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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 12:51 AM by hsur2112
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Hey BP. Thanks so much for the heads up. I'm really hoping to make that meeting. This will be a big one. I never did receive a response regarding
their spring meeting in Muncie.
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Internos, you're a gem. Thank you for gettting to these images so quick. This is really starting to get some long overdue attention, and for that
I'm glad. The national media coverage on Discovery and History channels, as well as the Mufon meeting in August will help put this into
perspective.
reply to post by magic.starlight
And thank you magic for getting those images to us and for your continued interest in these sightings.
Rush
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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 06:51 AM by BlackProjects
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I second the toast from hsur2112 to Internos and magic.starlight on the recent photos/enhancements..Sounds like more may be coming.
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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 11:46 AM by sequence
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Originally posted by hsur2112
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Hey LA. Out of the two members, one was interviewed, but I'm not sure which channel: Disc/NG/Hist. The other member was not contacted and had decided
not to do the interview anyway. This is causing stress for alot of people. And that's the frustrating part. I think that the citizens deserve an
explanation if it is indeed military. That member, however, did turn over the video to JRitz, so we'll see what comes of it.
Rush :
I feel I must respond to some statements being thrown on this thread; What stress? Has any of you walked a mile in my shoes? You know what frustration
is? Try living a nightly basis in my home with unknown objects and craft hovering above and visually from all directions and expecting some real help
by reporting. What a joke! I would have done the interview if the media really was concerned. They already had their own agenda when they arrived. All
they had to do was spend a couple hours with me observing and I would have greatly babysat with them pointing to areas of interest and it would not
take long for a show.
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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 12:05 PM by sequence
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Originally posted by BlackProjects
For all those "Hoosiers" out there observing..I just heard Indiana MUFON is meeting >>
Just booked the room at the South Branch Library on Center Road for Saturday, August 16th from 12 noon to 5:00 PM. Coffee will be provided.
I'm sure the Kokomo area sitings will be discussed..
Check Indiana MUFON site for more info
What do you think will be accomplished? More photo's and film as well as data to collect, and collect for "Whom"? Maybe I'm missing something. I
actually believed and was naive to believe that reporting my sightings that I would receive help. I actually expected them to show up with equipment
to help me by observing with me, what I,as well as others have been observing. As of date, not one MUfon FI has taken any regard to come over to my
house and sit and watch. How many years have they been a scientific organization? Can someone please point out to me and thousand others where we can
find any valuable evidence provided by MUfon that can benefit our cause, I'm not locating it.
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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 12:24 PM by sequence
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Hey LA. Already done. I thought that since Jeff is helping with the video (and I'm not 100% sure that sequence has sent that on, I'll check) but
that Internos may be able to look at the pics. I'm waiting for a reply.
Originally posted by Homeles
wonder if the activity is linked to the sightings?
they know something we dont if it is?
dunno, dont live in that area.
just wondering.
peace
Hi Homeles and thanks for the link, I'm in Indy and haven't heard this. Too much time ats-ing and not enough time watching the news.
It's highly possible that they know something that we don't, I'm sure that is the case. However, I can't say one way or another if these are
related. The northern Indiana sightings have been going on for years, primarily in the spring. This may account for some new sightings though. Thanks
again for the info, welcome to ATS.
Rush
I have just sent my tapes to Jeff for reasons known only to Jeff and I, 3 tapes to be exact. I am positive he will be able to help me find
explanations to what I'm observing even with my bad photgraphy skills. I pray he can work with what I have sent him. If you want to believe what I
and others are experiencing is contributed to the military, believe what you will.
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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 12:30 PM by sequence
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Originally posted by magic.starlight
Hi Interno,
That was a great job you did with my pictures. Would you care to send me your email address so I can send you a few more. magic.starlight@yahoo.com
Thanks
Hey Magic,
Interno has done a great job with your photo's. I hope Jeff can do the same for me. I hope tonight we can get more great unexplained shots with our
stakeout. Jared, Magic and I as well as others will be at my house shooting tonight, and if interested, give me a call.
