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posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 07:45 AM
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reply to post by triplepoint
 


The mechanical hammer, small as a clock, that he attached to
a girder on a New York building under construction must have had
a feedback to find the resonant frequency.

Not that simple.

The girders began to sway and the workers came off the structure,
so Tesla picked it off and went away.

Inside a large building, perhaps the same device caused the rumblings
blocks away and Tesla stopped that one in time.




posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by N_15L_S01


I've read about Tesla, and he has a huge amout of patents to show for his work.
Can I just say for those who keep on saying he was 'killed', he died at the age of 86, in room 3327 of the New Yorker Hotel, January 1943, of heart failure.
86 is a hell of an age for that time period, and there was no report of murder or anything to suggest otherwise. OK the Government took possesion of his materials from the hotel safe (apparently they still have some) but thats what we expect from them.


Tesla was visited several times by associates of Edison, several times in the years prior to his death. In an unexplained fire his house was burned down in 1895, due to this and threats he fled to Colorado to begin anew. This is when Tesla began to recluse and associate with very few people.
Also Tesla would not stay in one place for very long, he would often live from room to room in differing hotels. Is that not what fugatives do, hunted men?


I never mentioned fugitive once.
I was refering to the post where it was stated "Telsa was assassinated by two of Edison’s thugs"
I said he lived to the age of 86, which is good even by todays standards!


Originally posted by N_15L_S01

I understand, theoretically, what the OP was on about.
What I understand, and if this is not what the OP was on about apologies, is that electromagnetic wavelengths can alter cell division, by either increasing or decreasing the division rates.


This is part of the puzzle, but I was also refering to the bodies naturally emitted EMF and the cause and reaction to it's weakening and or alterations. Each bodies 10 trillion cells have a magnetic moment, when in tune with eachother this causes an electromagnetic field, causing us to bedome walking electromagnets. Partially due to the amount of water in our bodies, MRIs are a measurement of a bodies moments within it's adoms in cells. When there is a disturbance it is picked up by the machine and thus anomalies can be picked up and electronically transcribed to visible qualities/picture. It is also true that EMFs can alter cell division by the radiation, EMFs are relatively low dosage and spectrum radiation.


Could you stipulate exactly what illness affects you on the subatomic scale?


Originally posted by N_15L_S01

What the 2nd poster refers to, again apologies if Im wrong, is cell destruction or death of the cell, which would not be able to be repaired or reanimated.


He was talking about defective cells reproducing causing cancer.


Since neither of you can agree, that is for him to answer.


Originally posted by N_15L_S01

In cancer treatments, radiation is used to slow the division rate in cancer cells, which divide faster than their neighboring cells.
This can lead to all manner of problems due to the fact that radiation can not be easily directed, at present.


My wife has Aplastic Anemia and secondary onset Luekemia, I know all about radiation treatments.


There is a difference between knowing about, and knowing


Originally posted by N_15L_S01

Neither, at present, can an electromagnetic fields.


This is where you are wrong, cell phones at present no longer get hot (newer versions). This is due to the reduction of radiation emitted by the EMF the phone producing while in usage.


You seem to have misread what I have stated. I was on about being able to control it so that it would only go to a certain point and nowhere else.



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 09:10 AM
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Never heard of Edison and Tesla getting near one another.

Two of the earliest biographies say nothing too detailed of events
surrounding his death.

And the FBI found things very quickly.

Did they put pressure on George Schriff?



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by N_15L_S01


This is where you are wrong, cell phones at present no longer get hot (newer versions).


I don't know what kind of cell phones you get to use, but every cell phone I have ever used gets hot if used for an hour or more. I spent about 3 hours on mine last night (Helio Ocean) and it was quite toasty.

I didn't read 4+pages of posts, but I thought energy (electricity at least) already had been transferred through the air in the form of electromagnetic waves using a very large generator and a generous reciever, however, due to the fact that electromagnetic waves disrupt much of our technologies, it was found to be more troublesome than it was worth.

[edit on 14-4-2008 by Demonis]



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 12:32 PM
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I think Tesla transmitted power through the earth even though he had
apparatus on the surface.

No cables, he put light bubs in the ground and they lit up.

He had one wire light bulbs that went into the air and other strange
experiments with insulators picking up the current.



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 12:55 PM
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Perhaps you have not seen this.

www.abovetopsecret.com...'



I don't know exactly what this is for, but I do believe it came from Tesla's work.

Anyways I don't know much about physics or science maybe someone here can help me out with this.



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 08:05 PM
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Yup.

A coil on the right and a beam on the left, its the UFO mechanism.

The coil is at the bottom of every saucer or triangle craft or any
shaped UFO, and the beam is a Tesla bulb centrally placed above the
coil in the craft.

Don't get too excited about UFOs, you probably will never see one.

ED: Thats Colorado Springs.. he is purported to have been near Los Alamos,
TA-33 (Technical Area 33) when he worked on saucers. It is now dis infoed
as radioactive from weapon testing and Tesla was never there, yet he
lt all the coil forms with his handwriting on them.
A barn where Von Braun may have met Tesla, now thats a land mark.


