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posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 12:23 AM
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...well these girls are regulars at my Aunts bar, def not lezbians!
...and it was not just me disgusted about it, the whole bar was!
They were doing more than kissing, and were actually cut off from drinking!

I am not talking about all overweight women, just the one's that popped up in my head from reading this!
I guess I could have rephrased it!




posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by TKainZero
Do you know how many times this weekend i had to hear... " I am a vegatarian/Vegan... but i only eat one kind of Meat...'', and what would that be... *as my member is Grabed*"sausage"...




I don't know if I even believe that story. What girl would ever say such a corny line?

Is this, like, more in your fantasy or something?



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 01:19 AM
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I've never once encouraged a woman, especially one in whom I was interested, to make out with anyone else, male or female. It's always seemed odd to me that other guys appear really into it, at least the girl-on-girl aspect. I do not find bisexuality itself revolting, but I do find hypersexuality to be a turn off. I don't want to be with a woman who feels that she must constantly be grinding against anyone who isn't me
. It's just not a turn on.

I'm interested in the inverse of this thread as well. Women: how would you feel if your guy was, say, touching tongues with some random dude in a bar? What if he was grinding up against some random dude? Would that affect your perception of him? Several of the women I know who don't have a problem making out with other girls have told me before that it would definitely alter their opinion of a guy if they saw him making out with some other guy. Seems like an odd double standard to me and I'm interested in seeing how widespread it is. I know a smaller amount of women who consider it a turn on but they are definitely in the minority of women whom I've asked this question.

Don't let my question derail this thread though. Please focus your replies on the OP, but feel free to additionally address my post.

/tn.


[edit on 14-4-2008 by teleonaut]



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by Sublime620

Originally posted by TKainZero
Do you know how many times this weekend i had to hear... " I am a vegatarian/Vegan... but i only eat one kind of Meat...'', and what would that be... *as my member is Grabed*"sausage"...




I don't know if I even believe that story. What girl would ever say such a corny line?

Is this, like, more in your fantasy or something?


I was not the only one that had it done to them...

That is madness... her friend pulled her away the second time she did it.

Why a woman whould say a line like that, i have no idea, i was not expecting it, it did shock me... it was kinda strange...


Thanks for brining that up telelonote...

Do girls think that is a good thing?
Are they hoping that guys will emulate thier actions and do what they are doing?

Also, keep in mind, i live in NorCal, near San Fran... the place i live in does not represenet all of the US, but it does indeed reflect what MAY come to the rest of the US...



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 07:48 PM
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Pffft speak for yourself. Women can make out with other women anytime they want!



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by Sublime620

Do you know how many times this weekend i had to hear... " I am a vegatarian/Vegan... but i only eat one kind of Meat...'', and what would that be... *as my member is Grabed*"sausage"...


IF this story is true, why the heck would you complain about that?!?!?

I could see you being offended if she was some nasty chick, but not if she's a hottie.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 03:21 AM
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lol.

If some strange girl makes a move toward this sausage, she's gonna get put on her ass. It could be the head cheerleader for the Dallas Cowboys, doesn't matter. Just because I'm a male doesn't mean I'm required to be easy access.






posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by Givenmay
reply to post by AcesInTheHole
 

What really made me sick is when I had seen two really overweight girls that did'nt know how to dance do this sort of thing!
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lmao..yeah seeing that would be f'n nasty....



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by thehumbleone

Originally posted by Sublime620

Do you know how many times this weekend i had to hear... " I am a vegatarian/Vegan... but i only eat one kind of Meat...'', and what would that be... *as my member is Grabed*"sausage"...


IF this story is true, why the heck would you complain about that?!?!?

I could see you being offended if she was some nasty chick, but not if she's a hottie.


exactly. are some ppl this big of prudes?



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 10:06 AM
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I came to this conclusion a long time ago...

First and foremost...women (the female) is the most beatiful thing in the world.

Seriously...

Screw sunsets, moutain scenes, beaches, cars, whatever your passion may be. Females are the definition of beauty.

The curves, the skin, the hair, the eyes. Human females when juxtaposed to their male counterparts are BY FAR much more beautiful than a man.

Now, I am a male and a straight male to boot...and I am trying to look at this as non-bias as possible.

Thats why I think so many girls like girls. Girls are soft, clean, and delicate. They are not rough to the touch or hard on the eyes.

