Tesla's key?, page 1

Originally posted by Zykloner
Well your good at protecting urself..

Not protection it's called debate, that was not my intention on this thread, only a result of your generalized attack on pieces of the overall topic.

I did know most of the facts u said. and they dont actually discredit the things i said.

Go away if you are not going to contribute all you've done is shown your own ignorance.

I have theoretic physics as a hobby and scientist by education.

I am happy for you, study harder.

I also feel that repairing the body's energy field can cure radiation sickness is ignorance an a lack of insight into the topic so i still stand by my statment:

Your statement addressed very little of the overall topic, a slight discourse of the actual thread. The thread is about energy transference through unconventional means. Being a theoretic physicist enthuisest, I thought you might pick that up, I am sorry I had to spell it out for you.

*Note, if you are around the scientific field --even being a proposed lab tech-- you must understand that all things are toxic to the human body in large doses correct? Most medicines are a controlled substance that in differing doses could result in toxicity levels too high for the human body to absorb. Therefore, why do you think radiation is used in cancer patients? Isn't it toxic to the body? Yes, ofcourse. It kills all cells, because it is very hard to target only the damaged cells that's reproductive switch is on. This being the case EMFs are produced by all living things, alterations to which could have devastating effects. If a scientist could reverse engineer a device, or nanos to help induce repair and or adjust the EMF of a person back to their personal measured healthy state then their body would be healthy and once again normalized.
I am sure I had a few run ons their, but I am not going to bother to edit, because you are pissing me off and trying to derail my thread.

P.S. I noticed I hadn't discussed the power source. In arrogance, I thought I had mentioned it, for this I apologize for possibly confusing you. Using super magnets in a magnetic pulse generator.

Here is a link so you may understand what I am talking about. What the goal of this thread is to discuss a method of energy transference for such a machine, minus the convential methods.

link: www.eurekalert.org...

-Ignorance is in the eye of the beholden- Einstein

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... i personally think Tesla is a qwasi scientist with no real good theories...

"Nikola Tesla was one of the greatest electrical inventors who ever lived. His technological achievements transformed America from a nation of isolated communities to a country connected by power grids where information was available upon demand. In the 20th century, it was Tesla's technology that united the United States and eventually the world.

Tesla's life was like a movie. It is the story of a brilliant and charismatic immigrant who rose to the height of celebrity with his amazing talent, and then was tragically undone by his own visionary ideas. The cast of characters includes: Thomas Edison, J. Pierpont Morgan, Guglielmo Marconi, George Westinghouse, Mark Twain and many more.

A Serb by origin, his early discovery of the alternating current motor led him to America to seek a venue for his discovery. Here he developed the polyphase AC system of power transmission, which drives every home and industry in the country. He invented the Tesla coil to create high-frequency electricity, and with it neon and florescent lighting, radio transmission, remote control, and hundreds of other devices which are now an essential part of our everyday lives.

Tesla was also a visionary thinker, and in his papers and interviews he anticipated the development of radio and television broadcasting, robotics, computers, faxes, and even the Strategic Defense Initiative.

Tesla's great dream was to find the means to broadcast electrical power without wires in between. But like many geniuses, he was not a practical man. He gave his life to realize his visions, while others made millions with his inventions. In the end, he wound up a penniless and forgotten man.

In his later years, Tesla was regarded as an eccentric scientist. Ridiculed by his contemporaries, his ideas frequently appeared in works of science fiction. He was the inspiration for the mad scientist in Max Fleischer's Superman cartoons.

At the height of World War Two, Tesla claimed that he invented a powerful "death beam" that could destroy attacking aircraft. He proposed a system of beam weapons to protect the borders of the United States and other European nations. When he died, most of Tesla's technical papers mysteriously disappeared, and many have not been found since.

Tesla was so far ahead of his time that many of his ideas are only appearing today. His legacy can been seen in everything from microwave ovens to MX missiles. But more than this, Tesla's life inspires us to believe that anything we can imagine can be accomplished - especially with electricity."

from www.pbs.org...

See also:

en.wikipedia.org...

www.teslasociety.com...

reply to post by OEAOHOO

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Finally someone who has an understanding, do you know of what I have mentioned? Tesla sending electric current without wires over distances, I mean besides Tesla coils? Also, you forgot to mention Tesla was the one who warned Albert Einstein about working on splitting the Adam, Tesla refused to have anything to do with it. The beam weapons you mentioned are now in testing by the USAF, but wholly inefficient compared to what I believe Tesla was capable of.

