytimes.com...

Fra Bertie was the 78th grand master of the 900-year-old charitable order of laymen. He was elected to lead it in a secret conclave in 1988.

Elected for life, the grand master carries the title of prince, and the position is equal in rank to that of a cardinal. Officially known as the Sovereign Military Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes and of Malta, the group was founded with a pilgrims’ hospice in Jerusalem in the 11th century and has the status of an independent state. It maintains diplomatic relations with 100 nations.

The Knights of Malta has 12,500 members and operates in 120 countries, providing medical and social services, particularly in war zones and impoverished areas.
The grand commander of the order, Fra Giacomo della Torre, was sworn in as interim leader of the group.

Fra Bertie’s father, James, was a foreign exchange dealer at the stock exchange in London. His mother, Lady Jean Crichton-Stuart, was a descendant of the Stuarts, the ruling family of Scotland from 1371 to 1603 and of England and Scotland from 1603 to 1714, with an 11-year interruption in the 17th century.





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The holocaust as we know it never happened. It's a tool used by the elite to control us. Just look at John McCain in a debate. Ron Paul was saying that we should have smaller government, with the federal government having less power (something everyone on this site probably wants, right?). Well, McCain interrupted him and said "Sir, that kind of thing is what brought Hitler to power and got the jews killed." So basically, McCain is using it as a fear machine to convince the people we need bigger, more powerful government. This is how the holocaust has always been used.

Now I said it never happened "as we know it". There was no 'genocide of jews'. Did a lot of Jews die? Yes. Were they killed purposely or 'exterminated'? No.

They were enemy combatants of Germany. In fact, the Jews declared war on Germany first according to themselves in many sources. Were the German soldiers just to allow Enemy Combatants to run free around Germany? No, they locked them up in concentration camps. You know, just like how we here in the USA locked up Japanese in concentration camps during WWII, and how we lock up 'enemy combatants' in GITMO which is a glorified concentration camp that comes with torture.

Did Jews die in these concentration camps? Yes they did, conditions for prisoners were not the best. PoW's never get food brought to them on a silver platter and daily backrubs. Did many Japanese die in our concentration camps during WWII? Yes as well.

The common number of Jews that supposedly were "exterminated" during WWII is 6 million. First of all, it's flat out impossible as there weren't 6 million Jews in Germany according to census records. Furthermore, even if there were 6 million, obviously they didn't all get killed.

Second, it was take approximately 57 years to gas 6 million people, this is assuming the gas chambers are running 24/7. According to "records" (heresay if you ask me) it took on average 4 hours to kill a small group of jews via gas chamber, where after they died, dentists carefully removed gold fillings from their teeth which tooks most of those 4 hours, and then prepped the gas chambers for more small groups of Jews. You can do the math yourself, it's not hard.

But in reality, we are lead to believe 6 millions jews were exterminated over the course of only, what is it, 5 years? Simply, impossible, unless the Germans had time machines.

Another point is, that gas chambers never existed. These so called "gas chambers" that have been found in Aushwitz and other so called "death camps" could not possibly be used as gas chambers. They contained large gaps and were not sealed - any gas would leak out and kill the operator. And these gaps were by design, as recovered blueprints show. The real use of these "gas chambers" was probably storage, for grain and other food.

If these gas chambers were really used for gassing people, traces of the chemicals would be found on the walls, even 60+ years after it happened, no matter hard they cleaned the walls. But no chemical traces have ever been found after numerous tests.

Photos of bodies burning or bodies piled up that supposedly show dead jewish people? Yes, it was war in Europe. There were lots of dead people. What do you do with dead bodies during a war? Do you dig a grave for each one and put a headstone on it? Of course not! You gather the bodies up in piles and put them in a trench and bury them, or burn them. That's how it's always been done, that's how we've done it in every war, and that's how Germany did it.

The holocaust is just another myth, invented to to give a race of people a crutch. It's as ridiculous and unscientific as the notions that the US government created AIDS to kill blacks, like any black will tell you. Despite the fact that the first discovered AIDS victim were white (and gay) IN CANADA.

I'll be posting proof, links, and sources later today. As for now, I'm tired, it's been a long night, going to bed. Ciao.




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(1-of-3) BLACKWATER - SOVEREIGN MILITARY KNIGHTS OF MALTA OVERLAPS CHILD ABUSE

(for a look at SMOM’s sovereignty as a virtual state, see, see ‘SMOM is its own state, a virtual country … interesting, hm?’ www.abovetopsecret.com...

Knight of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta: Joseph E. Schmitz
en.wikipedia.org...

He is a Young Leader Alumnus of the American Council on Germany, and a member of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta.


911review.org...

His prior public service includes: 27 years of naval service, first on active duty and then as a reserve officer, attaining the rank of Captain; Special Assistant to the Attorney General of the United States, Honorable Edwin Meese III

SCHMITZ COULD BE COUNTED ON TO KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT
"Schmitz was appointed to his post by President Bush in 2001 after the Associated Press reported the office

'was caught cheating' and destroying internal documents. His office has broad jurisdiction to investigate all Pentagon contracts, both in Iraq and elsewhere.


