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Homeland Security Set to Use New Spy Program in U.S.

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posted on Apr, 12 2008 @ 02:04 PM
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Homeland Security Set to Use New Spy Program in U.S.


www.washingtonpost.com

The Bush administration said yesterday that it plans to start using the nation's most advanced spy technology for domestic purposes soon, rebuffing challenges by House Democrats over the idea's legal authority.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Apr, 12 2008 @ 02:05 PM
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New spy program?

On Top of the Patriot Act?

The Patriot act wasn't enough?
Someone explain this to me.

www.washingtonpost.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Apr, 12 2008 @ 02:12 PM
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The administration in May 2007 gave DHS authority to coordinate requests for satellite imagery, radar, electronic-signal information, chemical detection and other monitoring capabilities that have been used for decades within U.S. borders for mapping and disaster response.


From washington post article linked by OP.

Big brother is flexing his muscles here!

These are the kind of things I really wish weren't happening.

Is this what our country has really become?



posted on Apr, 12 2008 @ 09:20 PM
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This thread needed to be bumped to the top.

Here's another source on the same subject:

Administration Set to Use New Spy Program in U.S.: Congressional Critics Want More Assurances of Legality


Oh don't worry, the only way its legal is because of the patriot act. And by patriot I mean "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001."

Aka, welcome to the police state Americans and if you're against us, you're with the terrorists.


The Bush administration said yesterday that it plans to start using the nation's most advanced spy technology for domestic purposes soon, rebuffing challenges by House Democrats over the idea's legal authority.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said his department will activate his department's new domestic satellite surveillance office in stages, starting as soon as possible with traditional scientific and homeland security activities -- such as tracking hurricane damage, monitoring climate change and creating terrain maps.

Sophisticated overhead sensor data will be used for law enforcement once privacy and civil rights concerns are resolved, he said. The department has previously said the program will not intercept communications.


Domestic surveillance, nothing new. Only an updated version of what we've had for years. Sounds great to me
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"There is no basis to suggest that this process is in any way insufficient to protect the privacy and civil liberties of Americans," Chertoff wrote to Reps. Bennie G. Thompson (D-Miss.) and Jane Harman (D-Calif.), chairmen of the House Homeland Security Committee and its intelligence subcommittee, respectively, in letters released yesterday.

"I think we've fully addressed anybody's concerns," Chertoff added in remarks last week to bloggers. "I think the way is now clear to stand it up and go warm on it."


HA! My civil liberties were breached as soon as the Bush Administration came to power after not winning the popular vote. They were again breached when the war against Afghanistan was initiated. They were again breached when the illegal war against iraq began. They were again breached (this is before Iraq) when the Patriot act was passed. They were breached again when the patriot act 2 was passed. They were again breached when the violent homegrown terrorism bill was passed. I'm not even going to get into 911 on this thread.

Breach after breach after breach and no oversight. No Senate hearings for impeachment of this cabal. No congressional queries.

Nothing.

Criminals the lot of them.



posted on Apr, 12 2008 @ 09:45 PM
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posted on Apr, 12 2008 @ 10:20 PM
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Ok, how much more evidence do we need presented before the American people go "hey, didn't Hitler do something similar to this?". Things are getting as bad if not worse then Orwell predicted.



posted on Apr, 12 2008 @ 10:26 PM
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Here's some interesting stuff on the constitution.

www.youtube.com...


Please, listen to the kitty. She makes sense.



posted on Apr, 12 2008 @ 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by biggie smalls

Sophisticated overhead sensor data will be used for law enforcement once privacy and civil rights concerns are resolved, he said. The department has previously said the program will not intercept communications.




OMG!

When I read this my heart literally thudded.

Maybe what my heart was doing was breaking.

It is so hard to be a witness to the death of something that could have been great.

R.I.P America.

And what is this drivel about 'the program will not intercept communications'?

Since they already do just that, is this supposed to make us believe that they don't? Or are we supposed to somehow feel better about it? What?



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 02:24 AM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia


New spy program?

On Top of the Patriot Act?

The Patriot act wasn't enough?
Someone explain this to me.

www.washingtonpost.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


Perhaps you forgot that there are still people abroad, who could very well be in the US, who mean us harm?



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 02:48 AM
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If its being publicly announced do you think it wasn't
enacted years ago??