Yeah.. although Tesla had theorized and most likely formulated the specifics of a "death ray", he seemed to have grave reservations about it's implementation on moral grounds , and never gave the slightest hint as to the principles under which such a device might have operated.

here's a link to the a downloadable pdf of his biography..chapter 15 in particular talks about the "death ray";

www.esnips.com...(ebook---english)-Biography-of-Nikola-Tesla-(1994)


as to the whereabouts of the missing documentation and possible covert weaponisation of his theories ..all I can say is behold the ATS forum!

reply to post by N_15L_S01

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Tesla learned to harness the natural occuring AC electricity produced by the earth's core.
He was killed because he believed it should be free to the citizens of the US. Edison supported the government and provided DC at a cost.
Telsa actually had a "free AC electric generator operation near Niagra Falls,

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It was rumored but not proven that Telsa did a test shot of is coil and shortly after the report of the Tunska event in Russia he dismantled the apparatus. Both events took place within minutes of each other.

just bought the last 2 sets of dvd's from this company

teslatech

tesla interview - flying machine- and comments

notice this part

Fairly close, the aircraft / spacecraft produces heating of persons and objects on the ground; but by hovering over an area at low altitude for maybe 5 or 10 minutes, the machine also produces a column of very cold air down to the ground. As air molecules get into the strong magnetic fields that the machine is transmitting out, the air molecules become polarized and from lines, or strings, of air molecules. The normal movement of the air is stopped, and there is suddenly a lot more room for air molecules in this area, so more air pours in. This expansion and the lack of normal air motion make the area intensely cold

can it have something to do with Cold Energy this is mentioned in a document describing how to split water

This remarkable occurence has the most unusual effect og actually reducing the amount of conventional power needed to drive the circuit, if the output load is increased. So, increasing the load powered by the circuit causes additional energy to flow in from the environment, powering the extra load and as well, helping to drive the original circuit. This seems very strange, but then, "cold" electricity operates in an entirely different way to our familiar conventional electricity, and it has its own set of unfamiliar rules, which are generally the reverse of what we are used to.

from hydrogenerator pdf

although this has no direct relavence, if we are here in this thread to find tesla's key, we have to start digging... or thinking (:




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I am looking for the next Einstein to figure out how Tesla may have transferred energy through the ground without cables, because this is the key to the next leap of technologies/advanced sciences/theory and will get us that much closer to space/time travel.

My name is not Einstein, but I am familiar with Tesla's wireless power transmission. It was actually built, but never used, in Colorado Springs, CO. I don't know if it was actually dismantled; I figure it probably has been by now though.

Tesla used a high-volage power source connected to an antenna shaped like a toroid, covered with small convex structures to maximize surface area. Power for the transmission tower was obtained through mundane means, just like any other power station. He used receivers placed at the reception points to receive the power for homes, businesses, whatever.

The idea was presented to George Westinghouse, who financed the building of a full size unit in CO. Before it was energized, the entire project was scraped by Westinghouse, purportedly due to his concern that power could be stolen by anyone who constructed a receiver (a fairly simple device).

Under US law, a property owner may access any electromagnetic energy that crosses his property. Satellite cable TV manages to get around this because they encrypt the information which they broadcast, and secretly guard the encryption process. There are also laws that make it illegal to sell, distribute, or divulge any information or device that decrypts this data without permission from the originator of the signal. In short, if you can build a receiver that works, you can get satellite cable TV for free, legally. If you tell someone else how to do it, buy plans on how to do it, build receivers to do it, etc., you broke the law.

Tesla's device included no encryption to protect Westinghouse's investment, thusly, Westinghouse pulled the plug, so to speak. Tesla had invested his own savings into the project, and the ensuing financial disaster for him appears to have finally broken his spirit. A complete court transcript is available for the trials that followed concerning Tesla and Westinghouse. I have them in a book, but it is extremely dry reading, and really has nothing to do with his theories.

Sorry to disappoint you, but it's really not that major a development. There was substantial power loss and problems with control in the plans for the transmission tower, and the energy transmitted was pretty powerful... many times more so than power lines. Probably had quite a few then-unknown health risks associated with it. Nikola Tesla had much better ideas in his lifetime.

TheRedneck


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Good Post TheRedNeck.

You are quite correct in saying that it was Westinghouse that crushed Tesla's plans for the wireless transmission of power, however, I do think you may have extrapolated too much into the situation.

After all, wireless electromagnetic energy transmission was not commonly employed by very many people since by the time Tesla had arrived in Colorado Springs in 1899. Even Marconi 'perfected' his system in 1901.

(So well indeed did Marconi perfect his world changing system that Tesla had to sue him for copyright infringement in 1915 due to a suspicious resemblance that Marconi's work bore to Tesla's patent of March 20 1900 for the System of Transmission of Electrical Energy as you can see from the New York Times Article of August 4, 1915 ).

But...

To answer N_15L_S01's question.

Unfortunately I suspect you may have grabbed the wrong end of the stick on this one.