HIS PERFORMANCE AT DOD
When Joseph E. Schmitz took over as the Pentagon's inspector general in 2002, the largest watchdog organization in the federal government was under fire for failing to fully investigate a senior official, falsifying internal documents and mistreating whistle-blowers.... Schmitz slowed or blocked investigations of senior Bush administration officials



BLOCKED INVESTIGATION OF EDWARD "PETE" ALDRIDGE AT LOCKHEED
Another case in which Schmitz intervened came when the inspector general's office began examining the jobs received by Pentagon officials who left for the private sector, according to another U.S. official, who also declined to be identified because of the sensitivity of the issue. One of those on the list was Edward "Pete" Aldridge, the former Pentagon procurement chief who took a job with defense contractor Lockheed Martin. Schmitz would not sign a subpoena allowing investigators to examine employment documents, the official said.

Instead,

the official said that Schmitz created a new policy that made it more difficult to get information by subpoena by requiring additional bureaucratic steps. During his tenure, Schmitz also made it harder to initiate an investigation of a political appointee, requiring high-ranking approval
before investigators could proceed. A Lockheed Martin spokesman confirmed the company had received a request that the firm "voluntarily provide" information regarding Aldridge. It said it had "promptly and fully" responded to the request....


Also, see Howard Krongard, a mirror-image www.answers.com...

JOSEPH E. SCHMITZ RESIGNS ...
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WASHINGTON — The Pentagon's top investigator has resigned amid accusations that he stonewalled inquiries into senior Bush administration officials suspected of wrongdoing.


Defense Department Inspector General Joseph E. Schmitz told staffers this week that he intended to resign as of Sept. 9 to take a job with the parent company of Blackwater
USA, a defense contractor.

The resignation comes after Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) sent Schmitz several letters this summer informing him that he was the focus of a congressional inquiry into whether he had blocked two criminal investigations last year.

Grassley, chairman of the Finance Committee, accused Schmitz of fabricating an official Pentagon news release, planning an expensive junket to Germany and hiding information from Congress. Schmitz is the senior Pentagon official charged with investigating waste, fraud and abuse.


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ABOUT BLACKWATER & THE PRINCE GROUP

BLACKWATER maintains the largest private military training facility in the United States.... BLACKWATER's CEO and co-founder is Michigan-based Erik D. Prince, an ex-US Navy SEAL, an heir to an automobile parts corporate fortune, a former intern for President George H. W. Bush, and a contributor to such right wing Republicans as recently indicted Tom DeLay. Prince also has strong political links to Sen.

Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, Family Research Council President Tony Perkins, one-time GOP presidential candidate Gary Bauer, a political action committee called "Restoring the American Dream," (whose board of directors included Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour, Robert Bork, former Rep. Steve Largent, Domino's Pizza founder Thomas Monaghan.... BLACKWATER is far removed from oversight by government inspectors general, Freedom of Information Act requests, the Government Accountability Office (GAO), and snooping reporters.


Pentagon misplaces 15 billion dollars (Friday, May 23, 2008) www.washingtonpost.com...

(See … US: Pentagon's Top Watchdog Resigned Amid Claims of Stonewalling Inquiries www.corpwatch.org...

See May 2003: Pentagon mission 1 trillion dollars www.sfgate.com.../c/a/2003/05/18/MN251738.DTL&type=printable )

Schmitz will go to work for Prince Group, the Virginia-based parent company of BLACKWATER USA, as chief operating officer and general counsel. Schmitz formally recused himself in June from any cases involving BLACKWATER , a private security company with millions of dollars in contracts in Iraq.


About Blackwater www.crocodyl.org...

At least 90% of its revenue comes from government contracts, two-thirds of which are no-bid contracts.


Blackwater patrolling streets in New Orleans www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here’s background on him, from …The Schmitz Family - A Key Nazi Connection to 9/11 911review.org...


THE SCHMITZ family TREE
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JOSEPH EDWARD SCHMITZ is the son of the late JOHN G. SCHMITZ, former California State Senator, Member of the U.S. House of Representatives, and U.S. Presidential candidate (1972). John Schmitz was famous for his right-wing views and occasional racist and homophobic remarks. His public career was ended when it was revealed that he had an affair and fathered two illegitimate children.

John Schmitz's seven legitimate children include former George H.W. Bush White House counsel JOHN P. SCHMITZ, JEROME T. SCHMITZ, Theresa Manion, Elizabeth Crnkovich, Philip Schmitz (who tragically drowned as a baby in the family pool), child rapist Mary Kay Letourneau, and Joseph Edward Schmitz.



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SCHMITZ CLAN INTERMARRIED WITH THE BUSH FAMILY & MEXICAN NWO FAMILY
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Jeb married a Mexican woman. Columba Bush’s sister is married to JOHN P. SCHMITZ, a beneficiary of the fellowship programs subsumed under the Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft and the brother of Joseph Schmitz, currently the head of the BLACKWATER security outfit. JOHN P. SCHMITZ has close links to the elder George Bush, the 9/11 milieu...
We’re going to be investigating this a little more in the next series of posts after this on when we specifically look at Nazi/neo-Nazi players in the current sociopathic/psychopathic puppet-Bush milieu.

