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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 04:29 AM by Mark Roazhar
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It still doesnt answer what columbia has to do with the Queen of England.
Lets play with your conspiracy a little then:
image source: http://www.fahad.com/pics/paramount.jpg
Straight away you can see the pyramid mountain, with stars depicting the heavens above similar to the ancient egyptian goddess Nut
image source: http://www.hope.edu/bandstra/RTOT/CH1/COSMOS.JPG
and this is without even looking at how they've written the words 'A Viacom company' using pyramid style lettering 
Now watch as I debunk myself!
The mountain is a depiction of Ben Lomond Peak, in Utah (although heavily enhanced) and was designed by Adolph Zukor. Since then it has gone through
various re-incarnations and has been depicted in several places in movies, most famously as Mount Sinai in the 10 commandments
The stars actually represent the 24 stars they had on contract when they started the studio, although now there are only 22, 2 of which were lost for
an unknown reason, best explanantion is easier and clearer graphics.
...and speaking of 22, how do your original 22 points fit in with Columbia?
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 04:46 AM by andre18
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Well actually it's funny you should mention paramount –
image source: http://www.aidsprevention.org/img/paramountBankLogo.gif
image source: http://www.filmforum.org/films/paramount/Paramount_Logo3sm.jpg
image source: http://www.paramountseniorliving.com/images/bottomlogo.gif
image source: http://www.paramountforktrucks.co.uk/Resources/Paramount-logo-sm.gif
image source: http://www.paramountenergy.com/images/pet-logo.gif
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reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 10:15 AM by Mark Roazhar
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For goodness sake andre! The Great Pyramid at Giza is the last remaining Wonder of the ancient world. Until the creation of the Eiffel tower in
Paris, it was the tallest structure, unchallenged for thousands of years.
Ofcourse people are impressed by it and want to be attributed with it
People don't fly to Egypt, look at it and go 'not bad is it, thought it would be bigger'???
One of the logos you've submitted as 'evidence' is a fork truck company for crying out loud!
So apart from the Great Pyramid of Giza, what about the orginial 22 points you listed?
1) What is the Stone of Jacob a Hebrew patriarch doing beneath the Queen’s throne chair?
2) Why was the Queen crowned at her coronation ceremony on top of a symbolic Egyptian step Pyramid?
3) The monarchs crown has 12 stones at the base each representing the twelve Hebrew tribes, the twelve stones of the 12 tribes were also worn on the
breastplate of Hebrew high priests in Canaan.
4) The Union Jack represents the reunion of the United Kingdom of the 12 tribes of Jacob or Jack-ob, the Union Jack is red, white and blue, the three
colours of the three crowns of Egypt.
5) The royal sceptre originates in ancient Egypt and was carried by the Egyptian god Amen and by Egyptian Pharaohs who called themselves the son of
god, the royal sceptre is now carried by Queen Elisabeth II.
6) The Queen’s punishing flail or whip is partially hidden under her arm, the flail or whip also originates with the pharaohs of ancient Egypt
7) The symbol of the bee can be found within the Queens royal wardrobe, in Ancient Egypt bees were the symbol of Egypt royalty as well as the symbol
of Egypt.
8) The symbols on the British Coat of Arms revealed Britain’s Hebrew origin, according to the bible the harp symbolizes the Hebrew King David, the
biblical lion and unicorn holding up the shield symbolize the nation of Israel. The motto ‘Dieu et mon droit’ means god and my right, indicating
the divine right of the British Monarch to an eternal throne.
9) The headdress worn by judges and the Queens high ranking officials originate in ancient Egypt.
10) Kilts like the one by Prince Charles originate with the Egyptian pharaohs who wore white kilts.
11) The hymn Zadok the Priest written by Handel was preformed at the Queens coronation in 1952, Zadok the Priest was a biblical priest who anointed
the Hebrew King Solomon while the people cried “God save the king Solomon, long live the King Solomon, may the King live forever, Amen.” Compared
to “god save Queen Elisabeth, long live Queen Elisabeth, may the queen live forever”
12) During the coronation ceremony the queen turns to face the four corners of the globe, the orb carried by the queen represents the globe over which
the monarch rules.
13) The monarch’s coronation gifts of a rod, bracelets and a ring are a re-enactment of the bible story of the Hebrews Judah and Tema.
14) Royal Jubilees originate in ancient Egypt, Egyptian pharaohs celebrated their Jubilees after thirty years of rule. In Pharaonic tradition the
Queen as calibrated both silver and gold Jubilees.
