posted on Apr, 21 2008 @ 09:13 PM
The XM8 was dropped because the plastic its made of starts to melt after about
a hundered or so rounds are put through it. That was I believe nearly four years ago now. The whole reason the HK416/17 came out was because they had
invested so heavily in the XM8 and when that failed they had to have something to offer to the US gvt that improved on the Stoner or HK would be
looking at the biggest loss in its history.
In the past 12 months the Pentagon held an open competition between manufacturers to test and compare reliability after the complaints from our
soldiers in the sand about how badly and often the ARs jammed from at times just a few grains of sand. It became such an issue that congress started
complaining about it and forced the Pentagons hand.
There were four competitors...
1.Standard issue M4A1
To everyones suprise it finished in this order..
1st place:HKXM8(!)...with barely any jams whatsoever
Roughly 1,000 rounds were put through each gun and the event was purposely held in the desert somewhere(location was classified I think)and none of
the rifles were allowed to be cleaned.
Obviously HKs been working on the XM8 in hopes that they can fix what made it fail the last time and apparently they did something right as the
plastics its made of didnt soften up and begin to melt this time. Also the reasons it actually jammed was according to HK was the cheap standard issue
Of course the Pentagon is more concerned about contractual obligations with Colt than the lives of our soldiers. For example, the Pentagon DID issue
the HK416 to a limited number of troops. The troops loved it and the gun performed brilliantly in the field. Then someone in the Pentagon decided to
implement an order for nearly all the troops to turn them back in giving no reason as to why. Only a couple spec ops units were allowed to keep their
The troops were furious and the turn-in order has caused quite the s-storm. They turned them back in as ordered but they let everyone know they werent
happy about at all in some pretty unpleasant terms.
As of now the debate is still very much alive in congress and Pentagon officals have had to explain why they keep issuing the same obsolete and
unreliable operating system when far better alternatives have long been available directly to congress in person. Its on YouTube somewhere..
Of course the Pentagon line is and has been "I dont know what youre talking about its the best assault rifle in the world!" and my favorite "..but
love it!" and lastly "what complaints?"
The contract with Colt is up in 2010. It is a NO BID contract. Meaning no matter what happens, no matter how many have died cause their rifles jam
from barely anything getting into it at all to having the horrendus gas impingement system overheat after not even a full clip and fail-so hot if you
touch the breech youll burn your finger--, the Pentagon is legaly not allowed to take bids to replace it until the contract is up in 2010.
The XM8 will likely make another run for it but has an awful long way to go to
beat the new Magpul MASADA.
Itll be interesting and sadly most likely disappointing when and why the Pentagon makes its choice...
Hope this clears things up a bit....the XM8 may be cancelled but is far from dead.