BIZARRE SEXUAL PERVERSIONS
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One of the strangest episodes in Schmitz’s saga concerns a second family he raised by his German mistress. A young boy conceived in that relationship appears to have been sexually mutilated. “But the man who saw conspiracies everywhere, who was an equal opportunity bigot, and who decried America’s moral decrepitude, had, himself, a skeleton in the closet. It came to light in a curious way. An Orange County child abuse case in 1982 concerned a thirteen-month-old infant who was discovered with hair so tightly wound around his penis that the organ had nearly been severed. The baby was placed in protective custody, and the court demanded that the father step forward. It turned out to be none other than John G. Schmitz, now again a state senator, paterfamilias of five children and, two others with his German mistress, once his student at Santa Ana. It marked the end of Schmitz’s political career (although he did attempt to run for Congress once more). The charges against the mother were eventually dropped and the infant restored to her care. But it was never explained what was going on with the hair-wound penis. One historian has suggested that it was a ‘mysterious sex—or probably anti-sex ritual . . . as if a chastity device.’ Schmitz, feisty as ever, remarked, ‘I ought to get the Right to Life man-of-the-year award for this.’”



IRAN-CONTRA
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John Schmitz was the father of the Bush I aide most involved in Iran-Contra, JOHN P. SCHMITZ, who refused to testify before the Walsh Commission ...

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JOHN P. SCHMITZ, George H.W. Bush’s former Deputy Counsel during the Elder’s Vice-Presidency and Presidency, will likely be a key player if Americans force Congress to become serious about its 9/11 probe. Some may remember Schmitz from the Iran/contra investigation, when the Office of the Independent Counsel (OIC) reported that each witness interviewed regarding document production complied except for Schmitz, who asserted that his documents were privileged work product.

Schmitz, fluent in German and a Partner in global-law firm Mayer, Brown & Platt, has clients that include BAYER AG (German maker of the antibiotic Cipro which fights Anthrax, about which Larry Klayman and Judicial Watch (JW) will have keen interest. Recently, JW filed suit seeking the Administration’s anthrax documents to ascertain why the White House starting taking heavy doses of Cipro the day of the attacks -- nearly a month before anthrax was even discovered on Capitol Hill, and while postal workers continued to sort mail in contaminated offices -- some dying in the process.

But John Schmitz’s MAYER-BROWNprofile also reveals that he represents ENRON, adding that “we were active in Germany [with ENRON] until the end....It [bankruptcy] surprised me as well as anyone else,” according to

Reuters (1-4-2002). Moreover, MAYER-BROWN also represents DEUTSCHE BANK on a regular basis regarding its electronic commerce activities; and curiously, Schmitz’s law firm maintains an office in Tashkent, Uzbekistan along with ENRON -- if only to make sure oil is well in the Caspian Sea basin.

Even many 9/11 victim families will even come to recognize Mayer-Brown; for conveniently, the firm also happens to represent United Airlines against 9/11 family lawyers Mary Schiavo and Donald Nolan. And given partner JOHN P. SCHMITZ’s close former relationships with the Bush family, Mayer-Brown’s many water coolers may become intriguing conduits when Miss Schiavo and Mr. Nolan begin their respective legal discovery initiatives regarding who will be subpoenaed or deposed and what evidence is or is not revealed.

Michael Feagley, a MAYER-BROWNlead attorney in more than 35 jury and bench trials, and evidentiary hearings, is a recognized expert in witness testimony and evidence. And like 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund Special Master Kenneth Feinberg, Feagley is an also an authority on alternative dispute resolution techniques - the art of bringing parties together to compromise in legal disputes. His law firm biography lists the art of avoidance of and preparation for potential future litigation as an additional key area of expertise.

Mayer-Brown’s website also lists a connection to President Bush’s family, in that one of its partners, JOHN P. SCHMITZ, personally represents and lobbies for both ENRON and BAYER AG, while also sitting on the Trustee Board of BAYER Foundation. Moreover, Schmitz fluent in German, was White House Deputy Counsel when George H. W. Bush was both President and Vice President, making the story’s legs that much more interesting.


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JOHN P. SCHMITZ PROFILE
Employment - Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP, Washington,
D.C., 1993 to date • Deputy Counsel to President
George Bush, The White House,Washington, D.C., 1989-1993 • Deputy Counsel to Vice President George Bush, Office of the Vice President, The White House, Washington, D.C., 1985-1989 • Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering, Washington, D.C., 1984-1985 • Robert Bosch Foundation Fellowship, Office of Bundestag Member Matthias Wissmann, Bonn, and Office of General Counsel, Robert Bosch, GmbH, Stuttgart, Germany Law Clerk to The Honorable Antonin Scalia, U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, Washington, D.C., 1983-1984 • Research Fellow, Environmental Quality Lab, California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA, 1982-1983 • Special Assistant to William Baxter, Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust, U.S. Department of Justice, Washington, D.C., 1981-1982 • Research Assistant to Professors John Ferejohn and Morris Fiorina, Pasadena, CA, and London, England, 1978-1980 • Legislative Assistant to Goodloe E. Byron, Member of Congress, Washington, D.C., 1977 • Legislative Aide to Charles W. Sandman, Jr., Member of Congress, Washington, D.C., 1973-1975.

