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reply posted on 17-4-2008 @ 09:54 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by defcon5



Let's see.....and think....

Plants live on the surface of the earth, and therefore can be very effective at spreading their spores....heck, it's their form of sex, but t can affect humans as well, since we breathe....well, until you die...and the lower-level winds are so gentle....COMPARED to upper-level winds, especially in the mid latitudes (Northern and Southern) where it is common to see steady 50Knots, I've see nearly 200Knots...this means, that 6 to 8 miles above you, these contrails are merely going to 'drift' in the airmass there, if it's a stable airmass, or will seem to 'disperse' as the varying wind shears casue them to become more diffuse....but the point is -- they stay up there, just like cirrus and alto-cumulus and (lower altitudes) cumulus and nimbus....Anyone here ever seen a cloud drop out of the sky, and fall on you? (besides in a cartoon)....

Ever seen how cropdusters 'spray'? If you are aiming at something, the best way to be sure of hitting your target is to be as close as possible.

So, seems defcon certainly has it correct...I can especially understand his point about diminished immune capacity in some people, and natural 'allergies' that manifest in ways never seen before the last few decades.

Anyone live in Phoenix? Tucson? I used to live in AZ, and golly there were a lot of people who moved there because of their allergies....then, of course, others moved in and brought plants that weren't indegenous....and suddenly, allergies! How surprising, eh?

WW


reply posted on 17-4-2008 @ 11:42 PM by defcon5
reply to post by tgambill



I would like to know your aviation background to make such a statement that you know better then I do as to what I am looking at in the sky?
I know exactly what I was looking at, two contrails made by aircraft heading down to Miami. If I really wanted to spend the time, and make the call, I could even find out the flight numbers. However it is not worth the effort as I am at work and have other things to accomplish.


reply posted on 17-4-2008 @ 11:53 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by defcon5



Hey, guys and gals!

Ever heard of 'FlightAware' [dot] com?

Real-time airline, and General Aviation (everyone with an IFR Flight Plan) tracking. You have to know the Flight Number (airline) or N number (GA).

Since you already know where you live, just become familiar with the airlines' schedules and city pairs that are likely to pass overhead, look up the Flight Numbers, and have fun watching American or Continental pass over or near your house.


reply posted on 18-4-2008 @ 12:20 AM by defcon5
reply to post by WEOPPOSEDECEPTION



No the contrails were to the east of the moon.
So I did not see what you’re referring to, sorry.


[edit on 4/18/2008 by defcon5]


reply posted on 18-4-2008 @ 12:21 AM by weedwhacker
reply to post by weedwhacker



Replying to myself...

Just looked up, for instance, Continental Flight 321. Cleveland/Miami, departs Friday morning at 0759. so not in the air yet. But, you can see the Flight Plan --- "DJB-HERAK-APE-J83-SPA-J85-TAY-J75-RSW-DEEDS1"

What does all that mean? I'll tell you.

DJB is the Dryer VOR, a navigtional fix very close to the Cleveland airport.

HERAK is an intersection of two airways. From there it is direct to the Appleton VOR, then Jet83 (an airway) to Spartanburg VOR, then Jet85 to Taylor VOR, then Jet75 to Lee County VOR, then the 'DEEDS1' Standard Arrival (called a STAR).

BTW, there are two ways to designate airport codes, the ATA (airline transport assoc) and ICAO...in the US all major airports will have a 'K' in front of the ATA identifier. Other countries use another letter 'C' in Canada, 'E' in England, for example.

If you are flying as passenger to London Heathrow, it is 'LHR' The pilots and ATC code it 'EGLL'.

Have fun!

ps...for about 7 bucks you can order aeronautical charts (maps) to show you the Airways nad Intersections and VORs...just go online to any pilot supply website -- Sporty's is a big one.

WW

[adding] Play on the website, you can look at the DEEDS1 STAR, the Jeppesen page for yourself.

Too bad the website doesn't go very far internationally, except Canada and Mexico....





[edit on 4/18/0808 by weedwhacker]

[sec edit....oops, RSW VOR re-named to Lee County]

[edit on 4/18/0808 by weedwhacker]


reply posted on 18-4-2008 @ 05:25 AM by C0bzz
reply to post by Zeus187



When I was a child my school library had a wealth of information on UFOs, which sparked my interest in conspiracies. Some years later I saw a few of them myself - round red objects precisely above me, about the size of your thumbnail held at arms length. All I could say was 'wow'.

Some years later we got pay TV, and shortly afterwards I saw some documentaries on Bob Lazar, Area 51, and UFOs. While searching for pictures of UFOs and such... I stumbled apon ATS and joined. Now... my father is a pilot, so my main passion is aviation - so that's where I post the most.
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