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Court to Consider Death Penalty For Child Rape

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posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 05:37 PM
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Court to Consider Death Penalty For Child Rape


www.rawstory.com

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court this week hears arguments about whether the death penalty can be imposed for child rape, taking up for the first time in more than 30 years whether a crime other than murder can be punished by execution.

The nation's highest court has set arguments on Wednesday on whether the death penalty for the crime of raping a child represents unconstitutionally cruel and unusual punishment.

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posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 05:37 PM
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Well, I consider myself to be a peaceful man, sort of a live and let live attitude...But this IMO, is the worst of the worst in society--Child Rapists...Now this will be an explosive issue: Do we sentence them to death, or let them rot for the rest of their slimey existence in a prison cell? It will be interesting to see which direction this ruling goes...


It will be the second major death penalty case heard this year. In January, the justices considered the current lethal three-drug cocktail used in most U.S. executions.

A ruling is expected by late June on the challenge by two Kentucky death row inmates who argued the lethal injection method violated the constitutional ban on cruel and unusual punishment by inflicting needless pain and suffering.




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posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 05:48 PM
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About time imo. These animals are stealing their victims lives the same as murdering them, only they have to live with the memories. Assuming of course that they don't kill themselves because they can't live with it.



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 05:53 PM
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I'm against the death penalty even when cases like this make it hard to take that position.
Death is not punishment. Rapists certainly need to be punished.



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 06:00 PM
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Does child rape really warrant the death penalty? Murderers haven't stopped killing people despite the use of the death penalty. Is this really going to deter people from raping children?

While I do not defend people who do such despicable acts, they are still people. Who are we to sentence another to death? We are not god.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind, remember. Having them be raped over and over again may be what it takes to drill it into their brains, but that may also cause more harm than good.

Killing people is not going to solve any problems.



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 06:00 PM
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I have no problem with the death penalty, it doesn't get used enough IMO.

Child rapists have got to be the worst of the worst offenders out there...they can't be cured, only stopped. If I could personally volunteer to administer the lethal injection, I would.

It will be very interesting to see how the Supreme Court decides on this.

Thanks for posting this DimensionalDetective



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 12:50 AM
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good...there is no''well Im sorry, please forgive me'' we don't need these people corrupting children in the most heinous of ways. Hopefully another investigation will go into the Franklin coverups and we can go ahead and arrest, try, and execute these criminals.
We torture freedom fighters...and ignore the geneva convention...commit war crimes..and yet we have some kind of softspot in the law for these offenders?

I believe that if there is substantial evidence and if the offender is convicted, that offender should not be allowed to reenter society and not be allowed to be incarcerated at the expense of the taxpayers. As much as I would like to see prison justice exacted on these victimizers, I say off with their heads.



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 12:54 AM
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Well, it would certainly stop repeat offenders. Child rapists should never be allowed back into society. Weather that means life behind bars or the death penalty, I don't really care. It would be less of a draw on society / tax payers if they were swiftly executed though.



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by Umbrax
I'm against the death penalty even when cases like this make it hard to take that position.
Death is not punishment. Rapists certainly need to be punished.



But what do you feel is JUST punishment?

Letting them sit in an air condtioned cell w/ access to TV, pornography, vistors, computers, free college education, 3 meals a day, mail/packages etc etc? Because right now that is the alternative to the death penalty.

Is that really just punishment?



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by biggie smalls
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
 


Does child rape really warrant the death penalty? Murderers haven't stopped killing people despite the use of the death penalty. Is this really going to deter people from raping children?

While I do not defend people who do such despicable acts, they are still people. Who are we to sentence another to death? We are not god.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind, remember. Having them be raped over and over again may be what it takes to drill it into their brains, but that may also cause more harm than good.

Killing people is not going to solve any problems.


Is there ANY punishment that deters 100% of the time? NO!
Does it deter some? YES IT DOES. Therefore, it is a just punishment. Keeping disgusting people alive (murderers and rapists) is not going to solve any problems either.

And if you let a murderer or rapists serve life in prison....the chance of them murdering and raping again is VERY LIKELY. Why should they be allowed to have that opportunity ever again?

People like that have lost all rights and all respect for their own lives. They make a choice - they know the consequences. Therefore, they are choosing their fate.


[edit on 14-4-2008 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 01:08 AM
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The truth is that it actually costs taxpayers more dollars to execute a prisoner than it does to feed and house them for life. Not to mention that someone else gets a job because that prisoner is there.

In this particular case, I'm sure everyone will jump on the bandwagon against these scum, but this is wrong to even be considered. This measure would be more barbaric than an eye for an eye. It is a terrible and despicable crime, but it is not murder. It will open the floodgates to making all sorts of crimes a capital offense. And I'm sure that's what they have in mind here. The next thing will be execution for killing a police dog. Then it will be execution for dissent. Then execution for trying to kill someone. Then execution for major drug crimes. And on down the ladder.