[edit on 4/14/2008 by TeslaandLyne]



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 08:50 PM
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Wireless power transmission was done via the Tesla Coil.
You can buy one online from many sources. A large loop coil is used as a receiver. The tesla coil can light fluorescent tubes without wires, or for that matter without a lamp. However the power does not get generated in the coil. You have to put the power into it. This is a small version of the tower he built in NY which was a variant in which he used the earth as a resonant chamber. When he turned that one on, sparks were seen off the wings of butterflys five miles from the tower. I have never read of a generator being hooked to the tower. I would love to know if one was used.

Later in his life it is said that he built an electric car which was powered by a little box with two tuning rods sticking out of it. which lay in the passenger seat. This is the free energy device, not the coil. Possibly the tower was also a free energy device, I'm not certain.



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 09:24 PM
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The tower had coal steam powered generators.
The best generators I suppose.

The central coil was buried deep in the ground.
The dome must evidently be a capacitor.

Tesla didn't get into small generators until he realized he could not
power flight from wireless in time to prove his saucer design.
A test in 1917 perhaps with a gyroscope for guidance proved the design.

Actually an air gap device like old record pickup varied a larger current
was invented before 1900 and ended up in German submarines only
to be discovered by the Navy around the 1970s and quickly classified.

ED: Don't think the car story is true. But the iron bar antenna
on the car may give an energy boost to signals at a K shell resonance.
Any evidence Tesla built a tower in Canada to power the car,
I don't think so.
Or the FBI was very busy taking away all evidence of Tesla's existence.
So in your face Illuminati, let the works of Tesla be known.


[edit on 4/14/2008 by TeslaandLyne]



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 10:12 PM
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Einstein brought the German A bomb design with him to America hoping
it to be used against Germany.


Huh? This is totally wrong.

Einstein knew absolutely nothing about the A-bomb design.

The just departed Wheeler & Bohr figured out how nuclear fission worked from hearing results from Meitner et al in Germany. Then Fermi & people figured out the reactor and many details.

When physicists described the nuclear chain reaction to Einstein he said supposedly "Hmmm, clever, I never thought of that."

The A-bomb secrets are fundamentally *experimental* and *engineering*. Not at all what Einstein was invovled in at that time.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
reply to post by Cyberbian
 


The tower had coal steam powered generators.
The best generators I suppose.

The central coil was buried deep in the ground.
The dome must evidently be a capacitor.

Tesla didn't get into small generators until he realized he could not
power flight from wireless in time to prove his saucer design.
A test in 1917 perhaps with a gyroscope for guidance proved the design.

Actually an air gap device like old record pickup varied a larger current
was invented before 1900 and ended up in German submarines only
to be discovered by the Navy around the 1970s and quickly classified.

ED: Don't think the car story is true. But the iron bar antenna
on the car may give an energy boost to signals at a K shell resonance.
Any evidence Tesla built a tower in Canada to power the car,
I don't think so.
Or the FBI was very busy taking away all evidence of Tesla's existence.
So in your face Illuminati, let the works of Tesla be known.


[edit on 4/14/2008 by TeslaandLyne]





Your off bud specifically in your last comment towards Illuminati

Heres why

First reference patent 568,178

The iron bars were to vary the inductance of the lc to ... create a resonate tuned circuit

This patent shows it nicely in its early form


he uses a coil with an iron bar in the primary Timing circuit of his device. The rods can be moved in our out to change inductance of the coil. Inductance is the ratio of magnetic flux to the current. Think of it as an early tuning knob.As well your leaving out his custom vacuum tubes he had in that box...
I guess could be wrong since he Tesla didnt tell me himself but i would seem odd to hear rumors of a box with iron rods and then find a patent with an iron rod that has a very specific purpose.
Joe



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 01:09 AM
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that's right I read about this theory to!
I also read somewhere that today's wires and coils etc. are made in such a manner that reproducing Tesla's most important experiments are impossible does any one know of this?

[edit on 15-4-2008 by johndoeknows]



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 12:14 PM
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Are you saying that the picture I posted is the Tesla coil?



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by N_15L_S01

Given, there are some cons to using super magnets some possibly being ethical, I do believe the advancements will outweigh the costs. Einstein developed the bomb not as a weapon, but once he understood the importance of charting the Adam and splitting it, thus he reluctantly agreed.



He says he did.
I said he gave America the A bomb plans that Germany had.
The plans were given to Einstein, I understand Einstein knew nothing
of the bomb construction. Actually being developed in Telemark, Norway
with perhaps Neils Bohr knowing the fuse mechanism. There would also
be altitude detonation electronics. This is also thought ready by the
wars end in Germany but not in America.

Now I remember a TV PBS Documentary of a nuclear expert that
had Einstein write a letter to FDR to start the Manhattan Project.
See, American was already behind.
If the Illuminati are smart, this TV Documentary should disappear.
This man read the German plans and knew we were in a bad situation.