I put absolutely nothing beyond the realm of the scheming US Gov't

I'd say cheers.... but I wouldn't mean it

Mungo



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 02:55 AM
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[Grafted from Wikipedia]
The Nazis' use of pro-labor rhetoric appealed to those disaffected with capitalism by promoting the limiting of profits, the abolishing of rents and the increasing of social benefits (only for Germans) while simultaneously presenting a political and economic model that divested "Soviet socialism" of elements that were dangerous to capitalism, such as the concept of class struggle, "the dictatorship of the proletariat" or worker control of the means of production. Thus, Nazism's populism, anti-communism and anti-capitalism helped it become more powerful and popular than traditional conservative parties, like the DNVP.


How do they do it?

They make the alternative seem foolish to follow.

[edit on 13-4-2008 by Anti-Tyrant]



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 02:56 AM
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Originally posted by mungodave
If its being publicly announced do you think it wasn't
enacted years ago??

I put absolutely nothing beyond the realm of the scheming US Gov't

I'd say cheers.... but I wouldn't mean it

Mungo


Your not even american, so how does this directly affect your life?



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 03:26 AM
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Thanks for keeping us up to date with what the Department of Anti-human life is doing to our once great nation.

After reading the article I couldn't help but notice that Michael Chertoff resembles a non-human or Alien who's had surgery to disguise his true Alien form. It's no wonder he and his non-human comrades are destroying America.

Here's his Blowup, so you too can recognize this non-human enemy of the Earth.





posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 03:27 AM
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Originally posted by West Coast
Perhaps you forgot that there are still people abroad, who could very well be in the US, who mean us harm?


They most certainly ARE in the US. They intend to rain down unimaginable havok upon the US and they will not cease these efforts until the country which we know and love has been completely destroyed.

I'm not speaking of terrorists (at least not the foreign kind). I speak of our own government. Piece by piece, bit by bit, dollar by dwindling dollar they are slowly but surely dismantling every last vestige of freedom and prosperity which our constititution once afforded us. Mark my words, before this is over, speaking out in favor of the constitution will have become an act of sedition.

Sorry, didnt mean to take this off topic.



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 03:32 AM
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DO NOT forget those members of society who can profit from the destruction of the U.S state..

Hench, the NWO.



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 03:33 AM
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Excuse me for having an opinion.

The light aren't on over here.

We happen to fight side by side with the US in their god awful wars, so I do have an opinion..

Sorry if it doesn't agree with your point of view.

Mungo



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 03:59 AM
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Originally posted by mungodave
reply to post by West Coast
 


Excuse me for having an opinion.

The light aren't on over here.

We happen to fight side by side with the US in their god awful wars, so I do have an opinion..

Sorry if it doesn't agree with your point of view.

Mungo


You can have your opinion, but its meaningless.



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by West Coast
Perhaps you forgot that there are still people abroad, who could very well be in the US, who mean us harm?


So instead of securing our borders, the entire population is subjected to surveillance programs. That's not logical and when I see my government refusing to take the obvious, logical, and mandated actions (911 commission, congressional border fence bill), and instead take away more of our liberties and privacy, it's easy to tell what their true motives are.



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 05:25 AM
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Just a question.

What have any of these things done to you personally?

What effect have they had? Don’t include your worrying about things, but post a actually physical change to the way you live that can be placed on these.

In fact I would like ANYBODY that has had a real change in their lives caused by these things.



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 09:03 AM
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What's going to happen is ..

Bush will come to a point where he must make a decision.

Essentially the temptation of Lucifer, he can go quietly like every other 2nd term president except Roosevelt during WW2 I believe, who had 3 terms. The war on terror is being talked about so much lately like it is somehow more or bigger than WW2, simply due to the number of years its going on, these kinds of comparisons. Surely not the death count, nor the destruction, although bad. He can go after the election, and let the next person come in.

If this happens, the "parting of the rainy clouds" scenario as I call it, we can eventually again be everything America was, and stands for, and move peacefully into the future.

The other choice Bush will have, as many of us see, will be to let/enact/fail to stop/whatever a terror attack of sufficient brashness, "bigger than 9/11" .. and bigger than war. If it happens, the emergency laws he himself had enacted at an earlier, slightly more active period of his "command" will come into play, the election wont happen or if it is happening won't count, the next will not be seated, and Bush would become the next 3rd termer, to lead us at that point into obvious oblivion by around the end of 2013, yes thats a 3, haha.

So I say to my friends I shall say now to ATS: If you still don't have it, you'd better get your gun already.



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