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Originally posted by Harte
I would love to see some, any, even a single example of a true "OOPArt."
Ive looked pretty thoroughly through the claimed ones and found them either explainable, missing, mischaracterized or fakes.
Good luck doing better than me.
Originally posted by diablomonic
On another note:
~120 MYO 3d map (not sure how they figure that, just cos the fossil in it is 120 myo, doesnt meanit wasnt already fossilised...)
could be related (or just more rubbish). Alien survey?
Originally posted by Essan
Well, don't get me wrong, but if you can't make up your own mind just by a bit of logical thinking and by looking at the pictures in that link, you really are P T Barnum's best ever customer
As Harte has already said, the problem with ooparts is either they are clearly fakes or misidentifications or else there is no evidence that they ever even existed.
I;d love to see a verifiable oopart. Although personally I favour the time travel or ancient alien visitor theory to any suggestion modern humans have been on this planet for million of years
btw one of the best sites for ooparts is : s8int.com... just make sure you switch off your gullibility circuits before reading! I think I can disprove, or provide alternative explanations for, most of what is written there although maybe not all!
As already discussed Ed Conrad and Ted Holden's claims about their fossil finds in the Carboniferous rocks near Shenandoah, Pennsylvania, hinge on three key points:
1) The specimens consist of fossil bone
2) The fossil bone is not from an expected Carboniferous animal, it is HUMAN bone
3)The specimens occur in situ in Carboniferous bedrock
The specimens examined here completely fail to substantiate #1, let alone #2, and only Ed and Ted can substantiate #3 (so far, they have not to any reasonable degree of scientific rigor for specimens also meeting #1 and #2). Both the examined specimens are cemented, fine-grained sandstones, possibly concretions or other non-bone structures. There is no trace of bone microstructure. The information presented on Ted's WWW site fails to improve the situation. In the absence of the demonstration of unambiguous bone microstructure with magnified, microscopic images of some sort, their claims will remain completely unsubstantiated. While it is possible that Ed and Ted have found genuine fossil bone in Carboniferous strata (and such a discovery would be consistent with conventional paleontology ), a demonstration to that effect would still leave documentation of #2 and #3 incomplete as currently (20/05/96) presented.
As currently presented, Ed and Ted's claims are, bluntly, without scientific substance. Furthermore, it appears that both Ed and Ted sent me specimens they considered fossil bone, but even simple observation under low power (10x) revealed otherwise. A surface cut with a rock saw and wetted to improve visibility with a hand lens is all that is needed to make it more obvious. The identification of these specimens as variably-cemented sandstone was obvious without any sophisticated equipment or tests. Further tests only made the identification more definitive and easier to document.
Originally posted by diablomonic
an oopart site with the apparently no nonsense approach of this atlantis site would be nice...
simple, hard to argue with information, no huge leaps of speculation passed of as fact (I have no problem with speculation, in fact I like it, it just shouldn't be presented as fact)
The vimana flew toward Atlantis (Atala, in the account)
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Alright. What about the pillar in Dendera?
A short answer will suffice.