15) Incest was practiced by ancient Egyptian royalty, mothers married sons and brothers married sisters to keep the power and the money all in the
family. Like their Pharaonic ancestors the British Monarchy has a long history of incestrious inbreeding.
16) The corpses of deceased pharaohs were preserved and entombed beneath their pyramid temples, the corpses of 19 deceased British monarchs are also
preserved in marbled tomb slabs beneath the modern day temple called Westminster Abbey.
17) The ancient pharaohs advertised their power with their image on coins and stone monuments, the power of the Queen world wide is advertised with
her image printed on more coins and stamps then any other head of state in history
18) The structure of government in Ancient Egypt was a step pyramid model with a grand vizier and priesthood one step behind the pharaoh, today’s
monarchy reigns with a much more sophisticated model of authority –
World monarch
Crown council of 13 and world’s richest most powerful families
Committee of 300 world’s richest most powerful sub-families, think tanks,
World financial control: central banks, tax revenue, interest revenue, bank of international settlements
World resource control: MasterCard, Exxon, NYSE,
World population control: church, governments, schools media,
Population resources – labour units: debt slaves, sheeple.
19) The Popes headdress is strikingly similar to the headdress of Egyptian god Amen, his bent cross resembles the sceptre of Amen.
20) Like the Egyptian pharaohs British Monarchs wore signet rings which over the millennia have been passed down from their Hebrew ancestors.
21) The British Mint printed legal tender coins called the one true ring and the ring of power, on one side of the coin is Queen Elisabeth II on the
flip side is the ring for Lord of the Rings. These legal tender coins printed by the British Mint raised the disturbing question – who is the real
lord of the rings? The inscription on the ring reads – one ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the
darkness of their ignorance bind them.
22) The covenant that the biblical god gave to Abraham was a promise to make his name great and to make for him a great nation, today great Britain is
the only nation called Great. In Hebrew the word Brit-Ain written literally means land of the covenant and Brit- Ish means man of the covenant.
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reply posted on 24-5-2008 @ 06:38 AM by andre18
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In this stage of the thread forget about the queen the monarch, she’s irrelevant, she’s nothing. What I’m trying to show now is the one dollar
bill’s strange symbols and imaging and how it relates to the ancient Egyptian Jewish hyksos kings. Although if you want a connection with the queen,
there is always this image below – plainly portrayed as a triangle with an eye placed at the top and the British Crown centered in the middle.
image source: http://www.bilderberg.org/mi5logo.gif
But besides all that…..while looking at dollar bill I noticed this:
image source: http://www.geocities.com/bill_kempton/eagle.jpg
Check out the formation of the stars above the eagle – Star of David!!!
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reply posted on 27-5-2008 @ 07:06 AM by Mark Roazhar
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Originally posted by andre18
In this stage of the thread forget about the queen the monarch, she’s irrelevant, she’s nothing. What I’m trying to show now is the one dollar
bill’s strange symbols and imaging and how it relates to the ancient Egyptian Jewish hyksos kings. Although if you want a connection with the queen,
there is always this image below – plainly portrayed as a triangle with an eye placed at the top and the British Crown centered in the middle.
image source: http://www.bilderberg.org/mi5logo.gif
But besides all that…..while looking at dollar bill I noticed this:
image source: http://www.geocities.com/bill_kempton/eagle.jpg
Irrelevant? Your opening post was only about her and the British Government and Monarchy!
So they've got a a triangle. What shape would you prefer? They're using a symbol of an eye, for an intelligence agency.
Originally posted by andre18
Check out the formation of the stars above the eagle – Star of David!!!
So another Christian country is using symbols from the Bible.
Where are the aliens you promised us?
I'll repost in this thread when you have something more solid than wild speculation
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reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 11:51 AM by quintar
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I want to commend both members andre18 and Mark R. for a very interesting discussion.
Mark R.,
I Found some more items perhaps you can use (or not):
For those who think the queen doesn't govern any other nation than UK:
 Archbishop: Will you solemnly promise and swear to govern the Peoples of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Canada,
Australia, New Zealand, the Union of South Africa, Pakistan and Ceylon, and of your Possessions and other Territories to any of them belonging or
pertaining, according to their respective laws and customs?
Part of the above link includes a part from Psalm 122, 1–3, 6, 7. which the Queen quotes:
O Jerusalem.
Jerusalem is built as a city:
that is at unity in itself.
So Jerusalem is a city at unity. United. God's Kingdom. United Kingdom.
Here's another example of it:
Jerusalem is also known as God's Kingdom.