Education Stanford Law School, J.D., 1981; Stanford Foundation for Law and Economic Policy, founding member; Stanford Law Review • California Institute of Technology, M.S., Economics, 1978; Completed all coursework and exams toward Ph.D • Georgetown University, B.A. magna cum laude, 1976; Phi Beta Kappa; Dobriansky Fellowship. Languages German (fluent)



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WILMER CUTLER & PICKERING
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[John P.] Schmitz was a beneficiary of the Robert Bosch Foundation Fellowship, a subsidiary program (along with the Alfa Fellowship) of the Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft. When working with the Bundestag, Schmitz worked with Mathias Wissman, the former treasurer of the CDU! Later, Wissman went to work for Wilmer Cutler & Pickering, a law firm that also employed Schmitz and that

represents key German government-linked corporations in their attempts to move into American markets.


JOHN P. SCHMITZ is a Washington lobbyist who reported $1.6 million in lobby income in 2002 from five corporate clients led by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Lockheed Martin and RxHub—an electronic prescription service formed by leading drug-benefits companies. Schmitz co-chairs the U.S. Chamber’s Federalism Initiative, which promotes legal limits on the damages that businesses must pay when they harm workers, consumers or communities.


NOTE: This is Robert Bosch Foundation
Sponsers include: The Bayer Corporation www.bayer.com... Lufthansa German Airlines www.lufthansa-financials.de... Festo Corp. www.festo.com...

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BUSH APPOINTS JOSEPH E. SCHMITZ AS IG AT THE PENTAGON UNDER RUMSFELD "President Bush nominated Joseph E. Schmitz to be the Inspector General"

CLERKED FOR JAMES L. BUCKLEY
He clerked with James L. Buckley [President of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, Inc. 1982-1985], Circuit Judge, United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit ...

PATTON BOOGS
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SCHMITZ & PATTON BOGGS
1987 to 2002, Mr. Schmitz' private-sector law practice focused on complex civil litigation, aviation regulatory matters, international trade, administrative law, and constitutional appellate litigation, most recently as a partner at PATTON BOGGS
LLP.

MAYER-BROWN
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JOHN P. SCHMITZ, MAYER-BROWN, ANTHRAX,
BEN VENISTE, ETC.
MAYER-BROWN also has clients that include BAYER AG (German maker of the antibiotic Cipro which fights Anthrax, about which Larry Klayman and Judicial Watch (JW) will have keen interest.

JW has filed suit seeking the Administration’s anthrax documents to ascertain why the White House starting taking heavy doses of Cipro on the day of the attacks -- nearly a month before anthrax was even discovered on Capitol Hill, and while postal workers continued to sort mail in contaminated offices -- some dying in the process.


John Schmitz’s MAYER-BROWN profile also reveals that he represented ENRON, adding that “we were active in Germany [with ENRON] until the end....It [bankruptcy] surprised me as well as anyone else,” according to Reuters (1-4-2002).



Moreover,

MAYER-BROWN also represents DEUTSCHE BANK on a regular basis regarding its electronic commerce activities; and curiously, Schmitz’s law firm maintains an office in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, along with ENRON -- if only to make sure oil is well in the Caspian Sea basin.

And DEUTSCHE BANK is knee-deep in pre-9/11 insider trading stock profits. Enough said.


Ben Veniste, for his part, was very cordial to us, even as we asked him about his recusing himself from participating in writing airline safety recommendations relative to his firm’s representation of United Airlines: “I have already addressed the conflict of interest issue.”

Real answers, however, about how serious Ben Veniste and other Commissioners are regarding their quest for 9/11 truth will come when it is learned which key administration players will testify and whether their subpoenas will be served “by consensus,” -- to which Senator John McCain had referred during his Thursday morning testimony -- or whether subpoenas will center along political party battle-lines. This, while also addressing issues of openness and public sunshine.

MAYER-BROWN
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ATTA
MAYER-BROWNis a powerhouse multinational firm, with offices in numerous Western European countries and the United States. Interestingly, its website lists such clients as ENRON Corporation, both of whom maintain offices in the Caspian Sea basin in Tashkent, Uzbekistan - near Afghanistan; German corporation BAYER AG - maker of cipro, the antibiotic used to treat anthrax; and German banking giant, DEUTSCHE BANK, for electronic commerce activities.

According to wide reports, two of the September 11 terrorist hijackers maintained bank accounts at DEUTSCHE BANK, including leader Mohammed ATTA.



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posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 06:53 PM
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(1) MOHAMMED ATTA … at THE TERRORIST MOTEL-- GOP & UNDERGROUND REICH & WTC/911 & MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD & 2012.