Thats my opinion which of course is mine and mine alone.

Maybe the people that hold total power just like girl on girl action and has trained the general public to accept that.



But next time you watch a victoria secret show...try not to look at it sexually and really admire the beauty of the human female.



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 12:21 PM
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I wonder at times if there is actually much thinking going on out here.

I dont deny that I find women by leaps and bounds more beautiful and appealing than men.

It is just that I dont find sex and sexuality in the manner it is pandered and promoted...whored out is a more appropriate term for it today, to be appealing to me. I am not saying here that people not have sex or sexuality..I am saying that there is something very wrong about the direction in which this nation is traveling.

When I observe the media....and the manner in which it panders sexuality ...I dont have any misgivings about what is going on. The public educational system too is going down this road in reflecting the trends of the media/politicians. And politics finances public education.

See this post in reply to Madnessinmysoul.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I dont know if many of you understand certain facets of female sexuality and the manner in which it is merchandized in an affluent social structure such as ours.

Walk into any department store and look at the displays and floor space and try to analyze how much space is dedicated to merchandize directed to the female or some facet of female socialization structure. You will find the ratio about 7 to 1 female.

This means that economically ..and socially females run or control the direction the economy travels ..not the male.

Females respond to one facet almost immediately...and in a different manner than do males...sexuality.

For females ..sexuality covers a whole gammut of products and merchandizing than it does to the male. This sexual appeal covers the method in which something is displayed..to colours, the line or style,to many other subtilties for which the average male is oblivious. The females as a whole do not miss out on it ... or not see it..they most certainly do.

Sex used in selling to males is in only a very narrow avenue..and not as wide a selection of products sold to males as a result of this narrow mindedness....tunnelvision. Merchandizers know that they cannot survive econimically off the stuff that males purchase..they must sell the females and eventually the females by selling also the children.
In order to sell males in such volumes as females..the males must be femminized.

Do you people not think that the females and merchandizers out here ..many of them have not figured out that they can default the whole system by sexuality??? Think about it. Someone in the merchandizing buisness is doing just that very thing.

This means that if they must sell the souls of a whole generation..to make moneys and political power..they will do just that.

Monkey see...monkey do!!!

As I stated in the post to Madnessinmysoul...do you see the next generation of people in this country conducting themselves more like diciplined individuals or like wildlife?? Can this be accidental ..merely coincidence..or is it deliberately planned and cultivated....by many out here?? To turn the next generation into more malliable, controllable, predicatable, consumers and voters..by using and misusing sexuality to sell the souls of a people. Even if it means turning people into base wildlife to get these predictable results.

The key to seeing this..is knowing that women percieve and believe in sex and sexuality in a much more powerful and subtile manner than do men..by far. The average male is light years behind the female in this arena.

I can gaurantee you that the advertisers, merchandizers, politicians, and educators have done thier homework in this arena. None of them are going to clue you people in ...they just want you to react to a stimulus like wild animals..and not think about the real nature of a thing.

Years and generations ago..an educated person was considered a person under dicipline..persons of letters so to speak. One would often ask in conversations..."In what dicipline are you educated." You dont often hear such now days.

In what are we educated today?? Sexuality?? Look around you folks...think about it!!

Then ask yourself why we see and are bombarded by the drivel to which we are ..and so often today.

Thanks,
Orangetom



posted on Apr, 22 2008 @ 07:18 PM
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I think I understand what you are saying, however I do not think women would be so drawn to sex and sexuality merchandizing if men weren't so respondant to women who buy into these roles. It takes two to tango my friend.



posted on Apr, 23 2008 @ 12:08 AM
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Originally posted by snowflake_obsidian
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I think I understand what you are saying, however I do not think women would be so drawn to sex and sexuality merchandizing if men weren't so respondant to women who buy into these roles. It takes two to tango my friend.


Hello Snowflake,

Thank you for your response. Ordinarily ..most men would probably agree with you here. I must respectfully decline my agreement.

I dont recall the womans name who posted such and I agreed with her back then. Duzey I think. Perhapsed I am mistaken here..

If I recall the statement ...it was to the effect of .."Who says that women are dressing to impress the men??"

As I have posted several times. When I was escorting the woman I was seeing at the time to her company Xmas party I was fortuitious in
being able to observe the women out in the lobby...inspecting the other women entering the ball room. They were not inspecting the men..but the other women...the "competition." I can assure you Snowflake the looks were quite feral and of wildlife ...passing judgement. I got to watch this from the best seat in the house.....unfiltered...raw!!! Explicit!! It was quite feral..the looks in some of these womens eyes as they inspected the competition...and passed judgement.

