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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 12:51 AM by hsur2112
reply to post by BlackProjects



Hey BP. Thanks so much for the heads up. I'm really hoping to make that meeting. This will be a big one. I never did receive a response regarding their spring meeting in Muncie.


reply to post by internos



Internos, you're a gem. Thank you for gettting to these images so quick. This is really starting to get some long overdue attention, and for that I'm glad. The national media coverage on Discovery and History channels, as well as the Mufon meeting in August will help put this into perspective.


reply to post by magic.starlight



And thank you magic for getting those images to us and for your continued interest in these sightings.

Rush


reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 11:46 AM by sequence
Originally posted by hsur2112
reply to
post by LateApexer313



Hey LA. Out of the two members, one was interviewed, but I'm not sure which channel: Disc/NG/Hist. The other member was not contacted and had decided not to do the interview anyway. This is causing stress for alot of people. And that's the frustrating part. I think that the citizens deserve an explanation if it is indeed military. That member, however, did turn over the video to JRitz, so we'll see what comes of it.

Rush :

I feel I must respond to some statements being thrown on this thread; What stress? Has any of you walked a mile in my shoes? You know what frustration is? Try living a nightly basis in my home with unknown objects and craft hovering above and visually from all directions and expecting some real help by reporting. What a joke! I would have done the interview if the media really was concerned. They already had their own agenda when they arrived. All they had to do was spend a couple hours with me observing and I would have greatly babysat with them pointing to areas of interest and it would not take long for a show.



reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 01:12 PM by hsur2112
reply to post by sequence



Hi sequence. If any of my statements have been misleading or inaccurate then I apologize. Of course I have no idea what kind of stress this is putting on people. In a video that was posted earlier (I believe in this thread, not sure) the family that was filming the activity was obviously upset over this. So no, I cannot speak for you or anyone else that lives there. That's the frustrating part for me, being so interested in the activity and not being able to witness it for myself. I am extremely grateful for everyone in that area who has contributed so much to this, yourself included.

And it's not that we believe that this is military, we just don't know what to think.

I'm sorry that you are not getting the help that you need with this, hopefully that will change.

Rush

[edit on 8-6-2008 by hsur2112]


reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 02:38 PM by internos
magic.starlight kindly shared a set of pictures:
here are the enhancements: for each picture the object has been resampled with bicubic interpolation (left) and pixel resized (right) by a factor of 15.

Hera are exif data for the first image of the series:


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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 03:33 PM by sequence
Originally posted by hsur2112
reply to
post by sequence



Hi sequence. If any of my statements have been misleading or inaccurate then I apologize. Of course I have no idea what kind of stress this is putting on people. In a video that was posted earlier (I believe in this thread, not sure) the family that was filming the activity has obviously upset over this. So no, I cannot speak for you or anyone else that lives there. That's the frustrating part for me, being so interested in the activity and not being able to witness it for myself. I am extremely grateful for everyone in that area who has contributed so much to this, yourself included.

And it's not that we believe that this is military, we just don't know what to think.

I'm sorry that you are not getting the help that you need with this, hopefully that will change.

Rush

Excuse my frustration and please do not take this personnally. If only I could go back in time before all this activity intruded into my life. I really want proof to show all, how do you present evidence when all you have is a borrowed camera, no photography skills or internet skills and trying to film at night at a distance where all you can view through finder is a light blob? I am not trying to convince or change any others ideology, I only want help.I am new to forums and was directed here to help me find the answers. I do thank you for getting Jeff Ritzmann to analyze my tapes. I was a little slow sending them in for reasons of my own, but I pray he is able to find something with my bad photography skills and environment. I do not have the high tech savvy equipment or skills to film. I honestly felt MUfon would help. Not one poster who may have the skills of night shooting and the equipment has offered to come sit with me and observe and yet they want to show concern, and that concern is when info is not brought forth in their idea of a timely fashion to scrutinize and then the innuendo sets in. l am not directing this frustration on to the posters on this thread, this is just the normal process of forums. It is my own fault and ignorance for believing I can find help and answers with like minded individuals on a forum. Where do you turn for help when you have utilized all known available resourses and still these known organizations shows no respect or regard to the activity that is still occurring?


reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 06:34 PM by BlackProjects
reply to post by sequence



Some of the most experienced members of ATS are looking at the pictures..None have offered a conventional explanation! More eyes- more cameras are looking..this is progress.