Mohammed Atta -- Zaccarias Moussaoui -- Mujahid Abdulquaadir Menepta -- Marwan al-Shehhi – Timothy McVeigh

THE TERRORIST MOTEL, by Jim Crogan
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“The Terrorist Motel” by Jim Crogan; L.A. Weekly; 7/26/-- 8/1/2002;

“What happened at the nondescript roadside motel outside Oklahoma City was just fleeting encounter during the twisted cross-country odyssey of the terrorists who would carry out the September 11 attacks. Mohammed Atta, alleged leader of the plot, and two companions wanted to rent a room, but couldn’t get the deal they wanted, so they left.”


According to Dave Emory, (in regards to ‘The Terrorist Motel’ article,

This same motel was apparently frequented by Mujahid Menepta, an associate of Moussaoui, who visited the motel in the time before the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.

This same motel was also reported to have been host to Timothy McVeigh
and alleged Middle Eastern and/or Iraqi nationals, with whom he may have been conspiring.


THE TERRORIST MOTEL, by Jim Crogan

“One reason for the FBI’s apparent lack of interest might be this motel’s alleged connection to Timothy McVeigh and a group of Iraqis who worked in Oklahoma City. According to the motel owner and other witnesses and investigators interviewed by the Weekly, McVeigh and several of these Iraqis were motel guests in the months preceding the 1995 bombing. Witnesses also claimed they saw several of the Iraqis moving barrels of material around on the bed of a truck. The motel owner said the material smelled of diesel fuel and he had to clean up a spill. Diesel fuel was a key component of the truck bomb that blew up the Federal Building.”



“After the attacks, said the motel owner, he recognized his visitors in photos from television reports. ‘I was really stunned,’ he said. Then he decided to call the FBI hot line. The motel owner said he didn’t hear right back from the FBI. In the interim, he also spoke to a former law-enforcement officer who was investigating reported sightings of Mujahid Abdulquaadir Menepta at the same motel during the mid-1990’s. Menepta, reportedly a friend of Moussaoui’s, was arrested 30 years ago in Colorado for aggravated robbery and served more than three years in prison.”



“After September 11, Menepta publicly defended Moussaoui, calling him a ‘scapegoat.’ The FBI arrested him as a material witness and subsequently charged Menepta with a federal gun violation. He pleaded guilty and in April 2002 was sentenced to 15 months in federal prison. He was never charged with any terrorism-related crime. But during the preliminary hearing on the gun charge, Alcohol, Tobacco and firearms Agent Jeffrey Whitney testified that a confidential source placed Menepta at a meeting of a radical Islamic group in St. Louis where he allegedly threatened to shoot any police officer who entered the mosque. Menepta’s attorney challenged the credibility of this report in court.”



“A former desk clerk at the motel—a different clerk from the one who purportedly dealt with Atta and Moussaoui—told the Weekly that he remembered Menepta because in 1994 and 1995—prior to the Oklahoma City attack—Menepta frequently visited the motel office. There, he bought coffee and talked for hours to this clerk.”

“The clerk and his wife, who both formerly worked at the motel, said they picked Menepta’s picture out of a photo lineup prepared by a law-enforcement officer who had interviewed the motel owner. This officer, who also spoke to the Weekly on condition of anonymity, said that after the motel owner told him about the Moussaoui sighting, he contacted a member of Oklahoma’s Joint Terrorism Task Force, which includes the FBI. The FBI finally acted on the tip.



The motel owner said that on December 19, 2001, he went to FBI offices in Oklahoma City for a formal interview, where he was debriefed by an FBI agent and by Oklahoma City Police Sergeant Jerry Flowers. ‘We talked for several hours, and I told them everything I knew.’ The motel owner said he would have taken a polygraph exam but was not asked to do so. The Weekly’s law-enforcement source corroborates the December 19 interview.


“The motel owner said he and his staff reported this information to the FBI in 1995.‘We did have an ATF agent come out and collect the originals of the room registrations for that period, but we never heard back from them. And I never could get the registrations returned.’
He added that his previous experience with the FBI made him reluctant to contact them about Moussaoui. ‘But I decided it was my duty to tell them what had happened. So I did.’”


(For links between Oklahoma City bombing and the milieu of 9/11, see FTR#’s 328, 330 www.spitfirelist.com... , 336 www.spitfirelist.com... , 354 www.spitfirelist.com... , 357 www.spitfirelist.com... , 386 www.spitfirelist.com... , 405 www.spitfirelist.com... , 443 www.spitfirelist.com... , 450 www.spitfirelist.com... )

(For Middle Eastern connections to Oklahoma City bombing, see FTR#’s 88, 92, 373 www.spitfirelist.com... , 386 www.spitfirelist.com... , 443 www.spitfirelist.com... )


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posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 08:41 PM
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(2) MOHAMMED ATTA … at THE TERRORIST MOTEL-- GOP & UNDERGROUND REICH & WTC/911 & MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD & 2012.

(I want to post this info because it just jumped in my face, then get right back to my Mohammed Atta postings.) Also see www.abovetopsecret.com...

War Crimes Investigator Says Al Qaeda Spawned From Nazi Third Reich
“Al Qaeda is the direct lineal descendant of the Arab Nazis of the Muslim Brotherhood, www.warriorsfortruth.com...