Snowflake..,this was a very rare educational opportunity for me. Hence I remember it so. It stands out in my mind. Im telling you Snowflake...it was the best seat in the house..the best show. A video of this type of behavior would make a great study in psychological phenomonon.

Now are all women like this..most certainly not. But this was so stark, raw and unfiltered...all the women out in the lobby were doing it.
I reckon Snowflake..until then I assumed that women were much more subtle and polished than this ....behavior I was witnessing. Not so for many of them...no matter what their educational levels.

Thanks,
Orangetom

[edit on 23-4-2008 by orangetom1999]



posted on Apr, 23 2008 @ 01:22 AM
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Bachelor is on point

And orangetom, you brought up excellent points also. And TKain, being the OP and the man who initiated the discussion, big props to you for doing so and being concerned about this. I often wonder why more people aren't.

It is refreshing to hear from men who aren't so simply amused by such behavior.

I personally put it down to low/no self esteem. These women are delusional. Simple. Some girls think that by doing dirty, perverse and taboo things boys will like them more.


What kind of woman who has any self respect would make a spectacle of herself for the sake of male attention ? And what kind of attention at that ?

I've seen it all my life, and rather than be one of those girls, I hung out with the guys and saw and heard it all. And it was enough for me to hold onto my own innocence for a lot longer than any of the girls in my neighborhood... and it earned me the respect I deserved, I demanded that I get because I give it to myself.

If giving a man an erection is your primary goal, cool, but don't cry when he doesn't call you or when the talk about you starts and all his mates want that, and only that, from you too.

If this sort of behavior is what a female feels she should resort to to capture a man's interest then one has to wonder what she really has to offer any man - besides her body and wild ways ... unless she likes being in that category of skank ? Then hey, to each his/her own.

I just feel really sad for the female species from here on out, with what has, and continues to become acceptable in this day n age :shk:


[edit on 23-4-2008 by ImJaded]



posted on Apr, 23 2008 @ 09:20 AM
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all i got to say is that men actually dont have any respect for women who act like that and guys generally like women who show respect for themselves. sure we might show praise for this kind of behavior but no one wants to end up with someone like that. and the ridicule from guys is massive and she will just end up being a joke instead and labeled as easy or whatever. And yes i agree that women dress up to impress other women really not so much for guys which is odd, women psychologically see themselves in the social context and act according to her social group or environment. if her friends are pretty she'll dress up as pretty. and some girls only have friends who are uglier than them so they can stand out. its a very weird culture and is best seen at parties, where they divide and conquer.



posted on Apr, 23 2008 @ 04:28 PM
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Yes it is true that women are out there judging other women on how they are dressing and competing with other women on how they dress and act but I still believe that the main underlying reason for this behaviour is a sad attempt to get attention from men. They are judging other women and competing with them for the attention of men. You can't tell me that there aren't a good percentage of men who do give attention to this kind of behaviour or the guy who produces the "Girls Gone Wild" tapes would have never made a fortune.

Also there are women out there who just do that stuff to have fun and really aren't doing it for the men but I really feel that those kind are few and far between.



posted on Apr, 23 2008 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by DuneKnight
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all i got to say is that men actually dont have any respect for women who act like that



the truth.

there's a difference betwen women and whores.



posted on Apr, 24 2008 @ 12:50 AM
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You know these talk shows on the BOOB tube in the afternoon...Jerry or Maury or Oprah..et al.

What kind of program would there be if the sex and sexuality was removed from the programming during these ?

My perception is you would have nothing or very little. Most viewers would change channels.

To me and my way of thinking ..these programs are nothing more than another version of Girls Gone Wild. It does not initially look as such on the surface...but when you look at them from the standpoint of wildlife...they most certainly are ..Girls Gone Wild.

As I stated ..remove the sex and sexuality ..what do you have left?

Orangetom

Post script...sorry about the triple post. first time I ve been able to do that one. For some reason the boards do that at times.

[edit on 24-4-2008 by orangetom1999]



posted on Apr, 24 2008 @ 12:50 AM
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posted on Apr, 24 2008 @ 12:50 AM
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[edit on 24-4-2008 by orangetom1999]





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