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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 01:12 PM by hsur2112
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Hi sequence. If any of my statements have been misleading or inaccurate then I apologize. Of course I have no idea what kind of stress this is putting
on people. In a video that was posted earlier (I believe in this thread, not sure) the family that was filming the activity was obviously upset over
this. So no, I cannot speak for you or anyone else that lives there. That's the frustrating part for me, being so interested in the activity and not
being able to witness it for myself. I am extremely grateful for everyone in that area who has contributed so much to this, yourself included.
And it's not that we believe that this is military, we just don't know what to think.
I'm sorry that you are not getting the help that you need with this, hopefully that will change.
Rush
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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 01:38 PM by NGC2736
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Hello all. This thread is certainly interesting, just for the sheer number of sightings and photos from a single geographical area, if nothing
else.
I have tried to keep up with progress here, but it's by fits and starts, as I'm staying pretty busy. I've spoken with my daughter who lives in
northern Indiana, but she hasn't seen anything of interest. ( With two sons that are under four years, she sees some UFOs, but those are ones being
flung around the kitchen at supper time.  )
As a side note; damn but I'm proud of such a long thread that has been so very civil and respectful. It just goes to prove that it can be done. And
there is a lot more information flowing when civility is the norm. Thank you all.
[Edit because I can't "speel" today.]
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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 02:05 PM by BlackProjects
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NGC,
Thanks for the compliment..yes this thread has shown much teamwork and dedication to finding the truth. Several people have spent long hours and
observed unsettling things. I think all of us "Hoosiers" have approached this mystery with an open mind and a lot of patience. I have said it
before that I believe the best is yet to come!
Maybe MUFON will bring something to the table - hang in there all.
Keep up good work,
BP
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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 02:38 PM by internos
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magic.starlight kindly shared a set of pictures:
here are the enhancements: for each picture the object has been resampled with bicubic interpolation (left) and pixel resized (right) by a factor of
15.
Hera are exif data for the first image of the series:
Basic Image Information
Camera: Sony DSC-W80
Lens: 5.8 mm
(Max aperture f/2.8)
Exposure: Auto exposure, Not Defined, 2 sec, f/2.8, ISO 250
Flash: On, Return not detected
Date: April 26, 2008 9:47:14PM (timezone not specified)
Color Space sRGB
Components Configuration YCbCr
Compressed Bits Per Pixel 4
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Contrast Normal
Create Date 2008:04:26 21:47:14
1 month, 11 days, 14 hours, 18 minutes, 51 seconds ago
Custom Rendered Normal
Date/Time Original 2008:04:26 21:47:14
1 month, 11 days, 14 hours, 18 minutes, 51 seconds ago
Exif Image Size 640 × 480
Exif Version 0221
Exposure Compensation 0
Exposure Mode Auto
Exposure Program Not Defined
Exposure Time 2
F Number 2.8
File Source Digital Camera
Flash On, Return not detected
Flashpix Version 0100
Focal Length 5.8 mm
ISO 250
Image Description
Light Source Unknown
Make SONY
Max Aperture Value 2.8
Metering Mode Multi-segment
Camera Model Name DSC-W80
Modify Date 2008:04:26 21:47:14
1 month, 11 days, 14 hours, 18 minutes, 51 seconds ago
Orientation Horizontal (normal)
Print Image Matching (28 bytes binary data)
Resolution 72 pixels/inch
Saturation Normal
Scene Capture Type Night
Scene Type Directly photographed
Sharpness Normal
Thumbnail Length 3,311
White Balance Auto
Y Cb Cr Positioning Co-sited
JFIF
JFIF Version 1.1
Resolution 72 pixels/inch
File — basic information derived from the file
Bits Per Sample 8
Color Components 3
Encoding Process Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Exif Byte Order Little-endian (Intel, II)
File Type JPEG
Image Size 640 × 480
MIME Type image/jpeg
Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling YCbCr4:2:0 (2 2)
Composite
Aperture 2.8
Focal Length 5.8 mm
Light Value 0.6
Shutter Speed 2
Thumbnail Image (3,311 bytes binary data)
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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 03:33 PM by sequence
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Originally posted by hsur2112
reply to post by sequence
Hi sequence. If any of my statements have been misleading or inaccurate then I apologize. Of course I have no idea what kind of stress this is putting
on people. In a video that was posted earlier (I believe in this thread, not sure) the family that was filming the activity has obviously upset over
this. So no, I cannot speak for you or anyone else that lives there. That's the frustrating part for me, being so interested in the activity and not
being able to witness it for myself. I am extremely grateful for everyone in that area who has contributed so much to this, yourself included.