AND, Al Qaeda's Neo-Nazi Connections, by William Grim, 2/25/2004
forum.politik.de...
(about Wm. Grim, www.jewishpress.com... )

On the surface there would seem to be little to unite the Aryan racialists of the neo-Nazi movement with the terrorists of radical Islam. To the neo-Nazis, Muslims are almost all members of "inferior" races; and to the Islamic terrorists, the neo-Nazis are almost without exception either atheists or members of fringe quasi-Christian sects.

But the reality is that there has been close cooperation between Muslim extremists and Fascists ever since the founding of the Nazi movement in the 1920's. For all of their differences, Muslim extremists and Nazis have always been united by a common group of beliefs and goals: hatred of Judaism (and conventional Christianity), hatred of democracy, and a desire for the destruction of Israel and the United States.

A little background is in order. During World War II the rabidly anti-Semitic Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin Al-Husseini, pledged his unequivocal support to Adolf Hitler and the National Socialist movement. The Grand Mufti was put on the Nazi payroll in 1937 after he met with Adolf Eichmann in Palestine. In fact, when the Grand Mufti had to flee the Middle East in 1941 after the failure of the pro-Nazi coup in Iraq, he was welcomed to Berlin by Hitler and provided with high-power transmitters in order to broadcast pro-Nazi propaganda to the Middle East.

The Grand Mufti also organized an all- Muslim unit of the SS for Hitler and was instrumental in forming the pro-Nazi Muslim Hanschar brigades in Yugoslavia. After the war and his conviction for war crimes by the Nuremberg Tribunal, the Grand Mufti fled to Egypt where, as part of the ODESSA network of former SS operatives, he maintained close ties to former high-ranking Nazis who were now engaged in gun-running operations to Arab countries fighting the fledgling State of Israel.

One such ex-Nazi gunrunner was Major General Otto Ernst Remer (1912-1997), known as the "Godfather of the neo-Nazi movement." Remer had a major part in thwarting the Generals' Plot against Hitler in July 1944. Hitler rewarded Remer by putting him in charge of his protection detail. In the chaos of the immediate post-war period, Remer escaped de-Nazification and returned to Germany.

In 1949 Remer and his associates founded the Sozialistische Reichspartei in Lower Saxony, but the party was banned in 1952 as a neo-Nazi political organization. Remer then settled in Egypt where he began his close friendship with the Grand Mufti and also became security adviser to Gamal Abdel Nasser.

Remer, along with his associate Alois Bunning (who was Eichmann's assistant in the SS), operated his gunrunning company, the Orient Trading Company, out of Damascus for many years. In the 1980's, when the statute of limitations expired for the crimes he was alleged to have committed, Remer retired and returned to Germany where he became a close adviser to Michael Kuehnen, the most important neo-Nazi leader of the postwar period in Germany.

It should be pointed out that National Socialism had a profound impact on the political philosophies of many radical Islamic political organization, particularly the Muslim Brotherhood (founded in Egypt in 1928), Nasser's Young Egypt movement, the Social Nationalist Party of Syria founded by Anton Sa'ada, and the Ba'ath Party of Iraq. One of the main leaders of the 1941 pro-Nazi coup in Iraq was Khairallah Tulfah, the uncle and guardian of Saddam Hussein. When Saddam failed in his attempt to assassinate the Iraqi leader Abdel Karim Qassim in 1959, he fled to Egypt where he was given protection by Grand Mufti- protégé Nasser and ODESSA-connected former Nazis. The rest, as they say, is history.


Also see www.abovetopsecret.com...

Now I want to return to my Mohammed Atta research.

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posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 09:03 PM
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Connections between the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, the Oklahoma City bombing, and 9/11 & al Qaeda in the Islamo-fascist/neo-Nazi 'Triple Border Area' of South America

(Also see ‘The Serpent’s Diary’, FTR#443 www.spitfirelist.com... )

Andreas Strassmeir, & Timothy McVeigh, Lufthansa, and World Muslim Congress (based in Pakistan)

ANDREAS STRASSMEIR, ALLEGED MASTERMIND OF OKC BOMBING & ALLEGED BOSS OF TIMOTHY MCVEIGH
According to Dave Emory's interpretation of Wm. Grim's work:

Andreas Strassmeir, the alleged mastermind of the OKC bombing and Timothy McVeigh’s alleged superior in the operational aspects of the attack is alleged in a 5/10/1995 FBI memorandum to have sought the purchase of a Boeing 747 from Lufthansa.


ANDREAS CARL STRASSMEIR
Al Qaeda’s Neo-Nazi Connections” by William Grim; forum.politik.de...

“Extremists residing at Elohim City received military-style training from a number of sources. One of the trainers there was Andreas Carl Strassmeir of Germany, a neo-Nazi and the son of Guenter Strassmeir, a chief aide of disgraced former German chancellor Helmut Kohl. The elder Strassmeir is widely regarded as the architect of Kohl’s reunification plan that merged the former East Germany with the Federal Republic in 1991. And Guenter’s father was one of the original members of the Nazi Party in the early 1920’s.”


