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posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 11:24 PM
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reply to post by Achilles 13
 


Ok, I'm not going to get into a drawn out argument with you, but here goes. If that is your oppinion you have the right to it. I'm not going to beat a "dead horse." There are things that I can see eye to eye with you on is there an elite that would like to control all of us, do they hide, do they network? Yes, I'm not stupid. Is it the Freemasons? No. Is it the Illuminati? Couldn't say for sure, I beleive they are still around. Weishaupt said (I'm paraphrasing) "It doesn't matter what name we are called, as long as the work continues." I think that they are still at work under a new guise, mabe hiding within the Freemasons but that doesnt make the Freemasons bad it's like having a bad cop in your ranks. Maybe hiding in the Bilderberger's.

The point is that some of you guys make accusations without any real solid facts to back them, you have never laid eyes on the rituals of any SS, it's all conjecture on your part. You say that people do not understand the "history" so where's your history that you base this on. Alex Jones, David Icke? What research have "YOU"done? I have done alot, so if I talk about something I usually have something to back it with not just empty words or a few famous people and Presidents. And if I can't remember or I am proven wrong I will retract and adjust my thought and position on a matter. That's the differance between logic and blind convictions. As for your little poke about "history" it's always been my favorite subject and I can't get enough of it. So please do tell...

In regard to your staement about Democracy, I hope that you are not implying that it is a desireable form of government. If so I'll tell you that the idea of Democracy is what the elites want you to buy into. See Bush and the rest of the elites can speard "Democracy" all over the world if the world is stupid enough to allow it. As long as they keep it out of America. America is a Republic where we all have rights by law that can not be taken away. In a Democracy the majority rules, ie. 51% can enslave 49% of the population. It's like two wolves and a chicken voting about what's for dinner. What do think will be the main course? Get it? At best you could call the USA a Democratic Republic. You see in that sort of Government the chicken can go to a higher authority and plee it's case, if it could get away.

I know I'm being a bit of a smarty but you get my point. So you go ahead and build your Democracy and people like myself and others who "know" their history will remember how the Greek "elite" subjugated the people with Democracy. Take a good look at how Spartan government really worked. So it will be up to those who truely know what "Democracy" is to keep the uninformed like yourself from bringing it here. Like I said, Constitutional Republic/Democratic Republic, but without that "Republic" it's subjugation all over agian and the ignorance of the people is the elite's best tool.

By the way Mr. Jones and others do make some good points, but you talk about being a sheep. Don't buy into what anyone says wholesale!!! Say what you like, I'm done. I know I just waisted my time....

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[edit on 14-4-2008 by lazy1981]




posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 09:01 AM
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Like a great man, once says...

If you are dishonestly mislead into the dark, and you don't know
by whom, start stepping hard on the floor around you, trying to find feet..!

If you succeed, to crunch a feet or even a toe
you will hear them react negatively and frustrated..!

Then, watch and ear carefully, it will give you precious
clues on who they are.......and where is daylight of truth..!

Sorry brothers..!

Futur is more important then brotherhood..!


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posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Achilles 13


Sorry brothers..!

Futur is more important then brotherhood..!




Without brotherhood, there *is* no future.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 02:52 PM
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I am assuming...,

that you meant that there is no futur without the '' UNIVERSAL
BROTHERHOOD OF MEN...RIGHT..! LIVING IN A FREE AND PEACEFUL
WORLD... RIGHT..! ''
you didn't have in mind any secret society's
brotherhood or even any specific organisation brotherhood, we already
knowns, right..!

If this was, what you meant, i agree with you 100%..!


the world need, that kind of brotherhood, to fight, all together, against
powerful, imperialistic, world secret agenda... and to one day, built...
a '' REAL '' democracy..! a real, free world.


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posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 03:58 PM
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i was really not sure, about the choice of colors i chosed,
i think it looks better that way, and it is easier, to understand..!





posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 04:03 PM
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reply to post by Achilles 13
 


What does the Pope, Julius Caesar and an unfinished pyramid have in common?

No this is not a intro to a joke, its a serious question, of which, I expect a serious answer.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Achilles 13
 

What does the Pope, Julius Caesar and an unfinished pyramid have in common?


I sincerely thank you very much, M. Rockpuck...

You asked the '' exact question '', i want you all... to ask your self..!
A question you will have to search, think and find by your self..!

All pieces of the world secret structure and world secret agenda
are around, for you to find it and to put it together.

Don't ask, what the World can do for you...
Ask what you... can do for the world..!