Also consider this. If a rapist knows they are going to be executed if they get caught, what hope would there be that he might let your little girl leave alive?

[edit on 4/14/0808 by jackinthebox]



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 01:18 AM
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Also consider this. If a rapist knows they are going to be executed if they get caught, what hope would there be that he might let your little girl leave alive?


I was actually almost thinking that the death penalty for child rapists was a good idea, until this. What an extremely eye opening point of view. If we are to give them the same punishment as a murderer, what is going to stop them from bridging that gap? They are already going to be put to death for the rape, so now where is the deterrent for murder? Atleast then he has less of a chance of being identified.

Definitely a star for you! Great point.

[edit on 14-4-2008 by deadline527]



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by jackinthebox
The truth is that it actually costs taxpayers more dollars to execute a prisoner than it does to feed and house them for life. Not to mention that someone else gets a job because that prisoner is there.



This is not necessarily true.



THE COST OF LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE VS THE DEATH PENALTY

Many opponents present, as fact, that the cost of the death penalty is so expensive (at least $2 million per case?), that we must choose life without parole ("LWOP") at a cost of $1 million for 50 years. Predictably, these pronouncements may be entirely false. JFA estimates that LWOP cases will cost $1.2 million - $3.6 million more than equivalent death penalty cases.

MORE INFO HERE: www.prodeathpenalty.com...



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 01:21 AM
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Well, I'll just leave it as "cost is debateable" then. Probably depending on various factors that would be difficult to quantify. But clearly, there is no serious cost-effectiveness issue overall.

[edit on 4/14/0808 by jackinthebox]



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by jackinthebox
The truth is that it actually costs taxpayers more dollars to execute a prisoner than it does to feed and house them for life. Not to mention that someone else gets a job because that prisoner is there.

In this particular case, I'm sure everyone will jump on the bandwagon against these scum, but this is wrong to even be considered. This measure would be more barbaric than an eye for an eye. It is a terrible and despicable crime, but it is not murder. It will open the floodgates to making all sorts of crimes a capital offense. And I'm sure that's what they have in mind here. The next thing will be execution for killing a police dog. Then it will be execution for dissent. Then execution for trying to kill someone. Then execution for major drug crimes. And on down the ladder.

Also consider this. If a rapist knows they are going to be executed if they get caught, what hope would there be that he might let your little girl leave alive?

[edit on 4/14/0808 by jackinthebox]


I was thinking along those same lines. Where would it end? Seems a bit extreme imo.



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by deadline527


Also consider this. If a rapist knows they are going to be executed if they get caught, what hope would there be that he might let your little girl leave alive?


I was actually almost thinking that the death penalty for child rapists was a good idea, until this. What an extremely eye opening point of view. If we are to give them the same punishment as a murderer, what is going to stop them from bridging that gap? They are already going to be put to death for the rape, so now where is the deterrent for murder? Atleast then he has less of a chance of being identified.

Definitely a star for you! Great point.

[edit on 14-4-2008 by deadline527]


If the death penalty is not considered a deterrnt in preventing someone from killing/raping. Then it certainly isnt going to be an incentive in someone choosing to finish off the victim by killing them.



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 01:25 AM
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Star.

While it is true that some cases cost more, it isn't always the case. Also, I don't think that you should assume that a child rapist will automatically turn into a child murderer simply because the punishment is the same. While both crimes are dispicable, they are not the same. It takes two different types of sick to do it. Usually if the child rapist has it in them to also be a child killer, they would probably kill the child regardless of the penalty. They still don't want to get caught.

For the people who oppose the proposed law, do you think the current system is fine or do you have something else in mind?



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 01:27 AM
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I am not against the death penalty because it is inhumane.

Rather, I am against it because knuckle dragging oxygen thieves like child rapists should be made to suffer for the rest of their natural lives.

To kill them releases them from their guilt. The they need to live with their guilt. The judicial system owes the victims and their families, at least that much.

They should be castrated without anaesthetic, blinded so they may never look upon an innocent child's face again. They should be made to live in their own fecal matter and denied the right to clean linen, clothes and decent food. They are the filthiest vermin on the planet.


res



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 01:39 AM
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I am against the death penalty in all cases for the forseeable future. We have seen enough people get off death row after they were proved innocent. No, that does not mean the system works it just means that some people didn't pay the ultimate price but they still got unjustly punished for a crime they did not commit. Until our justice system is perfect we should stop the death penalty from occuring.

ONE innocent human being executed is ONE too many.

[edit on 14-4-2008 by stikkinikki]



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 01:40 AM
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In the case of child rape or any sort of molestation of a child.

Im Pro-Cruel and Unusual Punishment.

I say the crueler the better. Unusuals ok too.

Let the parents of the child inflict their own punishment on the offending scumbag.

CT



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