Originally posted by Rigel

... and the Moon's a discoïd lamp hangin'in heaven.




[edit on 11-4-2008 by Rigel]

and you're brain is broken.

Stop Posting.

Another sad day and another black eye for ATS. This discussion of an obvious fake has dwindled down where no one will listen to reason, logic or common sense.

Guys, it's o.k. to really want to believe this is true, but it's not real. Get over it. Does your pride hurt so much that your overwhelming desire to believe caused you to fall for such nonsense and now your too ashamed to admit it....or are you so ignorant that you honestly think this stuff is real? If you honestly think this stuff is real....stop looking into Ufology...PLEASE. You and your kind make it IMPOSSIBLE to further the cause, trust me.

And before you fall back on your usual ignorant "debunker" talk, you must realize one thing..and I speak for darn near EVERY "debunker" or "skeptic" on here (I know I do) when I assert that if and when something comes up that we jump on as being false, and the evidence (derived from common sense, reason and logic) points to our own misunderstanding...each and every "debunker" or "skeptic" on here will GLADLY put our pride aside and lean towards the most logical conclusion. In the end, we ALL want this to be true.

So please, your making fools out of yourselves. If you really want to carry on like this I suggest you retire to godlikeproductions or the openmind forums. They seem to ignore reality the same way some of you do.

I have many people on here that I do not see eye to eye with, but I am pleased to see that they are even sitting this one out. It speaks volumes about the content of this thread.

The verifiable facts concerning the logistics and operation of such a mission are beyond debate. Sorry.


[edit on 11-4-2008 by IgnoreTheFacts]

I'm still wondering, and let's suspend our disbelief for a moment, what exactly would the footage look like if it was taken from the inside of the LM while sitting on the surface of the moon, with a millenia old corpse that has been frozen and is probably beginning to defrost. And, if that same footage was sitting in someone's attic or basement for years. And, that person is a senior citizen who has to learn, or get a assistance with transfering the film to digital format to upload to video hosting site that badly compresses the video for size restrictions?

I wonder what it would really look like?

It's fake.

The "effect" used that you see on the camera to make it look as if it was shot in the 60's or early times of video is somthing that can be EASILY put on the clip in Final Cut Pro or any editing software. The silly background sound that sounds like waves of electronics going up and down (hard to describe) would not have been picked up by a camera at that time. They didn't even have a microphone on them, it was added in post.

That, and the fact that the Nasa technician shown on video in the lab outfit is a terrible actor..Even the way he shakes whatever is in his hand looks fake.

Originally posted by JohnnyRaincheck
I wonder what it would really look like?

It would look like old film transfered to video,

The video would have captured the film's inherent flicker, scratches, splices,"hairs in the gate" and emulsion artifacts. Despite the "uploaded" compression and dropped frames.

< Belief Re-suspended >

regards......kk

Some people think FAKE is a four letter word.

[edit on 11-4-2008 by kinda kurious]

If it's true that the vids in question now reside on a "click-driven" website i.e. the site generates revenue based on the number of clicks the videos get, I would suggest this topic be moderated or links removed as I suspect that supporters of what these videos show are doing so for no other reason than to drive traffic to the hosting website in question

/breathe


I still would like to know what date/time these missions launched. Seems some people in this thread with ALL the answers have difficulty answering the most basic questions.