ANDREAS STRASSMEIR & TIMOTHY McVEIGH

“Andreas Strassmeir is important to this story because he not only became a close friend and confidant of Timothy McVeigh, but also because he is regarded by many investigators as John Doe #2, the unknown person assisting McVeigh and Terry Nichols at the scene of the Oklahoma City bombing who was seen by a number of eyewitnesses.”

STRASSMEIR TRIES TO BUY 747
“In addition to training various neo-Nazi and militia groups, Strassmeir was involved in a number of very curious activities.

According to an FBI report dated May 10, 1995, ‘Additional documents reveal that at one time Strassmeir was attempting to purchase a 747 aircraft from Lufthansa
; however, the reason for the purchase is not reflected in the documents.’

In 1995 it would not have been unreasonable for an FBI investigator to give Strassmeir’s aborted airliner purchase merely passing notice. In light of 9/11, however, it gives one pause and raises the real possibility that 9/11 type attacks were being planned as far back as 1995 by insiders in the neo-Nazi/Islamic terrorist network.


TERRORISM’S NEW GEOGRAPHY -- TRIPLE BORDER AREA OF SOUTH AMERICA
“Terrorism’s New Geography” by Sebastian Junger; Vanity Fair; December/2002

“And there were Americans at the camp as well. Risi learned about one of them and on January 12, 1996, he says, he took a polygraph test and made a statement to the Federal Court in Buenos Aires testifying to everything he knew about this American. The man—whose name also won’t be divulged—is an ex-Special Forces soldier who had been a communications expert in Vietnam and had seen combat there.

He returned home to join the Michigan Militia, then converted to Islam, worked in Jordan, and became associated with another American, who had been investigated by the D.E.A. for activities in Central America.


Now, according to Risi, the Vietnam vet, who speaks Spanish, is in Triple Border with two other American extremists, acting as an instructor at one of the terrorist training camps. He is also responsible for security operations and provided armed guards when top al-Qaeda and Hezbollah associates—in particular, Muganiyah—were in town.”


(For Islamist/neo-Nazi cooperation in the Triple Border area of Latin America, see FTR#457 www.spitfirelist.com...


“According to Risi,

the man had also been in the United States on September 11 and had provided logistical support to Atta before the attacks.
. . . According to Risi, Aryan Nations had people in Triple Border as early as 1985, and they were cooperating with Islamic extremists in the United States. (Stephen Jones, the chief defense lawyer for Timothy McVeigh, suspects that convicted Kuwaiti terrorist Ramzi Yousef supplied technical expertise in the 1995 Oklahoma City Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building bombing.”


WORLD MUSLIM CONGRESS BASED IN PAKISTAN
For World Muslim Congress (founded by the Grand Mufti),—a history that embodies the synthesis of Third Reich-related elements, neo-Nazis and Middle Eastern oil kingdom money, see FTR#’s 367 www.spitfirelist.com... , 369 www.spitfirelist.com... , 404 www.spitfirelist.com...



“Another favorite IHR speaker and collaborator was Issah Nakleh of the World Muslim Congress (WMC). Based in Pakistan,
the WMC was initially headed by the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, who, like his friend H. Keith Thompson, stood by the Third Reich until his death in 1974. A few years later, the WMC, then headed by Pakistani Dr. Inamullah Kahn, mailed Holocaust-denial literature to every member of the U.S. Congress and the British Parliament. The WMC’s official mouthpiece, Muslim World, carried the ads for The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and Henry Ford’s The International Jew.


Emory adds from, The Beast Reawakens; Martin A. Lee,

Dr. Khan’s congress also published Freemasonry, a book warning that Jews were using lodge members to extend secret control over religion and society—a paranoid theory that has long been popular among Liberty Lobby supporters and neo-Nazi groups around the world.

Acknowledging their political kinship, WMC secretary-general Khan sent a letter to the Spotlight praising its ‘superb in-depth analysis’ and stating that the paper deserved ‘the thanks of all right-minded people.’

Dr. Khan also served as an advisor to the Saudi Arabian royal family, which lavished funds on the WMC. In addition, the Saudi Arabian government retained the services of American neo-nazi William Grimstead as a Washington lobbyist.


Soon, the World Muslim Congress began working closely with U.S. intelligence and Pakistani military officials, who were covertly supporting the Afghan mujahideen in their fight against the Soviet-installed regime in Kabul. This effort was strongly endorsed by Dr. Khan, who served for many years as the Pakistani representative of the Nazi-infested World Anti-Communist League, which played an important role in the Reagan administration’s ‘secret war’ in the Golden Crescent.


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posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 04:37 AM
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(4) MOHAMMED ATTA … at THE TERRORIST MOTEL-- GOP & UNDERGROUND REICH & WTC/911 & MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD & 2012,

(For exclusive and only-existing videos where Atta's girlfriend is talking about Atta, go to www.abovetopsecret.com...)

IF MOHAMED ATTA IS NOT AN ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALIST – WHO IS HE?
Emory:

Another possible indication of Nazi/Islamist cooperation concerns Mohammed Atta’s German connections, which appear to have been numerous and significant.