God's Kingdom
From its outset, Israel was no ordinary kingdom. Its kings were appointed by God, made subject to His law, asked to rule His people, in His land; and
they could be deposed by Him if they broke His commandments. There has never been such a kingdom on earth before or since. It was the Kingdom of God -
God's government on earth over the people he had chosen.
Also, during the coronation of the Queen, there's a section where they mention the dove on the rod that is given to the queen.
Then shall the Dean of Westminster bring the Sceptre with the Cross and the Rod with the Dove to the Archbishop.
We know about the columbe (dove in french) and columbia connection. Columbe is one name that the Romans gave to Aphrodite.
The dove is also tied to Aphrodite:
www.moonspeaker.ca...
The Queen has nothing to do with movies, but the word and other corporations named Columbia has everything to do with the Queen.
Christopher columbus
Columbia Pictures
Columbia records
Columbia shuttle
British Columbia
So we have several periods where royal or ruling families constantly used the dove/columb symbolism, and it represents divinity.
Without doubt birds, and especially doves, played an important role in Minoan belief. According to a current interpretation, doves could be
understood as embodiment (epiphany) of a divinity, a representation of a goddess in a bird form nearby her sacred place - a shrine or on a
tree. The doves are interpreted as an emblem of a celestial goddess and are a symbol of her heavenly power, contradictory to a snake, which has been
regarded as an underworld aspect of the goddess and a symbol of her earthly power. Concluding we have to point out that the dove is connected with the sacred places and used as an offering, created from an expensive material in
the Elamic culture in ancient Iran. So, we can suppose, that all of these sources mentioned here -- the Minoan, the Mycenaean and the Oriental played
a role, when a dove came into the Greek and Roman mythology as one of the attributes of the goddess of Love - Aphrodite.
The dove symbolism is one that goes back to pre-babylonian times, and is referred to as:
Mother, Queen DOVE
Semiramis (Babylon)
Ishtar (Babylon)
Ashtoreth/Shekhinah (Israel)
Isis (Egypt Mount Sinai)
Athena (Greece)
Venus/Columbe (Rome)
Spirit-Mother (Roman Catholicism)
Link
So to summarize, we have the Queen/dove/divine goddess ruling from the United Kingdom, where just by coincidence many of the Brit- terms also have a
meaning in Hebrew, meaning covenant/contract/agreement.
Thank you for reading.
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 04:16 PM by OhZone
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Andre says:
”I have to say you know your history – though there’s plenty more evidence I can get into for example the similarities between biblical
characters and Egyptian pharaohs: King David reigned for 50 years, pharaoh Psusennes also ruled Canaan for 50 years at the same time as the biblical
king David – both battled the same enemy called the sea people or philistines. Pharaoh Siamun and King Solomon reigned at exactly the same time and
again, fought the same enemies in Canaan called the Matani, the Hittites and the Philistines.”
**** This is rather too much of a coincidence. Suspicion is that they are the same person.
Here is an interesting article on Abraham and his entry into Egyptand the subsequent kingship of the
Hyksos. abraham
There is better evidence that Moses was Pharaoh Akhenaton. He was raised by Hebrews/Hyksos and married to Nefertiti. He became obsessed with his god
Aton and forbid the worship of other gods. He & the Hyksos were expelled from Egypt. This was not a mass exodus as the bible would have you b elieve.
It took place over many years.
Akhenaten was not at all pleased about this and did attempt to retrun.
If you want to learn more about this you need to check out the work of Michael Tsarion. You can listen to streaming audio here:
tsarion
On the left side there is a list of topics. Take you choice and enjoy.
Now, if you think that they all went and settled in what is now Israel, you should research more.
There is an interesting book "The Medieval Empire of the Israelites" which suggests that they went a little further North and did devleop and
Empire.
This site has 4 chapters of the book on line.
empire
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 04:30 PM by Swingarm
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You watched Ring of Power I see. This movie is quite good. I don't know if I the bit about the antichrist being prince william. I guess will see. Did
you say those points you make in the OP our your own reserach? The Ring of Power movie states exactly the same thing. Sure you did'nt just take
notes  It iteresting how in that video they say the the tribe of dan (1 of the 12 tribes) is responsible for the naming of demark (the mark of
dan).and how there was no kingship in europe until the 11 century or somthing like that. Can't remember watched the movie last year.
here's the link to the video. It is worth watching.It's not the complete video
is around 180-200 minutes
video.google.com...
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 05:34 PM by Swingarm
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I just went and retreived it from my book shelf. Hmm.. Let see, it's a 4 disc set.
