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Originally posted by JanusFIN
I just look another researchers video, questioning Holocaust - and death camps evidence... I am still keeping my neutral mind in this issue, and thought this video deserves to publish here in ATS too.
For suitable existing thread, I search ATS with word "Aushwitz" --- I get as first findings result this old thread of mine ... For those who think I am dedicated "Holocaust Denier (tm)" - Sorry to make dissapointment - I question these days everything what is learned to be as our history.
In my eyes both sides are right in this issue of Holocaust -
"It did happen, and it didnt like they told us."
Originally posted by Power_Semi
Originally posted by DisInfo
They deny it because the hearts of these people are racist against Jews or something.
You know, I really, really hate that kind of statement. It is fallacious & completely devoid of any form of intellectual reasoning.
The notion that questioning whether some event in history occured or not, no matter how strongly you may feel about it, does not make the person asking the question a racist - the mere suggestion of racism is nothing more than a lazy & unqualified attempt to discredit & blacken the name of the person that it is aimed at.
The simple truth, whether you choose to accept it or not, is that no one really knows whether the holocaust occured or not, unless you personally were there.
Documents claiming to show x or y are merely CLAIMING to show the truth, you either accept them at face value - not usually a wise thing to do, or you dismiss them - not necessarily a wise thing either.
The truth is that you can easily see that it might be desirable for the Allies to claim, falsley, that the holocaust happened in order to ensure the total destruction of Nazism, & so it is possible that that is what happened.
Similarly, it could be the case that the holocaust did happen & that the documents portray the true facts.
I can never understand why, in the light of other examples of our governments lying to us, that people will just take claims at face value without thinking. We were not the squeaky clean "good guys" that some of us seem to think.
We firebombed cities full of civilians - not military targets - & killed Hundreds of Thousands of women & children in the process, much like we've bombed & killed tens of thousands of Iraqis in the process of bringing them "freedom."
Its a strange kind of democracy & freedom that comes at the end of a gun.
We could have done things differently in WW2 & Iraq without targetting civilians, the fact that we didn't shows how little regard WE have for Human life, & in that light I don't think that telling a few porkies about what the "bad guys" were up to is altogether unlikely.
I'm still not saying it didn't happen though, I don't know because I wasn't there.
[edit on 13-4-2008 by Power_Semi]