It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
The experience of being in a lucid dream clearly demonstrates the astonishing fact that the world we see is a construct of our minds. This concept, so elusive when sought in waking life, is the cornerstone of spiritual teachings. It forces us to look beyond everyday experience and ask, "If this is not real, what is?" Lucid dreaming, by so baldly baring a truth that many spend lives seeking, often triggers spiritual questioning in people who try it for far more mundane purposes. Not only does lucid dreaming lead to questioning the nature of reality, but for many it also has been a source of transcendent experience. Exalted and ecstatic states are common in lucid dreams.
Originally posted by pavlovsdog
I'm not sure how far I want to take you into this rabbit hole that you are opening. But you are posed on the brink of diving into one that I dont think you are ready to experience
I'm not trying to be condescending in any way, but from your statements I can only deduce that you don't have a broad reaching spiritual education. This is not in and of itself a bad thing, only a sign of spiritual immaturity.
Lucid dreaming is an attempt to enter a transcendent state.
To be as brief as possibly, I'd like to point you in a particular direction and encourage you to do some research on your own. Consider this quote
The experience of being in a lucid dream clearly demonstrates the astonishing fact that the world we see is a construct of our minds. This concept, so elusive when sought in waking life, is the cornerstone of spiritual teachings. It forces us to look beyond everyday experience and ask, "If this is not real, what is?" Lucid dreaming, by so baldly baring a truth that many spend lives seeking, often triggers spiritual questioning in people who try it for far more mundane purposes. Not only does lucid dreaming lead to questioning the nature of reality, but for many it also has been a source of transcendent experience. Exalted and ecstatic states are common in lucid dreams.
The first statement of that paragraph is not reconcilable with Christian teachings.
As far as desiring to brutally kill something while in a dreamstate.....
A mental health expert might consider this to be an indication of anti social behavior or worse.
A spiritually aware person would tell you that there are consequences for those actions, even if acted on while in a dream state.
Originally posted by Throbber
Anyway, what exactly do you mean when you speak of 'absolute power' - absolute power to do what?
Originally posted by deadline527
Originally posted by pavlovsdog
A mental health expert might consider this to be an indication of anti social behavior or worse.
I am quite social, many friends, nicest person you could probably ever meet
Originally posted by Throbber
reply to post by deadline527
Oh, there is an end, for those who can see it.
Originally posted by pavlovsdog
Originally posted by deadline527
Originally posted by pavlovsdog
A mental health expert might consider this to be an indication of anti social behavior or worse.
I am quite social, many friends, nicest person you could probably ever meet
Yes, most people with 'anti social behavior' are very charismatic. It's a personality disorder, not an indicator that someone lives under a rock.
Originally posted by Throbber
reply to post by deadline527
"Even if you twisted the laws of physics to the most utterly insane reality you can possibly think of, you would merely be touching the very tip of the iceberg - but it is an iceberg, and once you have delved to the murky depths and seen for yourself the truth of what is possible inside that crazy reality that can exist within your own mind, once you have explored the possibilites both mundane and fantastical, you realise that this 'thing' we exist in, this 'reality' is not truly infinite in possibility."
I don't doubt your ability to double check my posts, i'm just lubricating the discussion.
Originally posted by Throbber
reply to post by deadline527
I wouldn't be surprised if someone else had thought that up, truly.
You can go ahead and dream, friend - it's good for you so long as you don't start playing with fire.
Which is what i think you're suggesting.
Originally posted by Throbber
Importantly to mention - The concept of 'sin' is that of 'if you commit sin, you go to hell'.
This is not my understanding of the word 'wrong', at least where dream psychology is concerned.
'wrong' is dependant on the personal experiences within the dream, and how those experiences can effect one's personal psychology both in the dream and out of it - after all, the world we perceive as 'reality' can shape our dreams, so therefore our dreams can shape how we perceive reality.
'Playing with fire' is a term that can be translated as 'Making yourself sick'.
Originally posted by aleon1018
In a way this was similar to possession except I was in someone elses body. So, in that respect, your lucid dream might be very real somewhere else.