Ring of Power: Secret History Rediscovered
This documentary represents over four years of research by an anonymous professional. The result is an astonishing account of the histories of the
world detailing the transference of power from the ancient world to the modern age and the mechanisms of that power, from organised religion to the
corporate media and the pantomime of limited democracy.
The production values are far from professional but the high degree and accuracy of the information is remarkable, as is the ability of the film-maker
to present the complete picture from an ancient and complex puzzle.
We are ultimately left with the same conclusion about the state of affairs in our world. The cookie trail ends with the banking elite and the small
cabal of closed families who manipulate world affairs using whatever means necessary. Up until this point they have only been able to manipulate
global events and adapt to social change, but the time is drawing near when they will be able to control global events and prevent social change. This
video is a remarkable step into that reality.
Disc 1 9/11 the untold story, part 2 hidden Empire, part 3 hidden empire
Disc 2 part 4 God and the Queen, part 5 All the Queens Men
Disc 3 part 6 The Godfathers, part 7 CHEATING at monopoly
Disc 4 part 8, Asses of Evil part 9 King of Hearts, Part 10 Solutions
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 06:35 PM by Icarus Rising
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The Bible records a meeting between Abraham and the ruler of Salem (Jerusalem), when Abraham is returning from the defeat of the kings.
Genesis 14
1 And it came to pass in the days of Amraphel king of Shinar, Arioch king of Ellasar, Chedorlaomer king of Elam, and Tidal king of nations;
2 That these made war with Bera king of Sodom, and with Birsha king of Gomorrah, Shinab king of Admah, and Shemeber king of Zeboiim, and the king of
Bela, which is Zoar.
3 All these were joined together in the vale of Siddim, which is the salt sea.
4 Twelve years they served Chedorlaomer, and in the thirteenth year they rebelled.
5 And in the fourteenth year came Chedorlaomer, and the kings that were with him, and smote the Rephaims in Ashteroth Karnaim, and the Zuzims in Ham,
and the Emims in Shaveh Kiriathaim,
6 And the Horites in their mount Seir, unto Elparan, which is by the wilderness.
7 And they returned, and came to Enmishpat, which is Kadesh, and smote all the country of the Amalekites, and also the Amorites, that dwelt in
Hazezontamar.
8 And there went out the king of Sodom, and the king of Gomorrah, and the king of Admah, and the king of Zeboiim, and the king of Bela (the same is
Zoar) and they joined battle with them in the vale of Siddim;
9 With Chedorlaomer the king of Elam, and with Tidal king of nations, and Amraphel king of Shinar, and Arioch king of Ellasar; four kings with five.
10 And the vale of Siddim was full of slimepits; and the kings of Sodom and Gomorrah fled, and fell there; and they that remained fled to the
mountain.
11 And they took all the goods of Sodom and Gomorrah, and all their victuals, and went their way.
12 And they took Lot, Abram’s brother’s son, who dwelt in Sodom, and his goods, and departed.
13 And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; for he dwelt in the plain of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol, and brother of
Aner: and these were confederate with Abram.
14 And when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his trained servants, born in his own house, three hundred and eighteen, and
pursued them unto Dan.
15 And he divided himself against them, he and his servants, by night, and smote them, and pursued them unto Hobah, which is on the left hand of
Damascus.
16 And he brought back all the goods, and also brought again his brother Lot, and his goods, and the women also, and the people.
17 And the king of Sodom went out to meet him after his return from the slaughter of Chedorlaomer, and of the kings that were with him, at the valley
of Shaveh, which is the king’s dale.
18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.
19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:
20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.
21 And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself.
22 And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth,
23 That I will not take from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made
Abram rich:
24 Save only that which the young men have eaten, and the portion of the men which went with me, Aner, Eshcol, and Mamre; let them take their
portion.
Hebrews 7
1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;
2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is,
King of peace;
3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a
priest continually.
4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.
5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to
the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:
6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.
7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.
Longwinded external, but it all needs to be there.
Regarding the sceptre of Judah.
Genesis 49
8 Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father’s children shall bow down before
thee.
9 Judah is a lion’s whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him
up?
10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people
be.
11 Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass’s colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:
12 His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.
Hasn't Shiloh come? Is somebody hogging the sceptre?
Oh, and the misnomered Star of David.
Amos 5
24 But let judgment run down as waters, and righteousness as a mighty stream.
25 Have ye offered unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel?
26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.
27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.
Acts 7
43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond
Babylon.
You are referring to the occult hexagram. Solomon was lead astray.
Remphan
Was Melchisedec a Nordic?
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