Thank You..!
Achilles 13




[edit on 15-4-2008 by Achilles 13]



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 05:20 PM
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You asked the '' exact question '', i want you all... to ask your self..!
A question you will have to search, think and find by your self


....ok... why are people on ATS all the same, I swear.. if you don't tell me, I guess I will continue to meander around in ignorance..




All pieces of the world secret structure and world secret agenda
are around, for you to find it and to put it together.


I translate this to mean "I don't understand anything so I grouped it all together and it makes sense to me!"

oh and..


.....!



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by Achilles 13

Like a great man, once says...

If you are dishonestly mislead into the dark, and you don't know
by whom, start stepping hard on the floor around you, trying to find feet..!

If you succeed, to crunch a feet or even a toe
you will hear them react negatively and frustrated..!

Then, watch and ear carefully, it will give you precious
clues on who they are.......and where is daylight of truth..!

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Hmmmmmmm..!


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posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by Achilles 13

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Achilles 13
 

What does the Pope, Julius Caesar and an unfinished pyramid have in common?


I sincerely thank you very much, M. Rockpuck...


You asked the '' exact question '', i wanted you all... to ask your self..!
A question you will have to search, think and find by your self..!

All pieces of the world secret structure and world secret agenda
are around, for you to find it and to put it together.

Don't ask, what the World can do for you...
Ask what you... can do for the world..!

Thank You..!
Achilles 13




So, for the last time,

please, search, think and find out by your self..!

'' What does the Pope, Julius Caesar and an unfinished pyramid have in common? ''


Achilles 13



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 06:54 PM
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I would say the most powerful and most secret society in the world is the United States Military Industrial Complex.

USMIC. They get their marching orders from the Council of 13. So I have heard.


But here is my final answer:





[edit on 15-4-2008 by dk3000]



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Achilles 13
 


What does the Pope, Julius Caesar and an unfinished pyramid have in common?


Excuse me Rock, but that is not Julius Caesar.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 08:07 PM
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Ohhhhhhhh what EEVVVERRRR

Augustus. Excuse my ignorance, I was one generation of Caesars off..

(ha, watch me be wrong on that to.. Roman politics was never a focal of my studies..)



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 08:13 PM
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Your're right and your seem to like this Roman Emperor a lot.
Tell me AugustusMasonicus are you a freemason...

We all know who is it exacly but it is what he represent that is important
and that is the Old Roman Empire.


So, clearly...

what does the Vatican, the Old Roman Empire and an unfinished pyramid
have in common?

Achilles 13



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 08:15 PM
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the Vatican, the Old Roman Empire and an unfinished pyramid


Nothing?

I think I am done with you.. unlike so many CT'ers you got boring quick.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by Achilles 13
Your're right and your seem to like this Roman Emperor a lot.
Tell me AugustusMasonicus are you a freemason...


I am a student of history with a particualar affinity for Roman history. I would have thought that the obvious second part of my screen-name would have answered your other question, but if not, yes I am.


We all know who is it exacly but it is what he represent that is important
and that is the Old Roman Empire.


Or more specifically, the Principate.


So, clearly...

what does the Vatican, the Old Roman Empire and an unfinished pyramid
have in common?


Nothing?



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by Achilles 13

Like a great man, once says...

If you are dishonestly mislead into the dark, and you don't know
by whom, start stepping hard on the floor around you, trying to find feet..!

If you succeed, to crunch a feet or even a toe
you will hear them react negatively and frustrated..!

Then, watch and ear carefully, it will give you precious
clues on who they are.......and where is daylight of truth..!

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Hmmmmmmm..!
are both Freemason...
you seems to react negatively and frustrated


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posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 08:30 PM
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id say they are all symbols of control

Roman empire - perfectly controlled until its collapse

Vatican - Controls Christianity, which controls the masses

Unfinished Pyramid - pyramid is the symbol of the best way to structure a society, the many stay at the bottom and the few at the top, (i also think that the pyramid being unfinished means that "they" have not yet taken over, but they soon will)



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

So, clearly...

what does the Vatican, the Old Roman Empire and an unfinished pyramid
have in common?


Nothing?

They're all pointy!



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by tankthinker
id say they are all symbols of control

Roman empire - perfectly controlled until its collapse


I disagree strongly. The Roman Empire was far from perfectly controlled until its 'collapse'. Without derailing the thread in a history expose, please check 'The Year of Four Emperors' for a starting point in how imperfect the Principate portion of Roman history actually was.

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