I'd love to see 3d Gen Night Vision view of this phenomenon. I'd also like to analyze RF spectrum at the time of a close encounter...I don't have equipment for those. The thing that amazed me was the discontinuity of flight path..I'd see a light it would vanish for a second or two then reappear another location in the sky maybe along with others. Looking at the images recently posted makes it hard to apply conventional explanations.


reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 07:30 PM by sequence
reply to post by BlackProjects


My brother has found a guy that will let me use his camera. It is a Pentax, K 3000 or IC 3000, can't read, with a 500 mm F8.0 preset lens. Will I be able to have pictures analysed after developement and what do I need to do in order to send my pictures online. Do I get them put on CD, then what? Any help will greatly be appreciated.

Forgot to add: Will I be able to use in the dark? Do I just focus as good as possible and shoot? This is not a digital camera, it looks old.

[edit on 8-6-2008 by sequence]


reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 07:47 PM by hsur2112
reply to post by sequence



Hi sequence. I wish I could help, but know very little about cameras. I'll bet if you shoot Jeff an email he could help (if you haven't done so already).

Rush


reply posted on 9-6-2008 @ 08:57 AM by sequence
reply to post by RootMean


RootMean
I was ignorant to how MUfon and other organizations work.I normally would never ask for help or report what I have and still observe just from the generation I was raised in. I was raised to never volunteer anything and never discuss UFO sightings unless you want to be locked up in a mental health facility for observation. This has occurred to victims, if you wish to seek and read for yourself.I was informed to report my sightings to MUfon because they have been around for years and would come to my house and investigate. Apparently, the person who advised me had no knowledge how MUfon works either. If I had known their procedures, I would not have been so upset.Honestly, a part of my inner being would love the results to be scientifically explained after reading some of the horror stories related to this subject.I would be able to get some sleep. My main goal contacting MUfon was to get confirmation of what I am seeing, and like I stated previously, I thought they would come to my house and film with their cameras.My tape that was released to their FI and sent in to headquarters could not be analysed. If you have read any of my post on this thread, you will see my camera is not that old.Why couldn't they analyse my tape with all the equipment you would expect this organization to have? I had to find help within this thread and thankfully, received it. I don't have the correct equipment to do this on my own. I want all people to know the truth of what is happening around here. When I reported, they were informed that this is a nightly observance, so common sense tells me if an organization that is stated to be a scientific study of UFO would naturally and normally want to see for themselves. This is not happening for my experience. Finally,now I know how it works. My ignorance for relying on others to do what I need to do for self is now underway. My only concern now is, how to go forward from here with footage I may have captured and will capture on film. If you know of any data or evidence, MUfon has definately confirmed, please direct me. I am not finding it. If they have been collecting all the film, photo's and data from all years, where is their final reports of their findings after it is sent in to headquarters? Where is their scientific study? Is the confirmed studied reports placed in some obscure paper unseen by majority of the public? Masses of people would not feel like or be treated like idiots and crazy when reporting or asking for help if Mufon, a scientific study organization has aided in providing proof for all people.If I am wrong in my thinking, I will apologize and turn over any or future film for them to study.As for my stress, what I am experiencing, may not be what you are or have experienced or want to.Have they harmed me? NO. Have they placed my future health at risk by being within close proximity? I have no knowledge of the future health risk.Was there a spiritual connection while within close proximity? To some degree, yes. Do I now fear the unknown? A part of me yes, but getting immune.My biggest fear is filming outside alone to get coverage in the dark with no safety net. In my home at night, lots of praying for protection and to take the fear and negativity away from my being while I sleep.I will not place UFO in a box. I don't know what I'm observing and I'm normally a logical person. I need logical reasoning when I see something unexplained and will study it to death for answers. You are more than welcome to come sit with me or by yourself and film your heart out. You will not be disappointed. You will have a variety of objects to choose from. Just send me a U2U when you have time to film.


reply posted on 9-6-2008 @ 09:00 AM by sequence
reply to post by BlackProjects


Thanks BlackProjects, this link will help me. I just need to get tripod now.The heavy lens is hard to stabilize while viewing through small viewfinder. I need to do lots of studying.


reply posted on 9-6-2008 @ 09:17 AM by sequence
reply to post by hsur2112


I know he will help me but I feel guilty utilizing his time and expertise.He has stated and offered to extend his knowledge and expertise to help me any time of the day or night if needed.I don't want to be a burden. He is devoting free time for me now and I appreciate all that he is doing for me. He is a blessing in my life at this moment and I don't want to jeopardize this priviledge. I will study today. Man, I realized that I am getting old by accident. Why didn't I take a heartfelt interest in photography when younger.
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