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Topic started on 9-4-2008 @ 02:38 PM by biggie smalls

D.C. police set to monitor 5,000 cameras


www.washingtontimes.com
D.C. officials are giving police access to more than 5,000 closed-circuit TV cameras citywide that monitor traffic, schools and public housing — a move that will give the District one of the largest surveillance networks in the country.

"The primary benefit of what we're doing is for public health and safety," said Darrell Darnell, director of the city's Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency, who announced the initiative along with Mayor Adrian M. Fenty yesterday.
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[edit on 4/9/2008 by biggie smalls]


reply posted on 9-4-2008 @ 02:38 PM by biggie smalls
I'm glad to see our politicians care about taking care of us lowly citizens. We're not capable of looking after ourselves so we need big brother to watch our every move.

Thanks for keeping an eye on me. I feel much safer now.

Did you notice the "benefit" of these cameras is for public health and safety? Does that make any sense?

How does it improve the public's health?

As for the public safety, well I guess its a matter of how you define "safe." I don't feel safer when cameras watch my every move, regardless if I was a criminal or not. This is a surveillance police state in the works, to keep everyone safe from themselves.

Not only will the streets be monitored, but schools and public housing as well. Keep everyone safer by watching, thank you big brother.

The cameras clearly will not deter crime, they will just document abuses. That doesn't sound like much help to me.

But the announcement left some civil liberties advocates and a key D.C. Council member concerned.

"We've been sort of sounding the alarm on this stuff for a long time, saying these little pieces — they grow," said Art Spitzer, legal director for the American Civil Liberties Union of the National Capital Area. "You put a camera here, it's not so bad, you put a camera there, it's not so bad. But then it turns out all the sudden, we find out there are 5,200 cameras. That's a big number."


Wow, 5200 cameras in one city. That sounds like a surveillance society to me.

I guess Ron Paul wasn't so far off now was he?

The Video Interoperability for Public Safety (VIPS) program will consolidate the more than 5,200 cameras operated by D.C. agencies — including D.C. Public Schools and the D.C. Housing Authority — into one network managed by the city's Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency.


And we all know how well FEMA and DHS deals with tragedy. How well did they manage Hurricane Katrina? That was a disaster that no one could have foreseen, except the Federal Emergency Management Agency whose job it is to foresee such events (well I could have told the residents of New Orleans that building a city under sea level or at sea level is a terrible idea, but that's another story).

Consolidate all the cameras under 2 defunct agencies, great idea. That sure will stop crime...


BIG BROTHER

D.C. officials yesterday said they plan to link more than 5,000 cameras to form a surveillance network to help combat crime and terrorism. The following city agencies have cameras:

D.C. Housing Authority: 720

D.C. Public Schools: 3,452

Department of Parks and Recreation: 181

Department of Transportation: 131

Metropolitan Police Department: 92

Department of Corrections: 218

Office of Property Management/Protective Services Division: 468

D.C. Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency: 4

TOTAL: 5,266


Yay for DC tyranny! Hip hip hooray for fascism!

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reply posted on 9-4-2008 @ 03:03 PM by biggie smalls
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Don't you just love a nice healthy serving of a surveillance society in the morning?

I sure do enjoy my cameras and RFID chips and whatever else the government decides is in store to "keep us safe from ourselves."

What a joke. Who really are we being protected from? The boogey man? Those evil muslim terrorists over there or the evil gang bangers on the street or the students going "postal" in schools?

This is a societal problem and no amount of surveillance is going to solve anything.

Just another band-aid to cover up a sick world.

"The more things change, the more they stay the same."



reply posted on 9-4-2008 @ 05:40 PM by biggie smalls
reply to post by Maxmars



You know I would prefer to have this kind of technology not be used at all, but heck, if its going to be used anyway I'd like to see what goes on too.

If the police have access to the data, why can't everyone else?

Actually, the title of the thread really is a misnomer. The DHS and FEMA in DC will be watching the cameras, but they're more or less the same thing.

Columbia is a District and people do live there. They receive tax dollars from the residents and I imagine part of the federal budget is slated to fund DC maintenance of roads and what not. That's probably how they pay for it.


reply posted on 10-4-2008 @ 02:07 PM by Maxmars
reply to post by The_Future_LT



I suspect that since processing power increased and the availability of the next generation internet transmission lines is in place - this is the perfect 'opportunity' for some 'service' to be established using the latest face-typing algorithms on these images. Once each image can be mathematically 'typed' each country or organization can engage the service the generate the coding which can them be posted against a databases of faces and cross-reference data.

Having done that they can run a search for your 'facial image' popping up anywhere and everywhere any digital image has been captured. Soon someone will be able to type into a database and find out just where you have ever been 'imaged' within the range of their record-keeping.

Oh yeah, I trust them with that! [sarcasm off]

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