And it's not that we believe that this is military, we just don't know what to think.
I'm sorry that you are not getting the help that you need with this, hopefully that will change.
Rush
Excuse my frustration and please do not take this personnally. If only I could go back in time before all this activity intruded into my life. I
really want proof to show all, how do you present evidence when all you have is a borrowed camera, no photography skills or internet skills and trying
to film at night at a distance where all you can view through finder is a light blob? I am not trying to convince or change any others ideology, I
only want help.I am new to forums and was directed here to help me find the answers. I do thank you for getting Jeff Ritzmann to analyze my tapes. I
was a little slow sending them in for reasons of my own, but I pray he is able to find something with my bad photography skills and environment. I do
not have the high tech savvy equipment or skills to film. I honestly felt MUfon would help. Not one poster who may have the skills of night shooting
and the equipment has offered to come sit with me and observe and yet they want to show concern, and that concern is when info is not brought forth in
their idea of a timely fashion to scrutinize and then the innuendo sets in. l am not directing this frustration on to the posters on this thread, this
is just the normal process of forums. It is my own fault and ignorance for believing I can find help and answers with like minded individuals on a
forum. Where do you turn for help when you have utilized all known available resourses and still these known organizations shows no respect or regard
to the activity that is still occurring?
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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 06:34 PM by BlackProjects
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Some of the most experienced members of ATS are looking at the pictures..None have offered a conventional explanation! More eyes- more cameras are
looking..this is progress.
I'd love to see 3d Gen Night Vision view of this phenomenon. I'd also like to analyze RF spectrum at the time of a close encounter...I don't have
equipment for those. The thing that amazed me was the discontinuity of flight path..I'd see a light it would vanish for a second or two then
reappear another location in the sky maybe along with others. Looking at the images recently posted makes it hard to apply conventional explanations.
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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 07:30 PM by sequence
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My brother has found a guy that will let me use his camera. It is a Pentax, K 3000 or IC 3000, can't read, with a 500 mm F8.0 preset lens. Will I be
able to have pictures analysed after developement and what do I need to do in order to send my pictures online. Do I get them put on CD, then what?
Any help will greatly be appreciated.
Forgot to add: Will I be able to use in the dark? Do I just focus as good as possible and shoot? This is not a digital camera, it looks old.
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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 07:47 PM by hsur2112
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Hi sequence. I wish I could help, but know very little about cameras. I'll bet if you shoot Jeff an email he could help (if you haven't done so
already).
Rush
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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 07:55 PM by BlackProjects
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Sequence,
Somehow they must scan them into a Jpeg or similar format to put on CD. Hopefully, they are somewhere like 3 Mpixel or better. Not sure of the size
but at that point you can email them.
BP
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reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 07:59 PM by BlackProjects
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Sequence,
I know nothing of night time photography.. But many tip sections such as this one
mkaz.com...
are available on the internet. It says tripod is important also exposure time...
