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Roswell: Final Declassification

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posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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A good site on the "Roswell Incident"

home.comcast.net...




posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by Turiddu
I'm inclined to believe a Project Mogul balloon was what crashed on that day. I find the "extraterrestrial" story to be too riddled with lies and distortions. Some of the "key witnesses" are not very credible IMO.



Originally posted by ObvTruth
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But when the Army announces "Flying Saucer crashed" you are inclined to think its a real Flying Saucer.


I hate to admit it but it seems there may have been indeed nothing ET and this was some military experiment gadget or whatever machine that they wanted to collect asap. And considering it was the beginning of the Cold War, it was impertive that nothing was revealed. Then the story of UFO may have been just to cover their experiment.

This brings big disappointment because if a UFO story was made just for cover up of military tests, the same may be the case with other UFO sightnings. And considering there is no progress in finding anything better than unclear stories, I'm starting to wonder is there anything or is all this one big lie, that I wouldn't justify in ANY way as they could simply call it balloons if they wanted cover up.



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 08:08 AM
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Hi Imtor . you sound quite sensible and appear open to new information so i will tell you what happend.

Mac Brazel found the debris on his ranch he spoke to a few locals and they said " hey , you might have found the remains of one of those flying discs poeple claim to be seeing" People were reporting "flying discs" you can check newspaper articles from the time. The improtant thing to remember is that nobody knew what these "flying discs" were or what they were made of, sure some poeple would claim et craft but the military who took reports seriously were more concerned the "flying discs" were russian spy devices as they are in charge of the countries defense and the cold war was already underway.

Mac Brazel had seen weather balloons before and knew it wasnt a weather balloon ( see his interview with the roswell newspaper). The mogul ballons were much larger and made of diffirent material they were also not labelled in any way such as "US Army" or anything so there was no clues to the debris origin. Brazel phoned the army and said " i might have one of those "flying discs" on my ranch". The army sent a couple of people to collect it and they couldnt identify it , When on the scene Brazel discussed the debris with the army people and they specualted it could be a glider of some sort. They actually tried to recreate a glider type shape out of the debris.

The army collected the debris and did a press release saying they had recovered a "flying disc" they never said it was ET in origin. When the debris was later identified as a mogul balloon they made up the weather balloon story as a cover for project mogul.

The thing that tricks alot of roswell believers is the fact the army used the phrase "flying disc". Today in popular culture that only means 1 thing --flying saucer piloted by aliens. In 1947 people used the term "flying disc" as a generic description of anything that had fallen out of the sky they couldnt identify. There are newspaper reports of people finding RADAR targets from other balloon missions and they would phone the police saying they found a "flying disc". there are several incident like these before & after 1947. Infact it got so bad the armys policy was changed and they were required to label all their equipment as "US army" to help people identify where it came from.

The FBI telex sent a few days after confirms the debris was balloon material & radar target becuase of the description they said.



THE DISC IS HEXAGONAL IN SHAPE AND WAS SUSPENDED FROM A BALLON [sic] BY CABLE, WHICH BALLON [sic] WAS APPROXIMATELY TWENTY FEET IN DIAMETER. MAJOR CURTAN FURTHER ADVISED THAT THE OBJECT FOUND RESEMBLES A HIGH ALTITUDE WEATHER BALLOON WITH A RADAR REFLECTOR, BUT THAT TELEPHONIC CONVERSATION BETWEEN THEIR OFFICE AND WRIGHT FIELD HAD NOT [unintelligible] BORNE OUT THIS BELIEF."


Pro UFO advocates dismiss roswell as a myth these days except a few who usually have a vested interest in it being ET.



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 09:21 AM
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Still, is this the case with all UFOs? in that history documentary even the radiation was explained as normal from some of these crafts, I dont remember the reasons they gave. There is no real evidence of ETs, only pictures that could've been faked and lots of stories for making money and getting fame. If that's the case I have no words about how worthless SOME OF US humans are. And I would go for the planet destruction, to make space for better beings, if all the cases are people who wanted to make money and become famous.

BUT it could be as well a DOUBLE COVER-UP - The ballon is a cover for the Radar or whatever military object so that when declassified, the Radar thing appeas. What if this military stuff is also a coverup for what really happened? Or if this was indeed just military object crashing, then does this belittle in any way the more evident UFO cases?



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 10:10 AM
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imo there's no good evidence we have been visited by et in spaceships and i've looked into it quite a lot. I went from thinking ET was possible or even likely to being an outright skeptic after i did my own research.

if your looking into this subject take each case individually and judge it on its own merits.

edit on 4-7-2011 by yeti101 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 10:13 AM
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My problem with Roswell is over the years, many alleged witnesses keep changing their stories, adding details with each interview ( or new book).


You mean sort of like the military has been doing? So when witnesses change their story, it's false. When the military changes the story, it's ok?

There was around 110 witnesses to events that occurred. There were a ton of flights after this event from and to airbases that handled top secret aviation testing. There were many oddities surrounding stories and actions of the military after this simple "balloon" crashed (such as stations being threatened by the FCC for having their license to broadcast pulled, if they played certain interviews). This supposed small military experiment filled three trucks, and was scattered over a large area. The military itself claimed it had a saucer! They only changed their story the following day.

If this really had just been a top secret balloon test, this would have been quickly forgotten. There were too many people involved, too much serious involvement by the military, and too many changes of the story by the military. If you want to "lean towards fake," that's fine. But perhaps you should more fully research it, before just dismissing it. It's a massively important case, more many reasons (including the fact that this crash occurred near the time and spot where our first nuclear test as conducted).



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