Yes, Tesla did propose an experimentally verifiable method for the transmission of power without wires (which he then calculated and tested at his Colorado Springs lab, to, in my view 'funny as hell' results), but no... It was neither clean or safe.

In effect, it was actually a very simple idea but you should do some reading on the mechanism of action of the 'Tesla Coil' first since the coil forms its basis

... err OK then.

Simply put, a Tesla coil is in effect a resonating high voltage air core transformer that turns a measly few kilovolts into the slightly more entertaining range of millions of volts (with which, if you are so inclined, can do amusingly insane things).

It works by taking a 'Pulsed' AC current in one circuit and via inductance creates a sympathetic current in a secondary circuit.

As the charge within the secondary circuit builds it creates and accompanying electromagnetic field.
When the capacitance of the secondary circuit reaches maximum and can hold no more charge, the current in the secondary stops and the magnetic field within it collapses.

As the magnetic field within the secondary collapses it creates an opposing electromagnetic current equal and opposite to the original current (created by the inductance from the primary circuit), with its own corresponding magnetic field etc etc.

As long as the primary and secondary circuits are in phase and the circuits are correctly tuned the resonance within the secondary will build as will its corresponding charge.

Eventually the capacitance of the air around the secondary circuit will break down as the voltage of the capacitor (the classical toroid described by TheRedNeck) terminating the secondary circuit exceeds the resistance of the air and you will see the classical spark discharge associated with TC's as the atmosphere itself turns to conductive plasma giving all those lovely electrons somewhere to go..

Basically, it's a straight forward feedback circuit entirely dependent on the resonance frequencies of the circuits involved.

Now...

The Air transmission of power.

Dead Easy.

Tesla wanted to replace his lower voltage primary with a big high voltage coil, i.e. www.teslasociety.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">the Wardenclyffe Tower, and use the entirety of the earth as the resonating secondary circuit.

Whenever any individual person on the globe needed electricity all they would need to do was tune any individual circuit to the resonance frequency of the planet and....hey presto.. more power than you could imagine!

....not energy free of environmental requirement... but energy free of personal cost.

After all, how could you possible charge people for such a thing since you couldn't possibly tell who was using it?

Simple wot?

(TBC)


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As you can imagine, Westinghouse was not too impressed with the idea.

And, unfortunately with what we know now, not too safe at all.

What happens if you just happen to have a pacemaker of the wrong harmonic frequency?

What happens if you stretch a length of wire to precisely the wrong length?

What happens if the capacitance of earth itself is exceeded?
oops.


As opposed to the bending of space-time using resonant E-M?.

Well... Complete speculation land here... Well, that one's trickier.
(though, as opposed to a few who thend to think 'cannot compute', I will give the idea a shot)

If one would surmise that it was the case that electricity, magnetism and gravitation were all aspects of the same spectra which could exhibit sympathetic characteristics between themselves then yes... It might be possible.

(after all, Electromagnetic waves according to our own understanding have and electrical component and magnetic component operating at 90 degrees to each other so why should gravitation not have a corresponding component, say skewed or phased at 180 degrees and offset by Planck time or something)

However according to those characteristics you would need the classical 'sympathetic' resonance.

Departure point A , would need to be in resonance tune with arrival point B.

In other words, you would need to build a set of tuneable 'gates' and then deliver one to its destination, keeping its partner at your departure point..

at least that may seem logical if your frame of reference was as limited as our own 3.5 dimensions.

P.s.

References:

If you want to know what other people thought of Tesla and really want to read his original works...The Tesla Restoration Site... Ignore the Cyrillic and Wikipedia references , just scroll down.

If you want to know what kind of people follow in his footsteps: Bill Beaty's Site, one of the internet's real heros...p.p.s. Some of these people are nuts.

If you want to know how he lived...(Amazon Ref): Wizard: The Life and Times of Nikola Tesla

And finally.

If you want to understand from the Mans' own mouth how he worked the transmission of wireless energy (Amazon Ref): Tesla's Colorado Springs Notes

p.p.p.s. Simply since this ones beginning to annoy me.

Event horizons are just that. They are an 'idea' defining a boundary condition... They are NOT 3 dimensional objects and have no 'depth' thus the entire 'infinite energy needed' to create the 'object' rubbish is as absurd as it sounds as there was never any object to start with... Cool?

Absence.

*Link errors...

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reply to post by Absence of Self

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Hey, thank you for you input. It is very enlightening and my refference to Event Horizon-film is the machine within the ship itself. A magnetized sphere and surrounding resonators which rotates at speeds that induce a rip in the fabric of time due to gravitational inertial force opposites, in effect opening a worm hole vortices; though it is just a movie. I do know DOE is more interrested in this tech to create force fields and EMF & Ionic pulse weapons then to power our homes. I am more interrested in the time/space, travel and healing properties of such tech.

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