BP
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reply posted on 9-6-2008 @ 12:37 AM by RootMean
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Sequence, what is the stressful part? I've seen these lots and my only frustration is not seeing them enough. No telling how many hours I've
spent to get 60 seconds total of video. It takes a lot of sightings to add up. What was it you thought MUFON was going to do? I understand they
haven't come out, but they aren't paid and there are dozens of these sightings all over the state. Maybe there's something I'm missing...
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reply posted on 9-6-2008 @ 08:57 AM by sequence
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RootMean
I was ignorant to how MUfon and other organizations work.I normally would never ask for help or report what I have and still observe just from the
generation I was raised in. I was raised to never volunteer anything and never discuss UFO sightings unless you want to be locked up in a mental
health facility for observation. This has occurred to victims, if you wish to seek and read for yourself.I was informed to report my sightings to
MUfon because they have been around for years and would come to my house and investigate. Apparently, the person who advised me had no knowledge how
MUfon works either. If I had known their procedures, I would not have been so upset.Honestly, a part of my inner being would love the results to be
scientifically explained after reading some of the horror stories related to this subject.I would be able to get some sleep. My main goal contacting
MUfon was to get confirmation of what I am seeing, and like I stated previously, I thought they would come to my house and film with their cameras.My
tape that was released to their FI and sent in to headquarters could not be analysed. If you have read any of my post on this thread, you will see my
camera is not that old.Why couldn't they analyse my tape with all the equipment you would expect this organization to have? I had to find help within
this thread and thankfully, received it. I don't have the correct equipment to do this on my own. I want all people to know the truth of what is
happening around here. When I reported, they were informed that this is a nightly observance, so common sense tells me if an organization that is
stated to be a scientific study of UFO would naturally and normally want to see for themselves. This is not happening for my experience. Finally,now I
know how it works. My ignorance for relying on others to do what I need to do for self is now underway. My only concern now is, how to go forward from
here with footage I may have captured and will capture on film. If you know of any data or evidence, MUfon has definately confirmed, please direct me.
I am not finding it. If they have been collecting all the film, photo's and data from all years, where is their final reports of their findings after
it is sent in to headquarters? Where is their scientific study? Is the confirmed studied reports placed in some obscure paper unseen by majority of
the public? Masses of people would not feel like or be treated like idiots and crazy when reporting or asking for help if Mufon, a scientific study
organization has aided in providing proof for all people.If I am wrong in my thinking, I will apologize and turn over any or future film for them to
study.As for my stress, what I am experiencing, may not be what you are or have experienced or want to.Have they harmed me? NO. Have they placed my
future health at risk by being within close proximity? I have no knowledge of the future health risk.Was there a spiritual connection while within
close proximity? To some degree, yes. Do I now fear the unknown? A part of me yes, but getting immune.My biggest fear is filming outside alone to get
coverage in the dark with no safety net. In my home at night, lots of praying for protection and to take the fear and negativity away from my being
while I sleep.I will not place UFO in a box. I don't know what I'm observing and I'm normally a logical person. I need logical reasoning when I see
something unexplained and will study it to death for answers. You are more than welcome to come sit with me or by yourself and film your heart out.
You will not be disappointed. You will have a variety of objects to choose from. Just send me a U2U when you have time to film.
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reply posted on 9-6-2008 @ 09:00 AM by sequence
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Thanks BlackProjects, this link will help me. I just need to get tripod now.The heavy lens is hard to stabilize while viewing through small
viewfinder. I need to do lots of studying.
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reply posted on 9-6-2008 @ 09:17 AM by sequence
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I know he will help me but I feel guilty utilizing his time and expertise.He has stated and offered to extend his knowledge and expertise to help me
any time of the day or night if needed.I don't want to be a burden. He is devoting free time for me now and I appreciate all that he is doing for me.
He is a blessing in my life at this moment and I don't want to jeopardize this priviledge. I will study today. Man, I realized that I am getting old
by accident. Why didn't I take a heartfelt interest in photography when younger.
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