Trinity Site had lots of electronics on the ground but Germany had
already tested the bomb electronics perhaps in North Africa.
Rommel's troops were given moral boosters consisting of New York
pictures on postcards with a mushroom cloud over it.
America may have detonated the first Atomic blast at Trinity Site
but Germany had three bomb delivers systems in the works.
One with perhaps a Neutron bomb, kill the New Yorkers and save
making rubble out of the buildings. Step in and take over.
The would be done down the east coast getting to Washington DC.


Back to Tesla since there is a lot posted.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 01:27 PM
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@TeslaandLyne

If you have a chance to reply to my above comment that would be great!!

Second thing you guys are missing is this.. Your talking about two different schools of physics.. One being einstines and one being tesla's

Tesla Knew there was an aether there modern physics is only starting to get this. Scalar physics deals with the issues the others wont touch. people are talkign here like this stuff is fringe... Ive seen tesla coils they work like there suspost to ... the gov has covered it up... go wind one hold a floro tube next to it and find out.. my buddy made a 4 inch replica that lit a few floro tubes. we have also dabbled with resonate l- wave transmission well... its more resonate transfer ... Tesla does not irradiate waves in his system he simply modulates a carrier waiting to be received on another resonate terminal. You all have been lied to. When a rotating magnetic feild reaches velocity it will keep going for a while.. years. There are some versions of turbines/generators that need to be "spun up" once started as long as there is an ac load drawing and returning the current it can go on forever..


Now take the power company pretend they start there turbines and you the sucker turns on the light giving there remote generator a load. Now they can charge you over and over for the same power they keep feeding back to you in a never ending circle... really think about that one.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by 12.21.12
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Are you saying that the picture I posted is the Tesla coil?


Thats a piece of art that I interpreted.

Look at the right. See how one end is out from the back representing
a coil. So what is Tesla known for .. coils.

Do you know the electrical properties of the coil.
Very impressive if Tesla dealt with them.

And Tesla gave some phenomenal statement about the energy in a spark.
Basically incalculable with Standard Model or Relativistic Physics.

The mag field collapses on a coil to keep its current constant.
If you break the circuit, what happens.
A spark.That spark needed thousands of volts to create.

Amazing isn't it.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 02:16 PM
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Well if it is I need your help. I left a link to a thread I started about this, but my research is flawed. I can answer most questions about the park itself. If this is what I think it is, you can probably explain it better than I can.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 02:46 PM
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I'm not that knowledgeable but I'll try.
This and the post with the patent number.
I haven't even looked up the patent yet.

Its too ease post away on things.

Don't be too upset if I'm not up to speed with you.
I'm might have to do bits and pieces.

I am not sure of the reputed copy on beams from Tesla, that
might have been made up to throw everyone off from the
flying saucer. Why. Detailed pictures of the beam gun and tower
are pictured in a book that had deliberate dis information on Tesla.
So I think the beam talk is not actually what Tesla was doing.
I know that beams are ineffectual, thats why guided missiles are used.

Tesla was to power flying machines (the UFO) with his towers, which
would get close to irradiate the enemies weapons and armaments and
explode their ammunition.

I believe that from army or armed forces testing that aiming the beam is the
problem. And don't think Tesla was doing any beams except for power
and communications and not as a weapon.
But as everyone says, the beam weapons have been written about,
however not the UFO mechanism or how it works.


ED: Got it, patent 568178
www.rastko.org.yu...

Yes, he tunes the circuit using inductance.

Quite a change from variable capacitance tuning, however this may
be high power as well.

So the large capacitors and remain durable and intact.




[edit on 4/15/2008 by TeslaandLyne]



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 03:34 PM
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Continuing on the theories of Tesla and the car thing.

The Canadian car write up is on the web.
I did read it at one time.
The iron bar antenna is for tuning.
Plus perhaps some energy advantage as a wireless power pickup
antenna.




The device, composed of steel pipe and bar stock (about 10
lbs.), is stimulated with a 15 kv, center-tapped transformer. It
operates in several modes, but in what I call the "hum" mode shows
an input of 35 watts and a secondary activity of 42.6 kw, operating
at or beyond the approximate K-capture voltage on each leg, ca.
7,110 volts (the K-capture voltage for iron), at the standard 60 cps.
The low frequency current goes into the mass of the iron (not a
'skin effect'). The iron seems to be going to manganese and back to
iron, 60 times per second. This idea is based


Above from Science Dictatorship link in my signature.

On to more of Tesla that I do hold to is the gaseous ether.
Light travels like sound in the air.
This because of the mechanical analogues that the scientists
use for discovery of physics.

With a small electrical gas you explain magnetic lines, the
Hydrogen gas to atomic Hydrogen back to hydrogen gas with
a net observed heat liberated of 1000 cal/ gr mole and
Helium giving off 4 times that in response to a spark.
See Papp plasma engine and its on youtube.

A mechanical oscillator composed of an inductor in an air gap
varies the magnetic curcuit to induce larger currents.

These are the types of Tesla devices that hold my interest and
seem better for discovery as well as any UFO model that any
one can come up with.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 07:19 PM
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hey localjoe,

I think you are talking to the wrong crowd here, they are not after overunity


Anyway, this is not the right forum for technical stuff, there's Skunk Works which is more suited...



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