“9/11: The German Connection” by Daniel Hopsicker www.MadCowMorningNews.com

“A year-long MadCowMorningNews investigation has uncovered evidence that at

least seven of Mohamed Atta’s closest associates in Florida during the year leading up to the 9/11 attack were not Arab, but German.
The names of the seven, all pilots, have not surfaced in any press accounts of Atta’s stay in the U.S., nor has their existence been mentioned or alluded to in official statements.

Traveling with Atta, or meeting him around the state, Atta’s German friends appeared to share a relationship with him of long-standing, according to eyewitnesses, dating back to his days in Hamburg. The meetings, in places like key West and Miami, were apparently very serious business; when they returned, said someone who was there, Atta and his German associates ‘always came back glum.’

Only one of the seven is still in the U.S.; five live in Germany or Switzerland. The seventh, with whom Atta reportedly traveled extensively, has a criminal record in Germany, and today lives in Saudi Arabia. The identities of the seven German nationals were pieced together from information gleaned in interviews with Atta’s one-time American girlfriend, corroborated by independent aviation sources in Venice and Naples, FL. ”


Emory: The article stresses the structural similarity of Atta’s German associates with the background of Andreas Strassmeir, alleged mastermind of the Oklahoma City bombing and associate of Timothy McVeigh.

“9/11: The German Connection” by Daniel Hopsicker www.MadCowMorningNews.com

“ . . . Strassmeir’s father was once a top aide to German Chancellor Helmut Kohl; Atta’s German friends are all children of the German elite. But before delving further into Atta’s German connections, there were two other related developments in Florida last week. In the first, the former owner of the terror flight school in Venice, FL., Rudi Dekkers, was arrested last week on a single count of felony fraud, and booked into the Collier County jail in Naples, FL.”



Both of the men running the flying schools in Florida that trained the hijackers were Dutch nationals.

Might this have some connection to the Thyssen-Bornemisza link to the Netherlands described in FTR#370 www.spitfirelist.com... ?


“As the MadCowMorningNews has been reporting, suspicious and often illegal activities were commonplace occurrences at Dekkers-owned flight schools at the same time the schools were training a veritable ‘Who’s Who’ of Hamburg cadre terrorists. Now the arrest of the controversial Dutch national comes amid indications from authorities that Federal agencies involved in the 9/11 investigation are taking a closer look at Dekker’s business activities in Florida during the past decade, fueling speculation he might become the first non-Arab charged in a wider 9/11 conspiracy than has so-far been revealed. . . .Posing for a new mug shot is the latest in a series of reversals suffered recently by the Venice ‘Magic Dutch Boy,’ so-called because he is

one of two Dutch nationals who owned flight schools at the Venice Airport which each—by apparent freak coincidence—ended up training terrorists to fly. . .”



“Then, too Dekker’s helicopter crashed recently, while he was en route to a showdown meeting with partner Wally Hilliard over control of Huffman Aviation. In another freak coincidence, owner of the second Dutch-owned flight school at the Venice Airport, Arne Kruithof, also suffered a near-fatal aviation mishap last summer when his plane fell from a hundred feet in the air onto the runway of the Venice Airport. It appears as if both would be well-advised to stay away from open windows.”


THE GERMAN ELEMENT ARRIVES IN FLORIDA WITH WOLFGANG IN 1996.

“The German element arrived in Florida with ‘Wolfgang’ in 1996. Prior to arriving in Naples he was associated with an organization called ‘The Flying Club of Munich.’

‘Wolfgang showed up from Munich in the mid-1990’s and immediately began operating a flight school illegally in ’96,’ stated an aviation source in Naples. ‘He’s half Swiss, half German.’
Wolfgang was instrumental in bringing another of Atta’s German associates to Florida, a pilot named ‘Stephan,’ who we were to learn has done jail time in Germany, was on parole there when he came to the U.S., and recently spent a year in Gundogdu, Turkey.”



“While regular German flight students struggle to obtain the necessary visas, Wolfgang and Stephan apparently had inside connections which smoothed their progress. ‘Sometimes it makes me mad that a criminal gets preference,’ stated one German national flight instructor in Naples with obvious bitterness. ‘Wolfgang signed off on Stephan’s books, and Stephan also got in on a fraudulent business investor’s visa.’ ‘Wolfgang was in his thirties,’ says Amanda Keller, who lived with Atta during March and April of 2001. ‘He and Wolfgang were very tight, they went everywhere together. When he came into the picture they were together all the time.’”

ATTA WAS ALWAYS WITH WOLFGANG
“Strangely, Keller also states that Atta always spoke German with Wolfgang, a statement contradicted by the testimony of Rudi Dekkers, who told a Congressional Committee that when he addressed him in German, Atta had merely looked at him strangely . . . Newsweek says its sources say the unnamed country is Saudi Arabia. That may prove to be at least partly correct; still, there are few, if any, Saudis named ‘Wolfgang.’ Newsweek should keep digging.”



[edit on 5-6-2008 by counterterrorist]

[edit on 5-6-2008 by counterterrorist]



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