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AJ: Do you think they were not following orders?
DGP: Who, the Happy Hooligans?
AJ: Well, yeah, you've got Cheney running around, we've got the stand down taking place.
DGP: Well, this is correct, but you see the Adj. General of the State of North Dakota gave the command to take it out. And, by God, they took it out. And I've got the full story in the book.
"DGP: Okay, quick rundown. They were out of Hector Field, Fargo, North Dakota. A bunch, this 119 Fighter Group and they are called the Happy Hooligans. They are probably the best interceptors that we have in the country. They were moved to Langley Air Force Base from Hector Field down to Southern Virginia. And when the klaxon horn went off at 9:35, those two pilots put down their coffee and shot into their aircraft and took off. They didn't know where they were going initially but by 10:00 hours, they had rendezvoused over Southern Pennsylvania. That's about 250 miles in just a matter of minutes and engaged 93 with two side-winder missiles. And they accomplished their objective. Now Hector Field, I use to fly out of Hector Field some time ago. I know most of those pilots. I could name names. I know the National Guard Adj. General. And they were decorated about a year later and I have the full write up of that story in my book."
"I was able to find out this regarding the 119th Fighter Group:
"The announcement was made in March 1999 that the 119th Fighter Wing would convert from an air defense mission to a general purpose mission with 15 F-16A/B aircraft while activating an alert detachment at Langley AFB, VA. In its 2005 BRAC Recommendations, DoD recommended to realign Hector International Airport Air Guard Station, ND. The 119th Fighter Wing’s F-16s (15 aircraft) would retire. The wing’s expeditionary combat support elements would remain in place. Hector (125) ranked low in military value. The reduction in F-16 force structure and the need to align common versions of the F-16 at the same bases argued for realigning Hector to allow its aircraft to retire without a flying mission backfill."
"Yes, they were flying F-16s out of North Dakota and it was widely reported that immediately following the crash, two F-16s showed up. Whether or not these fighter jets were scrambled from Hector Field is unknown to any degree of certainty. I could fine no references to this unit flying Warthogs out of Hector Field.
"It is my understanding that the actual individual who "pulled the trigger" is a Maj. Rick Gibney."
Originally posted by IvanZana
LetsRoll has discovered the name of the pilot as well as all other pertinent ... First, Major Ricky Gibney, Major Gibney
Letsroll911 is the possibly government sponsored disinfo site that originally started all the silly stupid thoeries that was featured in Popular mechanics 'Debunking 911 myths".
please see this post www.abovetopsecret.com...
Originally posted by beachnut
With the hearsay evidence, no missiles missing on 9/11, I have to flag this story as pure hearsay and false. Even reading this thread 10 more times will not make the hearsay turn into "hard evidence".
According to Air National Guard spokesman Master Sgt. David Somdahl, Gibney flew an F-16 that morning--but nowhere near Shanksville. He took off from Fargo, N.D., and flew to Bozeman, Mont., to pick up Ed Jacoby Jr., the director of the New York State Emergency Management Office. Gibney then flew Jacoby from Montana to Albany, N.Y., so Jacoby could coordinate 17,000 rescue workers engaged in the state's response to 9/11. Jacoby confirms the day's events. "I was in Big Sky for an emergency managers meeting. Someone called to say an F-16 was landing in Bozeman. From there we flew to Albany." Jacoby is outraged by the claim that Gibney shot down Flight 93. "I summarily dismiss that because Lt. Col. Gibney was with me at that time. It disgusts me to see this because the public is being misled.
Originally posted by Studenofhistory
reply to post by Markshark4
Let me add another possibility to the thread. Webster Tarpley, in his well-researched book, 911: Synthetic Terror, makes a very convincing case that some unknown group, which could be rogue CIA, Neo-cons, or perhaps even a foreign intelligence agency, had penetrated the computer systems that controlled SS (Secret Service) communications, FAA air-traffic control radars and even Nuclear launch control codes, and essentially orchestrated the entire 9/11 operation. Bush was threatened with assassination when the SS received an anonymous but coded transmission that 'Angel is next'. Angel was the code word for that day for Air Force One. The reason why Bush flew to Omaha instead of Washington, was because of the fear that the senders of that message could send fake launch orders to StratCom for nuclear missile launch and Bush wanted to be there in person to countermand any bogus orders. He was faced with an ultimatum by the 'group' of either declaring a war on Islamic extremists (clash of civilizations) or the 'group' would take matters into their own hands and order nuclear missile launches.
I want to add some more interesting facts from Tarpley's book that are not well known. Apparently, 4 young men of Arab descent, pulled up in a van at the gate to the resort where Bush was staying early in the morning of September 11th. They told the SS agent on duty that they were a TV crew who had arranged for a poolside interview with Bush before he left to go to the school photo opp. The SS agent (I'm using the abbreviated form of Secret Service on purpose) didn't know anything about the interview and refused them entrance (BUT DIDN'T TRY TO DETAIN THEM). The van drove away and they were never seen again. Now...add to this that one of the major warlords in Afganistan was assassinated three day earlier when the camera of a 'TV crew' sent to interview him exploded PLUS the assertion that Flight 93 (or the drone posing as 93) was intended to crash into the Capital Building and you have a very interesting hypothesis. If Bush had been assassinated and Congress decapitated, who would be left in charge? The obvious answer is Cheney and it would be easy to pin the blame on him but maybe that's too obvious.
Originally posted by beachnut
placed all the DNA and stuff in a hole
Originally posted by Sauron
I was always under the impression that Major Rick Gibney of the Happy Hooligans, shot the flight 93 down. So Claims Col. Donn de Grand-Pre, U.S. Army (ret.)
Donn de Grand-Pre is either lying or he's telling the truth and the government is covering up.
Six of one or half a dozen of the other I guess.